Midrange prosumer camera recommendations?

If one's looking for a selection of available lenses and flexibility for microphones/audio capture - what have folks found valuable that's not too pricey $$$$?  DSLR?  Something like Blackmagic camera?  'Going for cost-effective for advanced-hobby, occasional paid gig use....  Image-quality, dynamic-range considerations, etc.  Thanks in advance!

.. depends very much on the stuff you're recording,...
vDSLR/Blackmagic is nice-to-have (and $$$$), but e.g. don't offer stabilization - which would be for my sports-recording and absolute NoGo! For me, the Pana hc-v757 (US: v750) would be a dream-machine, fullHD in 100/120fps unlimited/constantly (720/240p).
For 'artistry' my latest no-budget investments are an old Sony NEX5 (eBay, 240€) plus an adapter plus many super-cheap old Canon FD glases (Garage-sales, fleamarket) for 15-30€.. = APSC-sensor (like the Canon Rebel Ts) plus incredible shallow-focus (f1.8) etc etc etc,... But I'm doing 'beauty shots' very rarely (in 6 weeks, the yearly "can you record our wedding, pleeeeease?"-event will happen..
Audio? The BMPC is no 'hobby'-device, no audio (not even an option to format SDCards internally!)
Do you really USE (not need) changeable lenses?
What about UHD... about forthcoming Pana FZ1000? 'bridge' only, 28-600mm but: ....
4k for (rumored...) 800$!!!
.. you should narrow your real-life-needs - and, no "a lil' from everything!" isn't narrowing...

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