Miglia TVMini HD vs EyeTV 250

Has anyone used either of these products? I am looking for something with good picture quality and I have digital cable provided by Cox Communications, any pro's and con's of either product?

Hello,
I have the Miglia Mini (not HD) but back when I bought mine it came with Elgato's EyeTV software. The Miglia devices no longer come with the outstanding EyeTV application they come with Miglia's own package, which although I haven't used I suspect is not as well refined. If I were buying again tomorrow I would be going for the EyeTV250. It's feature set plus the features in EyeTV 2.5 (software) make it a very worthy purchase.
Watching/recording TV would take about 40% of a 1.25GHz G4 processor. On a 2.8GHz Intel Core 2 Extreme it takes around 25% of one of the cores to do the same.
The Miglia turned my iMac G4 20" into our main TV something the iMac 24" has taken over from very nicely.
cheers
mrtotes

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I just got the Miglia TVMini, and following the setup assistant, I can't get past
'now please connect the unit to your mac via the usb cable supplied'
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I have installed the EyeTv 2.1 update.
anyone?

I got this from Elgato:
"Thank you for contacting Elgato Systems.
The problem you're having with the TVMini is very unusual.
To begin with, download EyeTV 2.1 again - the software changed in the past few days.
http://www.elgato.com/downloads/eyetv21update.dmg
When connected, does the light appear on the TVMini unit?
Start up the System Profiler for OS X (in the Applications/Utilities). Does the TVMini appear in the USB section?
Save the System Profiler report as XML. Compress and send that file to me.
If you unplug and replug the TVMini to the USB bus, does that help?
Try EyeTV on all of your other USB 2.0 ports, with another USB 2.0 cable, and try it with other USB devices detached. There might be a fault with the USB connection, or some sort of conflict with another device. If you're using a portable, then also try it while plugged into a wall outlet, instead of using battery power. This will ensure that EyeTV is getting enough power over the USB. If you're using a USB hub, make sure that it's self-powered by an AC adaptor.
On the bottom of the TVMini hardware is a serial number. Please let me know what that is.
If you haven't already, try to restart your Mac, to see if that helps.
Using this information, I'll work to find a solution for you."
I tried all the suggestions, but no change. The light on the TVMini unit does not illuminate - though it does get warm after being connected for a while.
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vend_device:
Version: 0.00
Bus Power (mA): 500
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
Product ID: 0x022a
Vendor ID: 0x14aa
I don't have another USB2 cable, but if I plug the unit directly into the usb plug it makes no difference. It's the same on the other usb plug, and the mac is plugged into the mains power supply. Other devices work fine through the usb - though I am unsure whether they are usb1 or usb2.
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ElGato's eyeTV 250?

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Feedback is much appreciated.
Rio.

I use EyeTV 500 all the time and have transferred about 300 tapes. Quality is dependent on the quality of your VHS tape. You can select progressive scan and that gives a bit better improvement over the quality of the original VHS. You can edit them easily enough then export to various formats (avi, mp4, dvd). Make sure you have Toast to burn to DVD and a fast cpu (3ghz). A one hour VHS takes up about 2 gig space.
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Anyone besides me have this issue with the 250 plus?
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With the 250 plus, I have 100% quality but 10%-20% strength with the 720p and then it's jumping percentages of quality on 1080i with the 10-20% strength. Both are way horrible.
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Here is a link to the hardware requirements for the EyeTV 250 Plus. http://www.elgato.com/elgato/na/mainmenu/products/250plus/product3.en.html
There is also some FAQs. http://support.elgato.com/index.php?m=knowledgebase&a=view&parentcategoryid=1&languageid=1&group=englishdefault
I would recommend posting your question on the Elgato forums. http://forums.elgato.com/
If you are unable to obtain a sufficiently detailed response there you can submit a ticket to their tech support. http://www.elgato.com/elgato/na/mainmenu/support/select-support.en.en.html
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MyTV.PVR vs EyeTV 250...Is there a winner?

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I told him that my intention was to transfer VHS tapes onto DVDs and also to record from Cable TV onto DVDs via my MacPro. I wanted to get the best video quality possible and something easy enough to use.
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I can answer. I've transferred about 300 vhs tapes over to DVD, AVI, MP4, etc.
Quality is dependent upon the quality of the VHS. I have VHS tapes that were created directly from digital video camcorder (medical procedures, surgery training) and the DVD quality is as good as any high quality commercial DVD. I have BetaMax tapes from the 70's and they burn to DVD from EyeTV as good if not better then their original quality. With EyeTV you have several quality options and can select Progressive Scan (which doubles the number of video lines for higher quality. You'll need at least 4Gigs of space for each VHS tape but once burned to DVD you can delete and move to the next.
Toast is the most superior EyeTV is built with Toast in mind. Simply drag an AVI or directly select Toast from EyeTV of any resulting VHS/Digital file that you capture and it will burn a fine DVD with Chapters, Titles, and more.
What I like most about EyeTV is the editing capabilities. You can cut out all the crap, re-edit the movie if you want to improve it (in case you are a budding movie editor yourself) and burn it to DVD.
As for easy - yes, it's pretty straight forward. If you have a two hour VHS movie, say a commercial release of an older James Bond (which is non-Macro, i.e., encrypted) movie it will take two hours to record it. Once recorded you can then edit the items you don't want (warnings, junk...) save the edited file (very quickly) then click on the EyeTV Toast icon and burn it to DVD. If using Progressive Scan you'll get a very high quality DVD. How much time required to burn the DVD depends. If you are using a 3Ghz Mac Pro with 8 Gigs of RAM (my system) it takes about 20-30 minutes.
If you have commercial VHS tapes that are encrypted (MacroVision is used) you'll need to obtain what some sellers call "an enhancer". This is small machine (size of two packs of cigarettes) that sits connected via RCA cables or via SVideo and reconnects out the opposite side to EyeTV, then your video is automatically decrypted.
The resulting DVD quality is "enhanced" and you get a fine quality DVD.
If you are copying over films or TV shows that you have recorded on VHS tapes then the quality is about as good as SVCD, depending on how well your antenna receives the signal. You'll have to cut out the commercials (easy to do with EyeTV) and the resulting DVD quality is as good if not a little better then the original VHS recording.
I did all of the above for about six months and finally realized I could copy a VHS tape via EyeTV and export it to high quality DiVX or AVI format which resulted in an average size of about 700megs. These media files play beautifully on a Mac using the DiVX player or RealMedia Player, QuickTime Pro, VLC and many more media players.
The nice part of the latter is that you can get four or five full high quality movies on a blank DVD. Thus, rather than four or five DVDs you get one DVD with for or five movies.
I hope this explains it all to you. Try buying a used EyeTV 200 off of eBay which is just as good as the EyeTV 250 and 500. They all use the latest EyeTV software and unless you have movies in High Density on VHS (which you won't) you don't need EyeTV 500 (that's what I have) but it does a fine job. Another Mac user that taught me much was a guy who bought a used EyeTV 200 on eBay for just $50. We exchanged DVDs we made from each system and they were both of excellent quality.
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The current version of EyeTV software is 3.3. Make sure you are on it.
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Right Click on the recording you want. Click Export in the Pop Up menu. In the Format box, Choose "For iMovie 09"
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I have my Nintendo Wii connected to my Mac Pro, via the EyeTV 250. Due to the EyeTV's current limits, it is impossible to simultaneously record and play gameplay footage without a considerable amount of lag, using just the EyeTV software. The EyeTV FAQ suggests using a 3rd party program to get around this problem....
Another option is to use 3rd party software to capture what's happening on your display - you can isolate the EyeTV video window and record, while you're using EyeTV to play.
I am still fairly new to the world of digital video and editing (first year film student), and I am having trouble figuring this one out. How do I get this working? Any help would be appreciated!
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I don't think there's any way to make FCP do this if that's what you're asking. You need some screen capture software.
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http://www.eskimo.com/~pristine/screen.html
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Have had the same problems. At home with either the bundled aerial or old tv aerial via a v.old signal booster i get most of the channels bar the major terrestrials. Only BBC4 and Men & Motors.
At work (At the top of a hill) Same again though the tuner does find BBC's 1 and 2. and News 24. (Won't display them though)
That's with 100% Signal and Quality.
Did you notice how the signal readout gives exactly the same readings every time you tune? Looks like a lack of signal from BBC and ITV. Going out to buy amplified aerial.
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Okay Guys, I need a lot of help.
I am new to mac and I love it. I used to use Pinnacle Studio 10. I have a lot of old camcorder tapes which through the use of a tape adapter I am able to play camcorder tapes in the VCR. Then connect the VCR to elgato eye tv. I use the eye tv VHS assistant and play my movie into elgato.
I want to encode these movies and ultimatly put them on DVD.
So after I did the import I tried to drag the file into IMOVIE.
I got this message..
The file could not be imported: The file “MacBook/Volumes/backup drive/EyeTV Archive/My VHS Tape - 9/10/06 9_21 PM.eyetv” can’t be imported; QuickTime couldn’t parse it: -43
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I've used my Miglia TVMini througha USB2.0 PCMCIA card but it had to have the PSU connected to the card.
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