Migrating Devloper 2000 Forms to 9i or 10G?

I hope the Devloper community can assist me with these two questions:
(1) When is Oracle scheduled to roll out the Devloper Suite 10G that coincides with their 10G Database?
(2) I need to migrate my old Oracle Forms 5.0 (Developer 2000)to a more current release. Should I go to Developer9i or wait for 10G? Also someone mentioned to me that due to the old architecture of Developer 2000 that I need to convert them to Forms6i before migrating to 9i. Is this true? Is there a kit or procedures by Oracle to complete this migration?
Many Thanks,
T.J.

TJ,
1. Developer Suite 10g should be out right now
2. Upgrade to Forms 10g
For the migration, indeed, the recommnded way is to migrate following the path of all releases between. The major architectural change however happened between Forms 4.5 and Forms 5.0.
The benefit of migrating to Forms 6i first is that you still have a client-server environment to test your application before moving it to the Web (and this is where most of the changes are required).
In fact the migration from Forms 6i (on the Web) - once there - to Forms 10g isn't a big one.
There are some obsolteted features in Forms9i/10g compared to Forms 6i, but theese can be captured using the Forms Migration Assistant that comes with Forms 9i and Forms 10g. Not sure if the Forms Migration Assistant GUI is shipped with Forms 10g - haven't tested - but it can be downloaded here from OTN.
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