Migrating Jobs from 4.0 to 4.2 using .atl?

Hi Experts
We recently migrated most of our BODS application from v4.0 to v4.2.
We used Repository manager to upgrade our repositories.
We still have one machine which is running BODS 4.0.
My question is that is it possible to migrate jobs from v4.0 to v4.2 without using repository manager i.e exporting these jobs as .atl or xml file and then importing them into BODS 4.2 enviornment.
Please let me know your views.
Thank you.

Hi Ankit,
Possible? yes.
Suggested? No.
Try to follow the best practice in order to avoid issues, because if you have a problem during the migration and you call SAP support, they will tell you to follow the standar steps, not the short cut ways.

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quote:
Should we read anything into Adobe putting out the Freehand
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