Min 2012 2.7 retina pro or early 2013 2.7 retina pro?

If given the opportunity would you rather get the refurb mid 2012. 2.7 with 8mg l6 mackbook pro retina or pick up a new early 2013 MacBook Pro retina with 2.7 if they were the same price?
I ask because the geek bench scores for the mid 2012 are a little higher than the 2013 model. But then it's also refurb vs new,
Thanks

Thanks mende1,
I think i'm going to go with the Newer 2013 Macbook Pro. After looking at the differences in geekbench, it seems the new one outperformed the mid 2012 version in everything except CPU and that i'm guessing is because of the extra 2MB cache.
Also a few independent test i ran all did better on the newer one.
internal HD - read/write about 20-30mb/s faster than mid 2012 (436/456 vs 405/427)
Thunderbolt - Performance was about 10MB/s faster than mid 2012 (there may have been something wrong with the thunderbolt port independently)
CPU Temp - same up time/same programs running/ 1hr of same video playing - 2013 was running cooler by about 10-15*C
GPU Temp - same as CPU test - 2013 running cooler but only by 3*C
Fan speed - surpirsing was also actually lower on the 2013 (2100/2000 vs 2300/2100)
Battery life (nothing to really do with model) - but 2013 ran 45min longer from 100% charge it only has 6 cycles on it so far so should get better (vs. 14 on mid 2012)
I decided on the 2013 cause a, brand new, the other would've been a second time repaired refurbished machine. As fas as i can tell a flawless Samsung display, and better battery life consumption with the newer CPU. The battery on the mid 2012 was actually reading at 8860mAh where as this is only reading at 8670mAh not too much difference, but the drain from the i7-3820QM is causing a loss of about 40-45min battery life compaired to the i7-3720QM along with apparently i'm sure a few internal changes that may be playing a part.
in the end. I think for MY needs more as a hobbist photographer/3D Autocad user and mainly medical oriented computer use the early 2013 offers just a tad more of what i need the machine for and so will stick with this lucky deal.

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  • MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2013) Flash Storage Failure

    So I've been getting Kernel panics for the past few weeks on and off. So I ran the Apple Diagnostics and right off the bat told me my hard drive was failing. I'm going in tomorrow to the Genius Bar. I have Apple Care and Time Machine.
    My question is how are they going to replace the Flash Storage? I can't find anything online about one failing let alone being able to replace/upgrade one.
    Thanks for the help!
    Nate

    You need to replace the flash storage. Note that the MacBook Pro with Retina display comes with flash storage because a SSD doesn't fit on it.
    I recommend you to get an external drive and store the files there instead of replacing the flash storage, which is expensive and will void warranty

  • Macbook Pro Retina, 13-Inch, Early 2013 Hard Frezze

    Hello,
    I´m having trouble with my Macbook, It has happened 3 times on 2 days, the Mac just frezzes when changing desktop, i was running Excel, Outlook, Power Point and Safari at the same time all the time (in the 3 hard frezze) i had to restart the mac and lost information in the way (not to much).
    Graphic Card: Intel HD 4000
    Software: OS X 10.9.3
    APPLE SSD SM256E
    Please advice if I have to some repair
    Thanks
    Best Regards

    These instructions must be carried out as an administrator. If you have only one user account, you are the administrator.
    This procedure is a diagnostic test. It makes no changes to your data.
    Please triple-click anywhere in the line below on this page to select it:
    syslog -k Sender kernel -k Message CSeq 'n Cause: -' | tail | awk '/:/{$4=""; print}' | pbcopy
    Copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C.
    Launch the built-in Terminal application in any of the following ways:
    ☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)
    ☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.
    ☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Terminal in the icon grid.
    Paste into the Terminal window by pressing the key combination command-V. I've tested these instructions only with the Safari web browser. If you use another browser, you may have to press the return key after pasting.
    Wait for a new line ending in a dollar sign ($) to appear below what you entered.
    The output of the command will be automatically copied to the Clipboard. If the command produced no output, the Clipboard will be empty. Paste into a reply to this message.
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  • MacBook Pro 13" (Late 2013) or Refurb Pro 15" (Early 2013)

    Hello guys/girls,
    I'm currently studying applied informatics and I need a new laptop for the daily university life.
    I came to buy a macbook because of various reasons (Battery life, speed, durability, ..) but I'm still not sure which one I should buy.
    I decided to buy a new 13" MacBook Pro Retina with 16GB of RAM, 2.4GHz i5 CPU and a 256GB Flash-Storage but the local refurbished store (Germany) has been updated and a 15" MacBook Pro Retina with 2.4GHz i7 QuadCore CPU, 8GB of RAM and 256GB Flash-Storage has been added. Now I don't know what to buy. Either spent ~100€ more for the 15" refurb. Version or buy the new 13" MBPr.
    I'll need to run atleat one IDE for Java, Visual Studio (so I need to start a Windows VM) and maybe more later.
    Pros of the 13":
    + Smaller and easier to carry around
    + Better battery life
    + Faster SSD
    + New SSD (? I'm not sure if the one in the refurbed is changed to a new one, since all SSDs have limited write sequences)
    + A bit cheaper
    + More RAM (16GB)
    Pros of the 15" Refurb:
    + Faster when it comes to CPU (i7 QuadCore)
    + Faster when it comes to GPU (GT650M)
    + Bigger Display
    + Maybe longer usable (Should be atleast 4-6 years!!)
    What would you suggest me?

      Reset PRAM.   http://support.apple.com/kb/PH18761
    Reset SMC.     http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964
    Choose the method for:
    "Resetting SMC on portables with a battery you should not remove on your own".
      Start up in Safe Mode.  http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT1564
    Best.

  • Macbook pro 15" early 2013 problems

    Hey guys!
    I'm facing a number of issues with the 2013 MBP 15" that I have, first it was a Wi-Fi Issue, it got fixed after a year. (Thanks apple), Then now since the past 1 year, the computer when I'm using it suddenly freezes and I have to do a hard reboot, and one more issue is that when I try to wake the mac from sleep it just shows nothing and I have to hard reboot it again..After rebooting it'll show me there was a graphics issue and I can report it, I reported it almost a 100 times now. Now I'm really angry, I spent almost 9,000 Dirhams($2450) on this piece of ****. I had an HP which was way better than this, I used it for 5 years without any problems and I bought it for less than $500! So PLEASE APPLE, FIX YOUR ****.

    Here is the crash report!
    Anonymous UUID:       4D663A25-7BF8-BA6C-23C4-9E36A8FFE515
    Sat Mar 28 15:56:07 2015
    *** Panic Report ***
    panic(cpu 4 caller 0xffffff7fb2eb4f63): "GPU Panic: [<None>] 3 3 5f 1d 0 8 0 3 : NVRM[0/1:0:0]: Read Error 0x00400700: CFG 0x0fd510de 0x00100406 0xc0000000, BAR0 0x104000000 0xffffff8141a83000 0x0e7150a2, D0, P3/4\n"@/SourceCache/AppleGraphicsControl/AppleGraphicsControl-3.8.6/src/AppleM uxControl/kext/GPUPanic.cpp:127
    Backtrace (CPU 4), Frame : Return Address
    0xffffff813e8627e0 : 0xffffff803032fe41
    0xffffff813e862860 : 0xffffff7fb2eb4f63
    0xffffff813e862940 : 0xffffff7fb0e99dd8
    0xffffff813e862a00 : 0xffffff7fb11a2e74
    0xffffff813e862a40 : 0xffffff7fb0f652b0
    0xffffff813e862a90 : 0xffffff7fb0f6424a
    0xffffff813e862ad0 : 0xffffff7fb11883d1
    0xffffff813e862b40 : 0xffffff7fb114ffe2
    0xffffff813e862bd0 : 0xffffff7fb114fdec
    0xffffff813e862c40 : 0xffffff7fb114f827
    0xffffff813e862cd0 : 0xffffff7fb1184730
    0xffffff813e862da0 : 0xffffff7fb1184b57
    0xffffff813e862e10 : 0xffffff7fb0fd8791
    0xffffff813e862e70 : 0xffffff7fb0fd80fd
    0xffffff813e862fc0 : 0xffffff7fb0fd7801
    0xffffff813e8630d0 : 0xffffff7fb116a85c
    0xffffff813e863130 : 0xffffff7fb1164f49
    0xffffff813e8631f0 : 0xffffff7fb11652d3
    0xffffff813e863270 : 0xffffff7fb11655a6
    0xffffff813e8632c0 : 0xffffff7fb119b727
    0xffffff813e863330 : 0xffffff7fb0f86e61
    0xffffff813e863350 : 0xffffff7fb0ea0891
    0xffffff813e863400 : 0xffffff7fb0e9e39c
    0xffffff813e863600 : 0xffffff7fb0e9fb30
    0xffffff813e8636d0 : 0xffffff7fb103f9f3
    0xffffff813e863710 : 0xffffff7fb1033632
    0xffffff813e863740 : 0xffffff7fb10334be
    0xffffff813e8637a0 : 0xffffff7fb1035780
    0xffffff813e863970 : 0xffffff7fb0e4b83b
    0xffffff813e863a00 : 0xffffff7fb0e35987
    0xffffff813e863b30 : 0xffffff7fb0e3498b
    0xffffff813e863ba0 : 0xffffff7fb0e4c8d4
    0xffffff813e863be0 : 0xffffff7fb0dfe7ce
    0xffffff813e863c70 : 0xffffff7fb0df6512
    0xffffff813e863cb0 : 0xffffff7fb0e4d214
    0xffffff813e863d00 : 0xffffff80308b6371
    0xffffff813e863d50 : 0xffffff80308fda75
    0xffffff813e863dc0 : 0xffffff80303e4f5e
    0xffffff813e863e10 : 0xffffff8030333f8c
    0xffffff813e863e40 : 0xffffff8030318a93
    0xffffff813e863e90 : 0xffffff80303293bd
    0xffffff813e863f10 : 0xffffff80304059fa
    0xffffff813e863fb0 : 0xffffff8030436ea6
          Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
             com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.4.1)[E5A48E71-70F5-3B01-81D3-C2B037BBE80A]@0xff ffff7fb0e33000->0xffffff7fb0e42fff
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.4.1)[619F6C9F-0461-3BA1-A75F-53BB0F87ACD3]@0 xffffff7fb0dec000
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[56AD16B5-4F29-3F74-93E7-D492B3966DE2]@0xffffff 7fb0b24000
             com.apple.driver.AppleMuxControl(3.8.6)[BE610379-FAEA-3E8F-B6AF-F92B70B3C5CD]@0 xffffff7fb2ea6000->0xffffff7fb2eb9fff
                dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsControl(3.8.6)[76B001B1-30F1-3D72-B264-85D77B254C 2F]@0xffffff7fb2e9e000
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily(1.4)[70E2B65E-A91A-3522-A1A0-79FD63EABB4C]@0xfffff f7fb17f9000
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[56AD16B5-4F29-3F74-93E7-D492B3966DE2]@0xffffff 7fb0b24000
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.4.1)[619F6C9F-0461-3BA1-A75F-53BB0F87ACD3]@0 xffffff7fb0dec000
                dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleBacklightExpert(1.1.0)[42706EB3-1447-3931-A668-FBAC58AAAA 7A]@0xffffff7fb2ea1000
             com.apple.nvidia.driver.NVDAResman(10.0.2)[EFB702DE-5458-35DF-84DA-E0FFC4DCA500 ]@0xffffff7fb0e49000->0xffffff7fb10befff
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[56AD16B5-4F29-3F74-93E7-D492B3966DE2]@0xffffff 7fb0b24000
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.4.1)[E5A48E71-70F5-3B01-81D3-C2B037BBE80A]@0xff ffff7fb0e33000
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.4.1)[619F6C9F-0461-3BA1-A75F-53BB0F87ACD3]@0 xffffff7fb0dec000
                dependency: com.apple.AppleGraphicsDeviceControl(3.8.6)[957EB27F-7D07-3C40-91F5-9B54652F06E E]@0xffffff7fb0e43000
             com.apple.nvidia.driver.NVDAGK100Hal(10.0.2)[DC43029D-568A-3B7C-976B-E922C17F51 43]@0xffffff7fb10ca000->0xffffff7fb1277fff
                dependency: com.apple.nvidia.driver.NVDAResman(10.0.2)[EFB702DE-5458-35DF-84DA-E0FFC4DCA500 ]@0xffffff7fb0e49000
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[56AD16B5-4F29-3F74-93E7-D492B3966DE2]@0xffffff 7fb0b24000
    BSD process name corresponding to current thread: WindowServer
    Mac OS version:
    14C109
    Kernel version:
    Darwin Kernel Version 14.1.0: Mon Dec 22 23:10:38 PST 2014; root:xnu-2782.10.72~2/RELEASE_X86_64
    Kernel UUID: DCF5C2D5-16AE-37F5-B2BE-ED127048DFF5
    Kernel slide:     0x0000000030000000
    Kernel text base: 0xffffff8030200000
    __HIB  text base: 0xffffff8030100000
    System model name: MacBookPro10,1 (Mac-C3EC7CD22292981F)
    System uptime in nanoseconds: 39132425316
    last loaded kext at 23118989869: com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC 1.70 (addr 0xffffff7fb2724000, size 32768)
    loaded kexts:
    com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC 1.70
    com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsDevicePolicy 3.7.7
    com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9.5d0
    com.apple.driver.AGPM 100.15.5
    com.apple.driver.ApplePlatformEnabler 2.1.7d1
    com.apple.driver.X86PlatformShim 1.0.0
    com.apple.filesystems.autofs 3.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 4.3.2f6
    com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 124
    com.apple.driver.AppleOSXWatchdog 1
    com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 269.25
    com.apple.driver.AppleHDAHardwareConfigDriver 269.25
    com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 3.6.1
    com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 269.25
    com.apple.GeForce 10.0.2
    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHD4000Graphics 10.0.2
    com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet 1.0.1
    com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 1.0.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothUSBDFU 4.3.2f6
    com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.7.3
    com.apple.driver.AppleMuxControl 3.8.6
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMCPDRC 1.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelFramebufferCapri 10.0.2
    com.apple.nvidia.NVDAStartup 10.0.2
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMCLMU 2.0.7d0
    com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight 170.5.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleMCCSControl 1.2.11
    com.apple.iokit.BroadcomBluetoothHostControllerUSBTransport 4.3.2f6
    com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 7.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleHWAccess 1
    com.apple.driver.AppleHV 1
    com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltIP 2.0.2
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCButtons 240.2
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyEventDriver 240.2
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 240.2
    com.apple.driver.CoreStorageFsck 471.10.6
    com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver 3.0.1
    com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless 1.0.0d1
    com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib 1.0.0d1
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    com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 2.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.8
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 2.1
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    com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.7
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    com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 161
    com.apple.security.quarantine 3
    com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 8
    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 218.0.0
    com.apple.kext.triggers 1.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 11
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    com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.15
    com.apple.nvidia.driver.NVDAGK100Hal 10.0.2
    com.apple.nvidia.driver.NVDAResman 10.0.2
    com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginLegacy 1.0.0
    com.apple.driver.X86PlatformPlugin 1.0.0
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    com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 705.4.0
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    Model: MacBookPro10,1, BootROM MBP101.00EE.B03, 4 processors, Intel Core i7, 2.4 GHz, 8 GB, SMC 2.3f36
    Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 4000, Intel HD Graphics 4000, Built-In
    Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M, NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M, PCIe, 1024 MB
    Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 4 GB, DDR3, 1600 MHz, 0x80AD, 0x484D54333531533642465238432D50422020
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    AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0xEF), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (7.15.159.13.12)
    Bluetooth: Version 4.3.2f6 15235, 3 services, 19 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
    Serial ATA Device: APPLE SSD SD256E, 251 GB
    USB Device: Hub
    USB Device: Cruzer U
    USB Device: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
    USB Device: Hub
    USB Device: Hub
    USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
    USB Device: BRCM20702 Hub
    USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller
    Thunderbolt Bus: MacBook Pro, Apple Inc., 23.4

  • TS5296 Is there a corresponding fix for the early 2013 model MBP retina?

    This update refused to install, and since my mac's keyboard stops responding quite often, it's becoming a serious problem... getting to the point where the machine is essentially unusuable.
    It's now basically an expensive paperweight, because a machine that you have to either nap or reboot every 20 minutes, especially one still under waranty, is simply unacceptible.
    Talk about buyer's remorse... this has been by far the worst machine I've ever had in over 20 years.

    This cropped up on my wife's late 2009 model 27" iMac, too.  Random freezes were encountered, unable to identify cause for months, then one day it started to become unable to complete a normal boot.  Tech Tool Deluxe was the only direct indication as far as diagnostics are concerned.  I've NEVER been abvle to get Apple's hardware diagnostic to run from the cloud, and we fianlly got it on a Techs' bench, AHT showed nothing wrong.  As you said, Safe boot is the only way to get into the system, and performance under 10.8.5 is glacial.
    Now the kicker - we DID have AppleCare, and this phase of the MXM graphics demise hit within 4 or 5 months of AppleCare expiration.  There's no longer a flat-rate repair option, Apple doesn't have any stock of the video board to sell as a replacement part (was $169, or $179 w/no exchange) and even refurbs of this paltry (512MB VRAM) board can hit $300.  I know Mac users have become 2nd-class citizens in Apple's business universe, but we're now looking at sub-42 month lifespans for hardware?  At $2k for a machine that lacks touchscreen option, that's out of line.

  • Memory leakage Macbook pro retina 15inch Early 2013

    Hi,
    This is my first posting to the Apple community, so please forgive me if have missed a previous posting on this subject.
    I have an early 2013 15 inch MBPro retina running 8 gigs.  My previous device was a MBpro 15 early 2008 4 gigs of ram.  I never expected the 2013 with double the ram to be constantly dropping below 2 gigs with only FireFox and/or MS word running.   The older 2008 device used only 2 gigs to run these programs.  It appears that the 2013 model is using 6 gigs.
    I took the 2013 15 inch  MBpro retina to the Apple store for the Geniuses to run their diagnostics.  They said my device was running normally.  To prove such, they simultaneously opened Jim Carrey's web site 8 times and showed me that all of his the crazy stuff was working in each window.  They said that it is normal for a SSD machine to run on low memory.
    Unfortunately, it has been my experience that when my memory drops when just using my normal Firefox based surfing,  my track pad scrolling starts to get very sluggish until my "memory clean" kicks in at 1.6 gigs and brings the memory up to around  2.5 gigs.  As I continue to surf, then the process repeats itself.  I never expected my old 2008 device to use significantly less ram running light applications better than my new 2013 device. 
    I have seen others post an "EtreCheck" and hopefully by posting mine, somebody can find what the Apple Geniuses could not.
    Thank you for your help!!
    EtreCheck version: 2.0.11 (98)
    Report generated November 18, 2014 at 7:09:33 PM EST
    Hardware Information: ℹ️
        MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Early 2013) (Verified)
        MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro10,1
        1 2.4 GHz Intel Core i7 CPU: 4-core
        8 GB RAM Not upgradeable
            BANK 0/DIMM0
                4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
            BANK 1/DIMM0
                4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
        Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported
        Wireless:  en0: 802.11 a/b/g/n
    Video Information: ℹ️
        Intel HD Graphics 4000 -
            Color LCD spdisplays_2880x1800Retina
        NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M - VRAM: 1024 MB
    System Software: ℹ️
        OS X 10.10.1 (14B25) - Uptime: 20:14:22
    Disk Information: ℹ️
        APPLE SSD SD256E disk0 : (251 GB)
        S.M.A.R.T. Status: Verified
            EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB
            Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB
            Macintosh HD (disk1) /  [Startup]: 249.77 GB (174.31 GB free)
                Core Storage: disk0s2 250.14 GB Online
    USB Information: ℹ️
        Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
        Logitech USB Receiver
        SanDisk Ultra 16.01 GB
            S.M.A.R.T. Status: Verified
            NO NAME (disk2s1) /Volumes/NO NAME : 16.01 GB (8.86 GB free)
        Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub
            Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
        Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
    Thunderbolt Information: ℹ️
        Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus
    Gatekeeper: ℹ️
        Mac App Store and identified developers
    Kernel Extensions: ℹ️
            /Library/Extensions
        [loaded]    com.Logitech.Control Center.HID Driver (3.9.1 - SDK 10.8) Support
            /System/Library/Extensions
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