Minimized Image Recovery, NEW Pavilion, Does this make sense?

Hi folks,
I purchase a new HP Pavilion dv7-1678US that I am waiting to be delivered. I've been reading the manuals. My intentions are to uninstall ALL trial programs, games etc. However after reading recovery methods I am thinking of Recovering the computer using the Minimized Recovery option which would not install the trial programs. Here is what I've been thinking and please let me know, if you do, if this is acceptable.
1) Boot the computer to the BIOS recovery section(nothing within win7).
2) Make a USB Flash drive recovery media.
3) Reboot the computer to the BIOS recovery area and select Restore, using the USB Flash drive.
4) Then select the recovery option of Minimized Recovery.
5) Then boot to win7 for the first time. Thus all bloatware would not be present.
What do you think?
Thanks for reading.

Hey bomber22,
Yes, what you describe should work exactly as intended. In my humble opinion, this would be the next best thing to installing a retail version of Windows with the added benefit of having all the necessary drivers installed.
I am an HP employee.
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Originally Posted by gathagan
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Originally Posted by gathagan
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Originally Posted by gathagan
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Originally Posted by gathagan
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Originally Posted by gathagan
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Originally Posted by gathagan
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Originally Posted by gathagan
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Originally Posted by gathagan
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