MIRO/ Subsequent Debit problem

I have the following scenario.
A purchase is made for a material for which the taxes include Excise Duties , VAT/CST. Now when we return this item physically , we reverse all taxes , n this is done via sales.
But when we make a subsequent credit , that is debit to vendor , due to quality reasons ( not involving any physical returns) , we reverse the VAT/CST , but NOT Excise.
In MIRO, when i make a subsequent debit to ve ndor ,how can i make a provision such that only VAT?CST is reversed n not Excise ?
Thanks in advance ,
Regards
Anis

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MIRO Subsequent Debit

HI,
Below is the situation of what happened
1) Limit PO created for 1000 GBP
2) GR Posted for 600 GBP
3) Invoice posted for 600 GBP
4) Subsequent credit posted for 200 GBP
again..one more
5) Subsequent credit posted for 200 GBP
Now I am trying to post
6) Subsequent Debit for 200 GBP and system is not allowing to post
Getting below error
Tolerance limit of only 25 GBP will be allowed
7) If i am going to post Subsequent debit for 400 GBP there is no error
Wanted know Concept behind this
Thx,
jai

Resolved the issue, Thanks..
Subsequent debit posted for full 400 GBP due to tolerance limit
Then after Subsequent Credit posted for the 200 GBP
Regards,
Jairaj

Import PO subsequent Debit: Taxes not calculated as per tax Code in MIRO

Dear All,
I am facing the problem while taking Subsequent debit (MIRO) of Import PO. I am using service Tax code 10.30 % .
When I entered the amount 4000 INR. It calculated the taxes 348.18 which is not correct.
I also check condition in FV13 its properly maintained.
Thanks in Advance
Regards
Pawan Sarda

Hello
Thanks for ur Reply.
MIRO -- Subsequent Debit -
>Tax code - S3 ( 10.30 % Services Tax) -
>PO NO. -
> change Vendor ( Import Vendor to Domestic Vendor) -
> Amount 4000 INR -
> also change Tax Code of Line Item   -
>Simulate
Vendor A\c -
>   4,348.18 INR Cr
Stock A\c -
> 4,000.00 INR Dr
Service Tax -
>     338.04 INR Dr
ECS             -
>         6.76 INR Dr
HECS          -
>       3.38 INR Dr
Above process I m doing against Import PO but I m not identify why its calculated Wrong Service Tax or calculating on which base amount ?
Actual Entry
Vendor A\c -
> 4,412.00 INR Cr
Stock A\c -
> 4,000.00 INR Dr
Service Tax -
>    400.00 INR Dr
ECS             -
>        8.00 INR Dr
HECS          -
>      4.00 INR Dr
Edited by: pawansarda on Jan 21, 2012 11:41 AM

Subsequent debit tax calculating wrong

dear guru
while doing subsequent debit for the vendor the Excise duty is calculating wrong
my issue is like this
i have purchase 100 quty with value 10/kg total amount is 1000 for that
ED is calculated 140
Ecess calculated 3
S&H calculated 1
i have done goods receipt and posted invoice also
now i that part of the quantit i have returne
lets 50 kg i have retune for that MIRO,MIGO,JIS,J1iV i have done
next vendor will send the suplimentry invocie because the rate is increase for that 50 quantiy, for that i will do J1IH for the additional excise and i will do MIRO subsequent debit for the rate increse in miro the tax amount is calculating wrong, ie
lets for 50 quantity total amoun increased 100
ed should calculate 14 but it is calculating 28
for that i have to apply any note
pl tell me urgent
thanks
regards
jrp

My understanding about the Input Tax and Output Tax was wrong. In the issue reported
Input Tax Calculation should be:
Vendor A/C.............. Cr 30000-
Expense A/C............ Dr 29100
Input Tax A/C............ Dr 900 (@3% on 30000)---my understanding was wrong.
Input Tax 3% should be charged on Expense amount, in this case Rs 30000. But because in the editing option calculate tax on net amount option was not selected, hence SAP was giving the below entry, which is correct as well.
Vendor A/C.............. Cr 30000-
Expense A/C............ Dr 29126.21
Input Tax A/C............ Dr 873.79 (@3% on 29126.21) which is correct.
Hence, the Vendor amount should be Expense + Input Tax= 30000 * 3%=900 + 30000 (expense) = 30900.
Correct Entry should be:
Vendor A/C...............Cr 30900
Expense A/C............Dr 30000
Input Tax A/C............Dr 900
Resolved. Pankaj has given the correct answer.

Blanket PO - Subsequent debit

Hi,
    I see a scenario where a blanket purchase order is created , but without the item category 'B'. The value is limited by the quantity entered in the PO and by releasing it. The invoices are posted against the PO, with the amounts in the invoices from the vendor. And Goods Receipt also posted for that amount.
Once a subsequent debit is posted for the credit note received. Is there a necessity to post a GR in this case(possible with a negative value?). And if so, what could be the movement type.
Thanks
Aparna

Hello
Thanks for ur Reply.
MIRO -- Subsequent Debit -
>Tax code - S3 ( 10.30 % Services Tax) -
>PO NO. -
> change Vendor ( Import Vendor to Domestic Vendor) -
> Amount 4000 INR -
> also change Tax Code of Line Item   -
>Simulate
Vendor A\c -
>   4,348.18 INR Cr
Stock A\c -
> 4,000.00 INR Dr
Service Tax -
>     338.04 INR Dr
ECS             -
>         6.76 INR Dr
HECS          -
>       3.38 INR Dr
Above process I m doing against Import PO but I m not identify why its calculated Wrong Service Tax or calculating on which base amount ?
Actual Entry
Vendor A\c -
> 4,412.00 INR Cr
Stock A\c -
> 4,000.00 INR Dr
Service Tax -
>    400.00 INR Dr
ECS             -
>        8.00 INR Dr
HECS          -
>      4.00 INR Dr
Edited by: pawansarda on Jan 21, 2012 11:41 AM

Triggering REKL message with subsequent debit or credit

Is it possible to trigger REKL message with subsequent debit or credit in MIRO.

we can trigger the REKL message type for MIRO subsequent debit/credit. Assign the form in M806.

SUBSEQUENT DEBIT IN MIRO

Dear All ,
kindly help me out in this issue as i have done the I,V for a P.O but IV is still tobe done for freight as Rs2000/- is to be paid through MIRO, But in invoice The actual freight is Rs 4000/- Kindly guide me that how i can pay the rest 2000/-as subsequent debit i have never done this before pl help me out , i " be very thankfull to all .
point will be awarded immed.
thanks in adv
sap11

Hi
To post a subsequent debit/credit, proceed as follows:
1.Fill out the initial screen. In the section Select, specify the purchase order to which the subsequent debit/credit refers. Enter the indicator for the type of subsequent debit/credit in question in the Subsequent debit/credit field. To proceed to the vendor screen, press ENTER.
2.Fill out the vendor screen. Press ENTER to display the selection screen. The order items are listed. The Quantity column contains the previously invoiced quantity; the Value column is empty.. All the items are selected.
3.For those items to which the subsequent debit/credit applies, enter the amount and, if necessary, correct the quantity. Select the items that are affected by the subsequent debit/credit.
4.After you have chosen Goto ® Document overview, the system checks whether price variances are caused by the subsequent debit/credit. If this is the case, you automatically proceed to each individual item screen where there is a price variance. By pressing ENTER, you proceed from one item screen to the next and from the last screen to the document overview.
5.Choose Document ® Post to post the document, provided the balance equals zero.

Subsequent debit in miro - Number of items in document is too large

Dear Experts
When i am doing subsequent debit in miro I am getting the eror "Number of items in document is too large" I have alreday posted invoice now i am doing subsequent debit .
Please do the need full
Regards
San

Hi,
check this blog:
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Restriction of Maximum 999 FI Document Items During MM transactions
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Posting Subsequent Debit via EDI(MIRO)

Hello All,
Any idea how to post the subsequent debit or credit via EDI using transaction code MIRO. We were able to post invoice/credit memo through EDI but not subsequent debit/credit.
Advance thanks for the reply.
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MP

Hi
Posting of subsequent debit and subsequent credit is not possible using EDI for invoice verification.
When you transmit invoice information via EDI, you
Cannot create subsequent debits
Cannot settle planned delivery costs
Cannot post with varying purchase order units of measure
Cannot post invoices for blocked purchase order items
Please check the link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60/helpdata/en/44/f50abcea3b11d194dc0000e83dd751/frameset.htm
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Kishore

Revaluation run (MRNB) v/s Subsequent Debit / Credit (MIRO)

Hello Experts
We are working on ECC 6.0.
I'am aware how to use MRNB & posting subsequent debit / credit note through MIRO.
I want to know when to use MRNB in comparison to Subsequent Debit / Credit?
Suppose vendor has suppiled certain goods at Rs 100 per unit. Invoice have already been posted against the GRs. Now the vendor asks for additional Rs. 2 per unit.
In such a scenario should MRNB or Subsequent credit is to be posted?
I've noticed that when MRNB is used material MAP remains unaffected unlike posting a Subsequent Credit / Debit. Why it remains unaffected during MRNB run? If the material price is changed then its impact should also come on inventory which doesnt happen in MRNB.
For both the cases is excise claiming to be adjusted through J1IH manually ?
Regards
Kapil

Hello,
Subsequent Debit and Credits
After an Invoice is successfully posted and the transaction is completed, Vendor approaches with additional amount invoice or correction in Invoice.You would like to post this additional invoice with reference to the original PO and item. Subsequent Debit / Credit functionality allows you to capture this difference without canceling original invoice.
Please check this link
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_03/helpdata/EN/a8/b99890452b11d189430000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
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Shailesh

MIRO subsequent Credit / Debit.

Hi Gurus,
Can someone tell me how and when we use subsequent debit/credit when we r dng a MIRO. Also through some light if i get an invoice which has freight charges not included in PO but to be paid to a freight vendor. I have deal with the freight vendor so he sends me an invoice for a whole period at once. now can i post these costs to the different PO' related goods he delivered to me???
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Problem in subsequent debit

Hi All,
I have set tolerance limit of 10 with tolerance key PP for invoice verification. But when I am trying to do a subsequent debit for more than 10 i am getting error as tolerance limit exceeded. I want the tolerance to work for invoices but not for subsequent debit/credit. Please help.
Thanks in advance

hi,
In other sense the Subse. Debit is a type of invoice only, but in terms of Value but not qty...
So now when you make it, system will take all history ie. from PO to IR and now Subse. debit also into consideration and will check whether you are paying more or less and based on it system will react for tolerances....
Regards
Priyanka.P

Miro debit/credit note and subsequent debit/credit

Dear all,
May I know under what circumstances we use debit/credit note and
under what circumstances we use subsequent debit/credit
Need advice.
Thanks

Hi,
A subsequent debit/credit arises if a transaction has already been settled, and a further invoice or credit memo is received afterwards.
A subsequent debit/credit changes the total invoice value of a purchase order item; the total invoice quantity remains unchanged. Therefore, only a value-based update of the purchasing transaction takes place. There is no quantity-based
update.
1. Subsequent Debit :-You must enter an invoice as a subsequent debit if a purchase order item has already been invoiced and further costs are now incurred. (Example: A vendor has inadvertently invoiced you at too low a price and then sends a
second invoice for the difference.)
2. Subsequent Credit :- You must enter a credit memo as a subsequent credit if a purchase order item was invoiced at too high a price and you have now received a credit memo. (Example: A vendor has inadvertently invoiced you at too high a price and then sends a credit memo for the difference.)
If you enter a subsequent debit/credit, the system suggests the entire invoiced quantity, but no value. The maximum quantity that you can subsequently debit or credit is the quantity that has already been invoiced. You can only enter a subsequent debit/credit for a purchase order item if an invoice has already been posted for this item.
A subsequent debit/credit cannot refer to a particular invoice.
Subsequent debits and credits are listed separately in the PO history.
3. Credit Memo :- You usually receive a credit memo from a vendor if you were overcharged. As is the case for invoices, credit memos refer to purchase orders or goods receipts.
You post a credit memo if too large an amount has been invoiced. When you post the credit memo, the total invoiced quantity in the PO history is reduced by the credit memo quantity. The maximum quantity you can make a credit for is the quantity that has already been invoiced.
In the same way as the corresponding goods receipt is expected or posted for the invoice, in the case of a credit memo, the system assumes that the credit memo belongs to a return delivery or reversal of the goods receipt. This means that the credit memo is settled using the GR/IR clearing account.
Regards,
Pardeep Malik

LIV Subsequent Debit

Dear Guru's
I have a question regarding LIV and Subsequent Debits.
We have a Value Tolerance set of Lower 20% or £50 and upper 2% or £10 (OMR6). I have a Purchase Order for qty 1 Value £1,500. At this point no GR has taken place.
In MIRO I create an Invoice Receipt for Qty 1 at £1,400 and as expected the Invoice is Payment Blocked. Message in MIRO states GR qty equals Zero and Value below Tolerance.
However, If I now do a subsequent Debit for the remaining £100 this does not Block. I understand the value has now matched the PO, but the GR qty is still Zero.
This cause's a problem in that the original Invoice Receipt is still blocked but the Subsequent Debit is available for payment.
Is there any way i can get the Subsequent Debit to automatically Block in the above scenario.
Many Thanks
Paul Gray

A subsequent debit is designed to be used only when you have extra payment to be processed for an invoice that has already been processed and paid. Here you are talking about an invoice that is yet to paid, that is why you are facing this issue. The correct process here is to cancel the unpaid invoice and then post a new invoice for 1500 pounds.

Price check during subsequent debit & credit

Hi experts,
My client wants a scenario which is enumerated below.
The client requirement is to have a tolerance level check during miro as well as subsequent debit & credit.
For the miro i have taken tolerance key PP: price variance with error message 083 & it is working fine for percenatge toleranace check i.e if the PO is made for 10 rs/unit & i have set upper & lower limit of tolerance of 10% system will not allow to do miro at price of more than 11 rs/unit or less than 9 rs/unit.
The problem i am facing is to activate the same check at the time of subsequent debit & credit i.e if somebody does a miro of 10 rs/unit & then does a subsequent debit to pay another 2 rs to the vendor the system is not giving an error message but actually the vendor is getting 12 rs/unit which is against norm. How do we check this thing so that system does not allow the same.
waiting for reply.

Hi all,
There is a new development. The error message is getting triggered for subsequent debit. That means if i have set a tolerance level of 10%,& initially received the invoice at a 10 rs/unit which is the PO price then system will not allow to do a subsequent debit for another 2 rs/unit ( by effectively making the price 12 rs/unit) as it falls outside the tolerance limit by throwing an error message.
But same error message is not getting effected for subsequent credit i.e after receiving the invoice for 10 rs/unit if i do a subsequent credit for 2 rs/unit then it is falling outside set tolearnce limit of +-10% ( by effectively making the price 8 rs/unit) but the system is not triggering any message.
Any idea whether it is a SAP default, that the message determination will trigger only for subsequent debit & not for subsequent credit.
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