Missing Apple Loops

I clicked by mistake the reindex option in the Media > Loops window and all of my loops dissapeared!!
I tried to bringthem back from their original position my dragging and droping their folder to the Loops window but nothing...
Any help ?

Probably your loop browser is now set to only show user loops, of which you probably have none. Set it back to show all.

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Missing / No "Apple Loops Index" Folder of TXT Files

I've been having a weird issue for a while now, even after doing a clean install of Yosemite again. It seems I've never had an Apple Loops Index folder in my Macbook's Library, and even when I make one from scratch in the proper location and run a loops re-index from both LPX and GarageBand, no .txt index files are made. I've never seen the folder or files before. The reason why I'm asking about this is because I've had some issues with missing Apple Loops folders that I definitely have in my HD library, but they won't show up. Many support forums advised trashing the Apple Loops Index text files and re-indexing, but I have no way of finding this folder. Has anyone experienced this or read any similar issue reports?
Thanks!

Hello,
Loops reside in a few files.
/Library/Audio/Apple Loops
~/Library/Audio/Apple Loops (if you installed any thiord party guys)
The index files are here:
/Library/Audio/Apple Loops Index
~/Library/Audio/Apple Loops Index
To move the loops to an external drive:
1. Move all of the loops from the Apple Loops folders above and move them to the external drive.
2. Delete all of the Index files.
3. Use the Loop Browser to reindex the loops from the new drive.
Be sure to drag the loops as individual folders (in other words if you store them in a folder called loops and then have groups of loops under that) if you don't, you will have one large group instead of several smaller ones. It makes it easier to find what you want.

Insrument missing when using green Apple Loop

Greetings,
When dragging the green Apple Loop "Bread and Butter Bass 09" onto an audio instrument track in my arrange window, the result sounds very different than dragging the loop onto an audio track. When clicking on the "Bass" on the I/O of the channel strip of the instrument track, a small beige colored window pops up which says that it is the EXS24... which looks much different than the large green EXS24 (I presume the large green window is for the sampler and the other is not?).
Anyway, the EXS24 screen for bass says "MISSING: Thumbstroke Bass". Doing a search for Thumbstroke Bass reveals that there are three related files for this instrument on my system, and the file paths for each related file are as follows...
For Thumbstroke Bass.pst... Hardrive/Library/Application Support/GarageBand/Instrument Library/Plug-In Settings/Bass/Thumbstroke Bass.pst.
For Thumbstroke Bass.exs... Hardrive/Library/Application Support/GarageBand/Instrument/Library/Sampler/Sampler Instruments/Thumbstroke Bass.exs.
And for Thumbstroke Bass.cst... Hardrive/Library/Application Support/GarageBand/Instrument/Library/Track Settings/Software/Bass/Thumbstroke Bass.cst.
How can I get the green Apple Loop in my instrument track to sound similar to the way it sounds in the Loop Browser? If the problem is the missing instrument above (Thumbstroke Bass), then how can I get this instrument into my EXS24? Do all three files above need to be put into a special place?
I performed a scan update in my project manager... thinking that this would insert the necessary files into my EXS24, but I noticed no change in the menus on my EXS24 (the ? sampler too).
Thank you for the help...
Power Mac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Thanks to all for the very helpful responses.
Regarding Bee Jay's post...
The version of Logic that I am running is 7.2.3.
I recently added an extra internal hardrive (Seagate 500 gig, 7200 RPM) and installed the most up to date Tiger OS. I then installed Logic 7.01... a few weeks later, I upgraded Logic directly from 7.01 to 7.2.3 (bypassed 7.1).
In the process, I copied my garage band folder and portions of my Logic folder from my Seagate to my LaCie external hardrive with the goal of accessing instruments and samples from my LaCie. During recording, Logic is running on my Seagate, but the recording path records to my original hardrive. I noticed last night that the garage band folders on my LaCie and Seagate did not have the Thumbstroke Bass sample instrument files... whereas my original MacIntosh HD does have those files.
When installing the Tiger OS on my Seagate, I wanted to do a fresh clean install, and did not use Migration Assistant, and did not transfer any files from my MacIntosh HD which had Panther on it at the time. When updating to Tiger on the MacIntosh HD, I did a simple update preserving previous pref files, etc. (which explains perhaps why the Thumbstroke Bass files were not deleted on the MacIntosh HD).
I have some idea of some of the reasons this can happen.
The Garagaband instruments like "Bass", "Drums" and so on, are basically mini EXS24's. If you have a "Drums" instrument loaded, and load an EXS24 instead, the same instrument remains loaded and you can play it in the full EXS24 as normal.<<</div>
Yes, I have noticed the same above...
It turns out that there is a small amount of sample content that must be in a preset location - if it's not, Logic does not initialise any of the mini-EXS24's, and trying to load content that requires them will fail.<<</div>
Thank you, that makes sense.
My mini-EXS24's do seem to initialize, but they have the message "MISSING: Thumbstroke Bass". I presume that the small amount of sample content that *must" be in a preset location is not there... the question is... How do I get it there?
Try going to an instrument insert slot, and see which of the Garageband instruments you have available. In 7.1.x, there should be about 15 or so instruments - if you can only see about 9 or so, and can't see "Hybrid-basic" and so on, then this is an indication that you may have missing or moved Garageband content.<<</div>
My instrument slots show about 15 or so instruments under the Garageband instruments, and the "Hybrid-basic" is there. Should I be able to find "Thumbstroke Bass" in the instrument slot menu also? (so far, I have not been able to find it)
See my thread here for more details on this:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=730936&tstart=0
Have a look and see whether this might be the problem you are having.
If not, then get back to me, it might be a case of your sampler instruments or samples not being found.<<
Very helpful thread... I see some parallels to my current problem. You wrote that you had aliased your "entire AppSupport/Garageband library to an external drive, which works fine with Logic and Garageband except the sample based instruments in Logic - they seem to ignore the alias and hence can't locate the *.exs and/or the samples which they need." At the time, I did not know that I needed to create aliases, but I think that aliases were effectively created when I simply clicked and dragged the files from one drive to another, correct?
The next step that you wrote about puzzles me... You wrote, "So after a big of re-jigging the library files around, I've ended having the "Sampler -> Sampler Files -> Hybrid Synthesisers" samples and the instrument settings in the real AppSupport/GB directory, with all the rest of the samples and GB loops on the external drive." I am confused as to which files and their paths that you are referring to...
Don't forget that "Scan" in the Project manager does not change anything.<<</div>
I see!
I had forgotten that, and yes, it did not change anything.
In order to relink your files, you'll have to perform the "Resolve instruments" option, which goes and relinks sampler instruments with their required samples.<<</div>
THANKS!
However, after opening the Project Manager, I cannot find anything in the drop-down menus for "Resolve instruments". How do I get there? Do I need to do another scan to get there?

Help! apple loops missing

Ok, I am a novice to Logic and I have a little issue.
i am in the loop browser IN logic
when i click all it says roughly 13,000
here is the catch, i am trying to move all of my loops, voices, instruments, read/write over to my 7200rpm 1TB External
when i go to library/audio/apple loops, only some are there but not all
For example, when i am in a project and i search in the loop browser 808 (for a drum loop) it appears
However, when i search 808 in my finder it finds nothing.
Where is it?
Also, is there a reason you cant edit/analyze roland loops in the mixer?
or does this directly relate to the fact that i cannot find them in finder
I stress that they are in my logic loop broser but not in the apple loops folder in my finder.

Hi Huemanbing.F.O.I,
Welcome to the Support Communities!
The article below may be able to help you with this issue.
Logic Pro and Express: Rebuilding the Loop Index
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3443?viewlocale=en_US
Cheers,
- Judy

Some Apple Loops refuse to index when dropped onto the Loop Browser

I'm hoping somebody has a fix for this odd problem. Some of the Apple Loops which came with version 1.0.1 refuse to index via the loop browser.
First off, I had to re-install GarageBand 1.0.1 after an invalid library error message appeared after upgrading to Tiger. The re-install wasn't completed totally and it did the same thing on 2 attempts. The next error message was: Apple Loops are missing, or something to that effect. I had to install the Apple Loops found in HD->Library->Application Support->GarageBand by dropping them onto the GarageBand Loop Browser at the bottom of its window. It indexed them, they appeared, and I was happy.
Today, for some reason, I looked through the loops folder mentioned above and noticed about one third of the loops do not appear in the Loop Browser, naturally some really neat stuff is missing! So I decided to drag & drop these Apple loop files onto the browser individually. It says it's indexing them, althought the guitar icon in the dock jumps while doing so, but they never appear and don't show-up in the search box either. They can however be dropped onto the Timeline from the Finder and will play as a music file. The problem is that I cannot listen to them from the loop browser for easy selecting when arranging.
Is there any way to get these stubborn Apple files to appear & play in the Loop Browser? I was hoping they could be added via the Timeline to the Loop Browser, but have had no success. Also, I tried the Apple Loops Utility thinking maybe the appropriate tags were missing, but can't figure out what is missing, if anything.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Barb
iMac G5 20 Mac OS X (10.4.4)

The Loop Browser filters what it displays by only showing loops in the same Time Signature as the song you've created, and within 2 semitones of the Key your song is in.
You can change the latter by tuning off Keyword Browsing in GB's preferences.
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Apple Loops and the Loop Browser

maybe I'm missing something here, but whenever I save an edited audio file (or loop) with Apple Loops I can never seem to find the same file in the Loop Browser.
(unless that is how the app is suppose to behave ...)
I assumed the Loop Browser behaves somewhat like Logic's Project Manager, referencing and finding files that are associated with Logic Sessions.
Long story shot, how can i save my edited Apple Loop files and still find them using the Loop Browser
Thanks.

The additional content is not just the loops. It is also all the samples for the instruments etc.
You are correct, however, in the method of moving the loops.

Apple Loops Questions

1) Where does Logic store user-created loops that I've added to the library?
2) What is the easiest/best way to convert a regular .aiff or .wav file into an apple loop?
3) I'm getting a lot of artifacts when I use loops I created--even when the loop is being played back at the same tempo as the original! Is this normal? You'd think that if the original cut was 120 BPM, and I turn it into an Apple loop, and stick it into another project at 120 BPM, there should be no artifacts, right?
4) Sometimes when I click "add to loop library" Logic won't let me select "looping" as an option. This is after I've already analyzed the cut in Apple Loops Utility. What's up with that?
Any help, insight or guidance would be appreciated.
Thank you!

zgogor wrote:
1/ apple loops folder / check them ....
I see folders for all Apple's loops and jam packs, but nothing for my loops.
Edit: Found them They are at:
~/Library/Audio/Apple Loops/User Loops
Before I was checking the root /Library, which is why I couldn't find them.
2/ apple loop utility application / check it ...
I have been using it, but considering the strange behavior I'm getting (see question #3 and #4) I think I might be missing a step or doing it wrong. Right now I open an audio selection in Apple Loops Utility, fill in the tags, mess around with the transient sensitivity, then "save." So why can't I add it as a loop after that?
3/ no of course.
Any idea what I might be doing wrong?
4/ add to appleloop library doesn't mean it is converted, check appleloop utilty first then add them to the Lib
I did use the loop utility first. I mentioned that in my original post.
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Homemade Apple Loops (w/Loops Utility) won't show up in Loop Browser

I just finished making a whole batch of homemade Apple Loops. Through Logic I opened up each audio file in the Apple Loops Utility, marked its tempo, marked "Looped" and then did the transients window to make sure it sounded good, then did "Save" or "Save All" from the Apple Loops Utility task tray.
I then dumped that folder full of custom loops into my loop browser for catalog'ing, but for some reason only about 10 of them show up when I click "All" to see all the loops in that folder.
So I re-opened the entire batch in Apple Loops Utility and made tiny changes to each loop's transients, just enough to trigger the dot next to the loop that means "you need to save these changes" - and I resaved the entire batch.
Tried the add-to-loop-browser process again, and again, only those initial 10 loops showed up in the browser again. The remaining 190 won't pop up.
I can't figure out what's missing or what I did wrong. Any ideas?
Kirby

FIXED!
If you run into this same problem:
In order for your homemade loops to show up in Logic's Loop Browser, when in the Apple Loops Utility you need to select at least one "Descriptor" - if you don't, the loop won't appear in the browser. Even if you don't need a Descriptor, just batch-select all of your loops in the tray and then pick 1 Descriptor, resave, and re-drop into Apple's Loop Browser.
Kirby

Apple loops download doesn't work?

Just upgraded to a new iMac and noticed many of the standard Apple loops are greyed out. When I double-click one, I get:
"The Software Instrument or Apple Loop selected is not currently installed on your computer. Would you like to install the complete set of Garageband instruments and loops?"
Selecting "Download Now" and clicking "OK" causes Software Update to launch, but the latter tells me everything is up to date and it quits.
If I later go back and click on the missing loop again, I get:
"The Software Instrument or Apple Loop selected is currently being installed. You have already initiated the installation of additional content for GarageBand via Software Update. For additional information please open the 'Software Update' application."
Nothing is, of course, happening with Software Update. It quit thinking there was nothing to do, and opening it again will only result in the same message that everything is up to date. I can't figure out what to try next. Any suggestions?

I just went through this about five minutes ago; I'm running OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, with iLife 11. My system was upgraded to both of these (I think it came with OS X 10.5 and iLife 9). The extra loops don't seem to be on either DVD, however if you reinstall the default loops package, that seems to kick things into gear.
No matter if I selected Download now or Download later, the loops refused to show up in Software Update.
Here is what worked for me:
Quit GarageBand
Insert the iLife 11 CD
Right-click on the "Install iLife" icon, and choose "Show Original"
Run the GarageBand_Loops.pkg package. Go through the installation, once that's done:
Open GarageBand
I then opened a song I'd made with loops.
Click on one of the missing loops. (Yes, they're still missing, but that's ok now)
Select Download Later.
Quit GarageBand
Run Software Update
The 1.2GB "GarageBand Instruments and Apple Loops" update showed up! Finally!
Let Software Update install it.
I just did this five minutes ago (May 20, 2011)
I just opened my song in GarageBand and all the loops that were missing are there now! Success!

All drum loops in LE 8 are greyed out and Apple loops utility 'can't be installed'

Hi
I installed Logic Express 8 and have loads of loops missing, especially the drum loops.
Even the Apple loops utility is giving me problems. It looks like the Apple loops utility was installed (because I have the icon for it now), but everything inside that utility is greyed out. When I try to re-install it, i get the error message 'Apple Loops Utility can’t be installed on this computer. The specified message could not be found for the index 0.'
I have a new MAC Mini OS X 10.6.7
Help would be appreciated.
UPDATE: I have looked through other related discussions here but could not find the naswer.
I also just checked in /Library/Audio/Apple Loops/User Loops to see if the files are there and of course they are not.
In fact, funnily enough, there are 0 files in the apple loops (although I do have plenty of loops that do play in LE8, just not the drum loops), which is strange. Where are all the files?????
I also found the following interesting point in the discussions here:
'The standard installation doesn't install all the loops. You'll have to do a custom installation and check the GB extras.'
The problem is that I am never given any option to do a custom installation when I install. It only offers the normal installation mode.

Hi,
1. On the newer Macs, iLife 11 or so, only a part of the loops is being installed, and the other part must be downloaded via software update. GB will tell you so if you select a greyed out loop.
2. Loops should all be in "(your HD)/library/audio/apple loops/apple", not in the user library.
3. If you find the loops are installed there but aren't shown in LE or in GB, you might want to re-index the loops.
4. If loops are still missing after re-indexing, drag the loops folder straight above your loop browser and drop them there - this should add the missing loops.
Fox

After reinstalling system software, Apple Loops won't re-index

I have an odd problem that I really need some help with. I feel like there must be a simple solution, and I'm just missing something obvious.
The other day I had to do an archive and install from my original system disks (10.4.2) and then bring myself back to 10.4.11 (running a dual quad-core G5 here). I had to manually move my audio units and virtual instruments back to my current logic setup and application support folders.
I just went into the Loop Browser, and all of my apple loops have disappeared from the window. The loops exist on various external hard drives, and I normally just drop them onto the loop browser and pick "keep at current location" - then the browser indexes them, and everything is fine.
This is the first time I'm accessing apple loops since I reinstalled the system software (and I do still have the "Previous System" folder that the archive-and-install generates), and I got a blank list in the loop browser. So I tried dragging and dropping a few loop libraries, but to no avail - it appears to index them quickly (taking 1-2 seconds) but then there's still nothing in the browser. I've deleted the old index text files, so that shouldn't be a problem.
Can anyone help me figure out how to get my apple loops to re-index properly?
Kirby

EastcoasterWestcoaster wrote:
All of the external HD's are set to "ignore permissions for this volume" so permissions shouldn't be an issue.
Wrong!
this could be the problem...
Permission must be active
Logic studio require license... so require permission
if the external drive as set to ignore permussion logic will never index a folder without ownreship
you need to pay for Apple Loops
they are not free
they are included in Logic Studio or you need to BUY JamPacks as individual DVD expansion...
*External disk with ignore permission are not allowed...*
*The only way is...*
*you need to create a Alias folder of all contents after installing Logic in the original location... than move that folder original on external drive.... and than you must delete de alias suffis on orther tha the folder must have the same permission as original.... It must be located in the same original location*

System can't find apple loops (accidentally pressed Re-index button)

Hi, I installed some new loops lately but because the installation was not successful, when i tried to listen to one of the loops (which was not properly installed) an option came up asking me if i wanted to re-index my loops. I accidentally pressed it, but when system prompted me for my password to continue, i clicked cancelled.
Now, when i next startup Logic Express a window pops up saying There are No Apple Loops installed on your system, please re-install the apple loop package.
What should I do now?
Please help. I am feeling so exasperated

Hi Rob
Thanks so much for your prompt response. This is really bizarre.. now when i open Logic Express, I see some loops in there and the msg that appeared earlier (that no loops are found) no longer shows.
I havent done anything since my last post so i do not know why the situation changed on my lapto.
However I do notice some loops are missing.. when i look into HardDisk -> Library --> Apple --> Apple Loops, i noticed my Jam Pack Rhythm Folder is no longer there.. yet, when i play projects which utilize loops from Jam Pack Rhythm, they play ok, which makes me wonder if the folder has simply gone somewhere, or i have to reinstall them.
Help
Thanks so much!!

GB won't open- This is what I get... Path does not exist: /Library/Audio/Apple Loops Index st: /Library/Audio/Apple Loops Index w/out this directory you cannot use the Loop Browser

Path does not exist: /Library/Audio/Apple Loops Index st: /Library/Audio/Apple Loops Index w/out this directory you cannot use the Loop Browser. Then I get this message...
Instrument Library Invalid
GarageBand Ecpects a valid instrument foledr in /Libraty/Application Support/GarageBand
Please choose a valid instrument Library folder or quit and re-install GB
Any solutions?

Is this a new installation of GarageBand or has it worked before on the same computer?
Or have you transferrred your GarageBand from a different computer?
The error message is saying, that your GarageBand installation is incomplete. There are essential foldrs missing in your system library.
Check, if indeed both folders are missing or if only the permissions are set incorrectly.
Your system library (the folder "System" directly on your system drive) should have the following folders inside the folder "Audio", and they need to be readable by the system and by administrators.
And in the folder /Library/Application Support there should be the Instrument Library.
If these folders do not exist (or no longer exist), restore them from your backup- If your GarageBand version is a new installation, the application may not hve been downloaded or installed completely, then reinstall GarageBand.
What is your GarageBAnd version, and how did you install it originally?
Regards
Léonie

How to use old "Apple Loops for Soundtrack" with Garageband

Since Soundtrack (was part of FinalCut Express HD) doesn't work anymore (since some ProKit framework update) and was not part of the FinalCut Express 4 upgrade I used Garageband for sound creation and editing. But I missed some good loops from the old Soundtrack.
The Apple Loops for Soundtrack were still sitting on my harddisk but Garageband didn't recognize them in the Loop-Browser. Looking at the structure I found the Search Index files (/Library/Audio/Apple Loop Index/). I have two there, one for Garageband and another for iLife Sound Effects. Both are interpreted by Garageband. But no third for the old Soundtrack Loops. So I had a look at the Sound Loops installer DVD from FinalCut HD and there I found a similar structur and copied the Index file to the location of the two indexes mentioned above. I left the Loops for Soundtrack where they are (also could edit the index file for new locations, but that's a 7.5MB text file) and now Garageband knows their location and also lists the loops at the right categories inside the Loop-Browser.
Maybe that helps someone, even if I didn't find a topic about it here.

Ah.. ok, then never mind. Just didn't find any information about how to use the old soundtrack loops with garageband and so I did some thinking on my own. And if it works that easy, the better it is

Can't hear green apple loops

I just downloaded the trail version of Logic express. I want to use some "green" apple loops as well as blue apple loops. I can hear the blue apple loops during playback but not the green apple loops. The only thing that happens with the green apple loops is that a little orange bar moves next to the channel showing that signal is there but i don't hear anything. I know I am diving into this head first but what am I missing. thank you

Hey Andy,
welcome to the forum,
the green loops (midi) you can drag them to the instrument tracks.
It will show notes.
If you drag them to an audio track, it display the audio wave.
Also do you have sound when you press on a green loop in loop broswer?
Try those.
Best regards,
Jorge

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