Missing Basic and Tone Curve Panel in LR5

Last night I installed LR5 (last version was LR3) on my iMac with Mavericks OS and everything was working fine, I thought, and I was using the Develop Module when I noticed the Basic Panel and Tone Curve Panel (which I had been using) had gone missing .  As in, poof, they were gone.  So now I have the Histogram, the Crop and other tools and brushes, and then nothing until HSL/Color/B&W and then on down.

I'm cheating here with another question, but I think it will be quick:  I see LR5 automatically uses the updated interface for Highlights, Shadows, Blacks, Whites and I see they are more precise and subtle.  Can I go to photos adjusted in LR3 that still show the LR3 interface and use the LR5 interface & finer adjustments on the old photos?

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    <dngclr:Edit1 rdf:parseType="Resource">
    <dngclr:X>17</dngclr:X>
    <dngclr:Y>26</dngclr:Y>
    </dngclr:Edit1>
    <dngclr:Edit2 rdf:parseType="Resource">
    <dngclr:X>34</dngclr:X>
    <dngclr:Y>44</dngclr:Y>
    </dngclr:Edit2>
    <dngclr:Edit3 rdf:parseType="Resource">
    <dngclr:X>51</dngclr:X>
    <dngclr:Y>60</dngclr:Y>
    </dngclr:Edit3>
    <dngclr:Edit4 rdf:parseType="Resource">
    <dngclr:X>68</dngclr:X>
    <dngclr:Y>74</dngclr:Y>
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    <dngclr:Edit5 rdf:parseType="Resource">
    <dngclr:X>85</dngclr:X>
    <dngclr:Y>89</dngclr:Y>
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    <dngclr:Edit6 rdf:parseType="Resource">
    <dngclr:X>102</dngclr:X>
    <dngclr:Y>105</dngclr:Y>
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    <dngclr:Edit7 rdf:parseType="Resource">
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    <dngclr:Y>135</dngclr:Y>
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    <dngclr:Edit9 rdf:parseType="Resource">
    <dngclr:X>153</dngclr:X>
    <dngclr:Y>151</dngclr:Y>
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    <dngclr:Edit10 rdf:parseType="Resource">
    <dngclr:X>170</dngclr:X>
    <dngclr:Y>167</dngclr:Y>
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    hello,
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    Click on the small curve icon in the bottom right hand corner of the Curve panel (you can see it in your screenshot) and the curve will change back to sliders.
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    Good morning John,
    The point curve is the one without the sliders. The adjustments for the individual channels are only available with
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    In DNG PE I load a dng file, I choose a camera profile, I go in the Tone Curve panel in the Base Tone Curve I set Linear, I click on the curve and I set in 95 out 160 (only one point for this purpose) and then I save the new profile.
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    My requests:
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    2.) Please add a 'Color Correction' slider to the Tone Curve that is analogous to the 'Color Correction' slider built into the 'Shadows/Highlights' tool in Adobe Photoshop & Apple Aperture.
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    More for your eyes to feast on:
    http://web.mac.com/rishisanyal/Lightroom/HighlightRecovery_LRvsAperture_2.jpg
    http://web.mac.com/rishisanyal/Lightroom/LR_FailsToDecreaseBlownOutHighlights.jpg
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    Now, I try to avoid Aperture at all costs, but, for all these images, seems like I need to use Aperture as my 'external editor' just to fix the highlights!
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