Missing Chapter Markers

Where are my chapter markers!
I am in DVDSP linking buttons to tracks and marker points within tracks and suddenly find that there are no chapter markers!
OK could be me, check FCP, yep there are chapter markers, check the exported, by ref, file in QT, yes the markers are there. Check in Compressor, default setting,
"DVD: Best quality 150mins", no markers, check settings, the should be there, what is going on!
This is going to cost me hours!
Using compressor 3.0.4

No I chose DVDSP Markers as I wanted compression as well as chapters.
The exported file does contain the markers, they are visible within Quicktime, for some reason Compressor is not seeing them. This is not a one off either. I exported 152 files individually as many of them had markers and am aware of the fact that a batch export from FCP drops the markers.
(Apple when will you do something about this bug in batch export?)
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