Missing fonts in PDF or not?

I have an InDesign document that has a linked and placed PDF in it. When I go to export the InDesign document, it gives me the error "Missing Fonts: The following fonts aren't currently available." It then lists the PDF document, and the fonts missing. It then exports the PDF anyways, and the PDF looks fine.
The strange thing is that when I go to Package in InDesign, it says that no fonts are missing, and that all are embedded.
So which is it? Are the fonts embedded or not?

Two additional potential font gotchas:
1) It's changed location in the menus from version to version of Acrobat Pro, but there's a setting "Use Local Fonts" that can trip you up. If it's checked, and you have a PDF that uses (for example) Garamond Premier Pro, but that font is not embedded, then Acrobat will use your installed copies of Garamond Premier Pro to display the PDF "correctly." If you take it to a computer that doesn't have that font installed, the PDF won't "look fine" as you say in your initial post.
2) If a font is used in the source document and is not embedded in the PDF, Acrobat will try to fake up the font using the fonts that are directly installed in Acrobat. (At least it used to work this way, I don't know if it has changed recently.) So, when you go and look at your PDF and decide it looks fine, take a really
close look.
The strange thing is that when I go to Package in InDesign, it says that no fonts are missing, and that all are embedded.
The font check when you package only looks at fonts used in the InDesign document itself; it doesn't go looking for the fonts used in placed PDFs, AIs, etc. Also, when I try an experiment with a test document with a placed PDF with a font that is neither embedded in the PDF nor present on my system, InDesign complains when I place the PDF that the font is not embedded in the PDF, but there is no notice when packaging the file. What's more, the packaging process doesn't say a word about whether or not fonts are embedded in placed documents, so when you tell us that Package tells you that all fonts are embedded, I wonder where you're seeing that.

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>"You have a larger problem though. Your organization needs to be trained in the proper way to prepare documents for the intended purposes. If those >purposes include going to print, you need to either have access to the original files or the people making the PDFs MUST be trained to embed fonts."
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