Missing iviews for Personnel Cost Planning and Simulation

Hi, We are implementing "Personnel Cost Planning and Simulation" in R/3 version 5(mySAP ERP). At present we have the following Business packs in our Enterprise Portal Server. 60.1.5 and 60.1.1(mySAP ERP 2004). We uploaded both the BP's in our test environment to make sure we get all the iveiws that we need.
SAP presentation has all the iviews, But we are unable to locate/identify under MSS the iviews for "Web Based Detail Planning for Line Managers", "Detail Planning: Detail Costs per Cost Object" and so forth for Personnel Cost Planning and Simulation component.
We researched other BP's such as 50.4.5 and 50.3.9 but in vain.
We truly appreciate if some can guide us to get these iviews.

Finally I got the answer and thought I can share this with you all.....
For Personnel Cost Planning and Simulation, SAP has not delivered mss iViews, but SAP has realized the detail planning pages for the line manager and the personnel cost planner by using the Business Server Page (BSP) "hrhcp_planning".
You can find the description of it's usage in the online documentation under the following path:
Human Resources>Personnel Management>Personnel Cost Planning and Simulation-->Personnel Cost Planning and Simulation Flow -->Creating Personnel Cost Plans
--> Providing Detail Planning for Line Managers
--> Detail Planning by Line Managers
--> Detail Planning by the Personnel Cost Planner
If you wish to use the detail planning page in an mss environment, you can integrate the BSP as an external service into the manager's portal. Otherwise, you can also use it, by providing the URL to the managers.

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