Missing movies in project since iOS 8 and iCloud Photo Library

Hi,
I've been to Europe this summer and created a movie in iMovie for iOS. That was when iOS 7.1.2 was the most current release. Today, I wanted to finish up my project. I'm currently running on iPad air, iOS 8.0.2, latest release of iMovie and iCloud Photo Library is enabled since day one. Opened the project and iMovie complained there was missing movies and offered me to search form them. It found 19 out of 40 or something. ***??? Now my movie timeline is filled with clip with exclamation mark and many transitions with pictures in them are missing too. I tryed to download clip that where in iCloud by tapping the Cloud icon but iMovie still cannot find them. How am I supposed to fix this now? My clips are there but iMovie cannot link to them... Apple, are you reading this forum?
JF

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Missing movie files in my project since iOS 8 and iCloud Photo Library

Hello all,
I've been to New York at the start of 2014 and created an awesome movie project in iMovie for iOS. That was when iOS 7.1.2 was the most current release. Today, I wanted to finish up my project. I'm currently running iMovie 2.1.1 on iPad air 1 running iOS 8.1.2 and iCloud Photo Library is enabled since day one. I Opened the project today and iMovie told me there are missing movies in the project and offered me to search for them. It only found 2 out of 140 or something. Now my project timeline is filled with clip with exclamation marks and many transitions with pictures in them are missing too. I tried to download clips that are in iCloud by tapping the Cloud icon but iMovie still cannot find them. Ive also tried importing from iCloud drive, disabling iCloud photo library and syncing the movies from iPhoto using iTunes on my iMac but iMovie cannot link them to the project. I'd hate to see hours of editing work to go down the drain.
Hope someone can help.
RF

Ok, so sinc you turned iCloud photo library, that automatically delets all of your current photos. I found that out the hard way. I'm sorry to hear that your editing has gone to waste. It is still odd that some media was saved though.

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I turned on the iCloud Photo Library on Monday after upgrading my devices to iOS 8.1. I recently noticed that the Photostream portion of the Photos app disappeared, and I can no longer see any of my wife's photos in my library (she is not using iCloud Photo Library).
My take away is that if you enable iCloud Photo Library, then Photostream is disabled (or doesn't function the same). Is this true? In the iCloud and Photos settings page, there is sitll an option to enable Photostream, but my iPhone is no longer pulling those photos off of the Photostream.
This seems like a poor strategy for mechanization since the iCloud Photo Library is not fully supported within OS X, but Photostream is. Why not keep both for the time being, especially since Photostream does not go against your iCloud quota, but the iCloud Photo Library does.
Apple should at least let you use both until iCloud Photo Library is fully supported within OS X.
Can anyone confirm my suspicions or provide more information? I maybe forced to disable iCloud Photo Library just so my wife and I can share pictures...

Yes, your Photostream album goes away. The idea here is that Photostream and "iCloud Photo Library" are covering the same particular area (which is in common with each other) and that area is the "photo sharing" part.
Now, in regards to why can't Apple include them both when you choose to activate the "iCloud Photo Library" ... is simply that you choose to be a "beta tester" in "iCloud Photo Library" ... so you get what you choose in that regard. No one is required to be a "beta tester" and they shouldn't be, if they are not suited to doint that sort of thing. But, you decided you wanted to be a "beta tester" ... so that's what a beta tester gets ... they get to "test out the system" and report any problems and bugs to Apple so that Apple can bring the "beta program" to "final status" and release it to the general public.

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I realize no one is twisting my arm to use anything. But that doesn't stop me from being disappointed about iOS's photo management capabilities compared to what I was used to in Windows Phone.
I already have unlimited OneDrive storage per my Office 365 account so that's not an issue. I just assumed that iCloud would be a more elegant photo syncing solution since it's built into the OS so that was the path I wanted to pursue. However now that I have a better understanding of the iCloud solution, it's clear that I'll stick with the OneDrive app for iOS to automatically back up my photos there instead of iCloud.
Not trying to be snarky and I do appreciate the info and links provided - those definitely helped.
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I have enabled enable iCloud Photo Libray on my iMAC (OS version 10.10.3) and it works fine even though it took a long time to upload picture. And I have enabled iCloud Photo Library on my iPad (iOS 8.3) and it works fine.
But in my iPhone 6 (iOS 8.3) it will not work. I can enable the iCloud Photo Library. The right dialog appears. It says 133 photos must be updated. Then nothing happens. The progress bars show and disappears immediately. Nothing happens.
Yes I have deactivated and activated again. Log out of iCloud and logged in again. Same result. Synchronization will not start.

I am having a similar issue with my iPhone 5s. I have updated my iPad, iMac, iPhone 4s and iPhone 5s and have enabled Photos and iCloud photo library on all four. It is working fine on everything by my iPhone 5s. Photos will not upload from the iPhone 5s to iCloud and my pictures that are in iCloud will not sync to my iPhone 5s. I have tried everything I could think of including (1) disabling and re-enabling iCloud Photo Library, (2) signing in and out of iCloud, and (3) deleting all off the pictures and videos on my iPhone 5s and starting over. Nothing has worked. I also had trouble downloading pictures from my iPhone 5s to my iMac when it was plugged into the iMac. It kept getting hung up midway through. I had to keep unplugging the iPhone 5s, force quitting Photos on my iMac and starting over. Each time, I was able to get a handful of pictures off the iPhone 5s and eventually I got all of them off.

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THEN the other thing you should realize is that if you use this beta service, then you have turned off your "iCloud Backup" for all yours photos. In other words iCloud will NO LONGER back up your photos.
All in all the above means that BEFORE you even attempt to use iCloud Photo Library, you better have all your photos backed up to an alternate and outside service or facility (apart from Apple) ... because that will be the only effective backup you will have for your photos.
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Quick question, when you select IOS Photo / IiCloud storage (photos are optimised etc) what happens when ipad / iphone storage is full and you now need to add new apps, photos etc? In my case I have 3 * 64gb ipads & 2 * 128 gb iphone but these are all filling up with photos since enabling IOS Photo & iCloud Photo Library (as all of my photos on each device are now copbined on every device as well as the cloud). This has become a problem as when I try to sync my idevice I get the device full warning (and I am assuming I now need to delete apps / videos if I want to sync or make more space for new photos etc). As far as I can tell once you enable IOS Photos and iCloud all photos will upload at original resolution and download at idevice resolution and there is no way to select / control the photos you want to keep on phone (eg if you delete photo on phone it will now delete the original on cloud).
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- Is there away to limit control or limit the number of IOS photos that sync to each idevice (eg by starring photos)? I had a look and can not see away to select photos you want to keep or remove (without deleting them on cloud). As per above I am hoping that the IOS sync and icloud systems are smart enough to replace Photos that have already upgraded to cloud with a lower quality / thumbnail to make more more room for new photos and apps (but not clear if this occurs)
- If this is a problem now what happens once the new PHOTOS launches for OS Desktop eg will it add in all our photos from iphoto to the icloud then to the idevice as part of the OS PHOTOS UPGRADE. I have 15-30 gb of photos in IPHOTO that are now backing up to icloud, there needs to be away to only select starred photos or albums or every photo try to download to my iphone (which will kill my storage). There also needs to be away to keep photos on idevice (for those times when you do not have internet and can not download from iCloud to iDevice
Apologies if I have missed something obvious and welcome any thoughts & answers.
If there is no solution then Apple needs to look at this and highlight it as a risk to customers who switch as this is being sold as a way to minimise your device storage but can lead to to customers using up more storage for photos on ipad iphone as a result of switch to IOS PHOTOS &
iCloud Photo Library

Things are not as dire as they might seem at first glance. My 66GB iPhoto Library became a 40GB iCloud Photo Library (~11K photos, ~300 videos) and only uses 2.2GB on my iPad and 2.4GB on my iPhone. Scaling that experience, a 64GB/128GB iOS device should be able to easily handle a 300GB iPhoto library. My iPad and iPhone are 32GB devices and I expect them to be livable through at least 30-40K of photos.
16GB devices have always been problematic for space even before iCloud Photo Library so I'd expect anybody with a 16GB device and more than a few thousand photos is not going to be able to use iCloud Photo Library with it. They will have to use iCloud Photo Streaming to get photos to iCloud Photo Library and iCloud Photo Sharing or iTunes syncing to get a subset of photos back to the device. Not a great solution but workable. However, it wrecks one of the best features for me which is using my iPad to edit the photos I take on my iPhone.
The part that worries me is the automatic space management routine. The problem it creates is that I might want to add a movie, but there won't be enough space, and my only option will be to reset iCloud Photo Library on the device to get back to all thumbnails on it to see if that gets me the space I need. I've already had to do it a couple of times with iTunes Match and it's not fun. It all depends on how aggressive Photo Library will be in trimming off full-size photos/videos and Apple appears to be leaving it a black box at this point. It would at least be nice to know an estimate of the minimum size so I know how much space I can recapture.

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I've had an iPad for awhile but I just got my first iPhone and I'm trying to understand the sync behavior. It seems that with both options enabled (iCloud and Photo Stream), every single image, screenshot, picture downloaded from Twitter, etc is all getting lumped together in the All Photos album and then synced everywhere. I absolutely do not want this. Can I have just a Camera Roll folder that syncs between devices, and then downloads / screenshots / etc stay local to the device without syncing?
I'm coming from Windows Phone, which worked exactly how I just described. Pictures taken with the phone went to the Camera Roll and the Camera Roll synced to OneDrive, and then images downloaded via other apps, or screenshots, went to separate albums that did not sync (unless I configured those albums to sync). This way everything was logically separated, easy to find, and I had complete control over the syncing behavior. This is what I'm trying to replicate on my iPhone.
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I realize no one is twisting my arm to use anything. But that doesn't stop me from being disappointed about iOS's photo management capabilities compared to what I was used to in Windows Phone.
I already have unlimited OneDrive storage per my Office 365 account so that's not an issue. I just assumed that iCloud would be a more elegant photo syncing solution since it's built into the OS so that was the path I wanted to pursue. However now that I have a better understanding of the iCloud solution, it's clear that I'll stick with the OneDrive app for iOS to automatically back up my photos there instead of iCloud.
Not trying to be snarky and I do appreciate the info and links provided - those definitely helped.
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ICloud Photo Library - a really poor support experience (and still unresolved)

I am using (or should I say trying to use) iCloud photo library on iOS 8.1.2 and on an iPhone 5S with 32Gb memory. I bought 200 Gb of Cloud storage too so was ready to go with about 12 Gb of photos.
It was about 3 weeks ago when I turned it on and was initially hopeful, as the number of photos left to sync gradually decreased on my device (there are about 4000 to do). I could see they were coming up at iCloud.com and all looked good for the first 600 or so. And then it "stalled" for the first time and nothing seemed to help - reboot, airplane mode on/off. Occasionally it might do a couple more but then it would just stop.
So, I logged out of iCloud on my device and logged back in again. A long pause whilst everything resyncs and then the photo resync begins again... from the start... 4000 to go. It got further this time, to 800 and every now and then it would process a few more. I left it a week and a half to see what it would do but eventually sure enough it stalls again.
My first chat session with Apple support and the engineer suggests resetting the network settings... nothing.
So the a second chat session with Apple support and the engineer suggests logging out of iCloud on the device and turning it on again. I'm reluctant to go the start of the process again, but I do and overnight I'm rewarded by getting to about 1200 photos this time. And then it stops, so I reset the network settings. A few more and it stops again. By now, I'm pulling my hair out.
So another long chat session and after repeating all of the above an escalation is requested to a senior engineer. A call back is made to me and after a wait of 15 mins on the phone (Apple called me!) the senior engineer begins to lecture me on what beta software is (I know, it's software pre-full release with a few minor issues left to resolve). I politely ask what the next steps might be and the engineer explains to me that I should have no realistic expectations that it should actually work. Her experience is such that uploads may not register with iCloud, downloads may not register with my device and that I may LOSE photos! When I protest, again politely, that this might not be acceptable she hangs up.
The chat engineer who is waiting for my call promises to complain on my behalf to the management and offers a call rescheduled for later which I take up. That was 30 mins ago.
The call comes, I wait 15 mins in the queue again (it tells you a 2 min wait!!!) and then guess what, the call hangs up again.
So here what I am left with. A sync that has now taken 3 weeks and ultimately is no more than a quarter complete. No confidence in the sync process or any idea of what might be causing my connection to fail. 4 hours wasted this weekend with Apple support. The rudeness of staff hanging up on my calls and lecturing me on the merits of beta software. £3 a month paid for storage that I cannot fill.
I can only conclude that the iPhone photo cloud library is not ready and the support staff feel unable to offer any support on next steps. "Beta" or not, you really have to ask if this is good enough.
Apple - if you're reading, you still have my outstanding call back on ref:722150884 sceduled for 16:30 GMT on 11th Jan 2015. Your system says this is still outstanding. If you're ready to call back with a genuine bid to help and an acknowledgement of the problem please feel free. If the software just isn't ready, just say and we can all move on with our lives.

Beenst wrote:
Apple - if you're reading, you still have my outstanding call back on ref:722150884 sceduled for 16:30 GMT on 11th Jan 2015. Your system says this is still outstanding. If you're ready to call back with a genuine bid to help and an acknowledgement of the problem please feel free. If the software just isn't ready, just say and we can all move on with our lives.
This is a user-to-user support forum, not a way to communicate with Apple regarding a support call or issue. (Just trying to save you some more frustration when you don't get a response to this post from Apple).
As a user, I can note that it is beta software, I don't trust it with my photos and I'm not willing to spend the time dealing with issues that can be involved in beta software. There are a number of more proven 3rd party cloud storage options available.

How does iCloud Photo Library and Optimize iPhone Storage Work?

Even Apple Phone support can't answer these questions:
How does iCloud Photo Library (Beta) from yesterday's 8.1 update with Optimize iPhone Storage turned on work? (I'm on an iPhone 6)
It only stores your iPhone/iPad versions on your device, which is amazing. Why would you need anything else? It freed up around 8-10GB of space on my device which is amazing. But how does it work when you use it?
When you email it seems to ask you, when sending what size you want to send like it's always done. It gives you the original 2.4MB version. This works like I'd imagine and when I received the test email the photo was correct. In this case I assume it hits iCloud and sends it from there, not your actual device. (Like it doesn't re-download it to email it). Correct?
When posting to Facebook, does it do this same thing? Or is this something Facebook has to build into their iOS app in an update? Or does it just work? Correct?
When posting to Instagram, does it grab the right version. Obviously the phone optimized version should be fine, but when viewing on a Desktop version of Instagram at instagram.com, will it show the right version?
Sometimes I backup photos using Image Capture on the Mac. If I did that right now, would it only grab the iPhone versions? Obviously I can just test it but it'd be amazing if someone who knows these things could explain all of these use cases.
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In closing it's more of how does this work? Does it work? Why wouldn't you want to use this feature if it saved space and made more sense? I guess I just would love some real clarity since not even the blogs are explaining how it works in every application.
In closing part 2. It does seem to work really well, it's just those fringe cases. I just viewed all my photos on https://beta.icloud.com/#photos and they're all there, easy download of the high res, delete, it deletes from my camera roll on my phone, it's amazing, it works, it's magic. Just tell me what issues there are with storing only low res iPhone on my device and if there are none, game on!
Thanks!

santiagofrommiami wrote:
And of those 4.3GB of backup, my Photo Library is 1.4GB.
So my question is, how do I prevent my Photo Library from being backed up to the cloud, since I already have a backup of it everytime I connect to iPhoto and it copies all those photos to my mac?
I don't know, sorry. It's supposed to work alongside Photos & iCloud, so that photos are stored only once. When it doesn't work you have a couple of options as I see it –
Delete the old backups on iCloud to hopefully start over (I don't like deleting the only backup of anything).
Forget about iCloud backups & use iTunes to backup instead, it might not be suitable if you have no computer etc.
Buy more storage for iCloud.
I don't use iCloud backup, it bemuses me with issues like this, there is no easy way to resolve when it fails.
And one more question while we are at it...can I erase iphoto from my computer now that I have the new Photos app?
That is up to you. If you are happy you do not need it & have a backup of it go ahead & remove it. You can re-download it from the app store if it is already in your Mac App store account.

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Hi,
I have updated IOS to 8.0.2. Now I have an option to turn iCloud Photo Library ON. Correct me if I am wrong, this allows me that every photo or video is automatically uploaded on iCloud... Right? What I want to know is, if this uploading is done only when connected on WiFi, or also when on cellular connection?
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Thank you AxeMan1020! This information helps me, as well.
I am writing to see if perhaps photo streams and shared photos might solve which photo solution (My Photo Stream Vs iPhoto Library) to use when where and why, assisting nikoo_80 - and myself...
nikoo_80 wrote:
Hi,
I have updated IOS to 8.0.2. Now I have an option to turn iCloud Photo Library ON. Correct me if I am wrong, this allows me that every photo or video is automatically uploaded on iCloud... Right? What I want to know is, if this uploading is done only when connected on WiFi, or also when on cellular connection?
Thanks for help!
BTW: Does anyone know where are these photos or videos stored on iCloud? How to get to them on iCloud? These new Photos features with iCloud and syncing are so messy...
Axeman1020 wrote:
By default it uses cellular data. If you turn off cellular data for photos Settings > Cellular > Photos - off) then it will be restricted to wifi.
Just a few warnings, iCloud Photo Library is still in beta so I suggest before turning it on you backup your photos.
Also, once it is enabled, you will no longer be able to sync photos via iTunes and any photos currently on the device that were synced via iTunes will be removed.
By using Photo Streams and shared / auto upload (My Photo Stream) that was also in iOS7, I notice that all of the photos I took, when enabling automatic upload to all my devices, every photo I took was uploaded to iCloud and distributed to iPads and Mac computers, restricted to WiFi only.
When I delete a specific photo, that photo would remain on another device. Removing the share / auto-upload (disabling My Photo Stream) on the phone was able to remove the photos shared from the iPhone onto other devices via iCloud.
Interesting note from AxeMac1020 as using the Beta iPhoto Library disables the ability to retrieve using iTunes or iPhoto after being enabled AND it goes back 30 days only, I like that however how do we preserve photos? Back-up using iPhoto, then enable Library Beta? If this will delete photos once enabled, do we use "Image Capture" or "iPhoto" for import and protection against them being deleted? Seems like a benchmark as majority of photos will be deleted (although I removed all photos completely prior to activating iPhone 6.
I had an issue with the synchronization of photos into iTunes (iOS7) whereas the photos would synch though the storage amount would double as I was selecting events and albums (iTunes sync) while maintaining the same on the iPhone (5), iOS7 related somehow, most likely user error on my part. The point is, with 64GB on that phone, it used 80% of the storage by copying the photos thrice, somehow.
logging into iPhoto, iTunes, I was able to sort, move and remove photos though this is previous to the iCloud Drive & iCloud Photo Library. Does iCloud Photo Library require iCloud Drive and if these are sync'd like iOS7, are these managed on each device, distributed similarly as My Photo Stream? can they be managed on iCloud.com? managed via camera roll / albums/ etcetera ? Are these iCloud Drive managed? Centralized and managed on device that took the photo?
Interesting twist as I hadn't noticed this feature until now! Thank you both !
I am not able to turn iCloud Drive ON yet as my OS X Mavericks require Yosemite OR!!!! Perhaps we have an update!!! I'll check now.
Great resources in this thread! Thanks !

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