Missing Songs on Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra - 40GB. Player empty but space not 1

I have the Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra 40GB.
Over the last couple of weeks I?ve been slowly ripping my CDs, using Creative MediaSource and then adding them to my Nomad player. Recently, I went to turn on my player and notice it saying ?rebuilding library?. I thought nothing of it. I then went to see how many songs and albums were on the player and from what I could tell it looked like a lot less than what I thought I had copied over. The songs were something like 3750 and the number of albums was something like 350, which was far less than what I thought it should be but was not 00% for sure. Total free space was something like 7800MB.
Anyway, yesterday, I tried to copy over some new songs that I had just ripped from CDs. ? of the way through the battery died on the Zen player so it stopped transferring. I went to charge the player and when turned it on the player said ?rebuilding library?. There should, at this point, had been 4500+ songs. I went and tried to copy over the files again, from my computer, and noticed that the songs that I had just copied and would have been skipped, were being copied over again. When I went to check Settings, About the player said I had the ~3750 songs plus the additional songs that had just copied over. At this point I just copied over the new songs bringing my total count to 4634. To be safe, I copied all the songs from my Zen back to a new computer, using Creative MediaSource. After copying over all the files, I then tried a reset of the player, thinking this would delete all the files on the Zen. Instead it did the ?rebuilding library?. When I went back to Settings, About, on the Zen player, it again said there was the ~3750 songs and ~350 albums. So the ?rebuilding library? on my Zen player keeps on removing/hiding my songs and albums.
Since nothing was working, I connected my Zen to my computer again and using the Creative MediaSource deleted all the songs on my Zen player. When I was done it is showing No. of Tracks: 0. Total Memory: 3833MB. Free Memory though is only 8659MB.
There is nothing on my Zen player that I can see. Even using Windows Explorer and Nomad Explorer, it is completely blank.
Someone help please. How do I get back my missing songs and/or reset the player? If at all possible I?d like to get the missing songs off the player since I don?t have those ripped songs on my computer and don?t feel like ripping all those songs again. What is going on?

PaulS7 wrote:
Thank you. I'm trying that now. I see that I can reload the OS (Firmware). Does anyone know where I can find out what the latest firmware is to see if I need to upgrade? How do I find out what the latest firmware is and where do I go to upgrade?
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