Mix logic/master protools

I created a mix in logic. I recorded at 48 sampling rate. now I want to master in PT. I want to bounce my logic mix to a stereo track and import that into PT to master....
When bouncing in Logic what sampling and bit rate do I bounce down to get ready for PT?not sure how to do this..
also should it be a SD2 file?if not what kind? thank you!!!

Export at 24 Bits and 48K (although see my next paragraph on sample rate). AIFF vs. WAV vs. SDII doesn't matter - it's just a matter of telling PT what kind you intend to use when creating the PT session. That goes for sample and bit rate, too, of course.
If this is ultimately destined for CD you'd be better off doing everything at 44.1K. If you already recorded live/acoustic tracks 48K, you'll have to do a sample rate conversion from 48k to 44.1k at some point before burning the CD. This could happen bouncing out of Logic or after mastering in PT (iTunes may do it automatically on burn, too, but I don't know). The choice would depend on who has a better sample rate converter, which is too big a topic for here (or at least for me). IF, however, you're song is all soft synths, and again you're going to end up on CD (as opposed to a film project), change the whole session to 44.1K and bounce at 44.1K as well.
One question I have is: since Logic is 32 bits internal or whatever, are you supposed to dither down to 24 Bits??

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-Most dubbing stages consider a PT session a desireable deliverable for a dub session.
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I believe that your assumption regarding audio routing is correct. There's also a program called Racks..you (and I as well) should check it out.
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Agreed !!
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I spent a bit experimenting with this too.. A bit cumbersome, but it works... I have a Mac Pro 8 core, and a G5 powermac (PPC).. I was trying to use 3rd party plugins synths on Powermac, to record into Mac Pro... The delay made it impossible to really play along with it.. There was some kind of latency comensator on the AU or MIDI receive (I forget which) but I couldn't get that to really work well.
I ended up, recording the midi performance on the Mac Pro, using a dummy instrument, then I fed the midi to the Powermac and bounced it's audio back to Mac Pro...
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Rewire also might be able to handle it - now that I think about it....
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Pancenter wrote:
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Hi,
your question is interesting But I don't want to replay your specific question... There are anthyng wrong in your desire to use 2 Macs... BUT
I have worked on a similar environment in the past...
I'm talking about G4 400 + a Pentium 3 PC with tascam Giga studio...
I suggest to avoid to use 2 computers...
Logic is able to work without Pro Tools...
Pro Tools is obsolete and you are forced to stay on Leopard 10.5.5...
Why?
Logic works on Leopard 10.5.6...
My G5 is faster than ever with Leopard 10.5.6
Logic 8.0.2 is 1000 times more STABLE on Leopard.. (I never get any Logic crash with G% and 10.5.6!!!
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Leopard and Logic comes with Maximum sound quality... Pro Tools is a step Back to the past!...
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Using 2 Computers on a Digital studio is a obsolete way to work!
too much problems...
too much time waste for syncing
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you need to use Remote Desktop
youneed to use Sharing network
you will loose about 50% of CPU power processing.
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Anyway you are free to testing by yourself...
Good Luck
G

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