Mix of SAP Gateway and non SAP Gateway for Integration with SAP

Hello,
I am looking for a document on where SAP NW Gateway fits in as part of an integration overall strategy.  So, for example, my understanding it is primarily for Mobile app integration.  I hear some customers talking about using Gateway for what we normally think of as EAI core integration.   So, it does not seem right to me in many typical SAP integration requirements would be handled via Gateway.  Other traditional SAP integrations via PI or another ESB leveraging enterprise services, SAP API like BAPIs and IDOCS would be more appropriate in many non-mobile type situations.
Does anyone have general guidance on the above integration advice, thx

A good discussion..If I can add few things
1) PI REST Adapter is planned, should be available sometime in near future..
I do not think every integration scenario should be handled in Gateway (rather oData style) just because it can or it might work thinking. Doing it odata style means you need to re-write all functionalities as Web Based Services (eSOA anyone??)
2) Gateway (oData Services) - should be used in User to System scenario ( mobile, browser light weight type) , where you would want to transfer minimal data to the user and back
3) PI - System to System as you mentioned. e.g. Master Data/Customer Synchronization between ecc & crm etc. Doing them in oData style seems like overkill to me when you can use the IDOCs/ALEs and you do not need the data to be transferred over HTTP.
Both Gateway and PI are targeted for different scenarios and have their own place, and as such the right product should be evaluated carefully for each scenario.
Just my two cents.
Sandip

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    If necessary, you can create an HTML page on a Web server that contains the link file://C:/Program%20Files/SAP/FrontEnd/Bw/wdbrlog.exe.
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    Calling the Business Explorer Browser
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    You can find additional information in the Enterprise Portal documentation in the SAP Help Portal (http://help.sap.com) ® SAP NetWeaver ® SAP Enterprise Portal ® EP 5.0 SP5 ® Administration Guide ® Roles ®
    ·        Roles and SAP Systems ® Migration of SAP Roles to the Enterprise Portal
    ·        Role Maintenance ® Definition and Provision of Role Contents ® Creating External Services ® Creating External Services for SAP Transactions.
    ·        Role Maintenance ® Creating Roles and Assigning Contents ® Assignment of Content Objects to Roles ® Assigning External Services
    Differences SAP BW 3.5 – SAP EP 6.0 & SAP BW 2.x/3.x – SAP EP 5
    Use of BW Objects in the Enterprise Portal
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    Publishing BW Objects to the Enterprise Portal
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    In SAP EP 5.0, the SAP BW system (or the SAP BW systems) is maintained in the system landscape, through which a call of BEx Web applications is possible at runtime. In SAP BW 2.x/3.x systems, the SAP Enterprise Portal (or SAP Enterprise Portals) are not maintained. Thus a BW system only has a one-sided connected to a portal.  For this reason, the inclusion of BW content must also be done in a separate step in the portal.
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    Integration of SAP BW 3.5 and SAP EP 6.0
    Use
    The integration of content from SAP BW into the SAP Enterprise Portal enables you to work with business intelligence content in the Enterprise Portal.
    This section applies to the integration of SAP BW 3.5 and SAP EP 6.0 on Web AS 6.40.
    SAP EP 6.0 on Web AS 6.20 does not include the necessary enhancements for the full features of integration options that are possible with SAP BW 3.5. For more information about the options with SAP EP 6.0 on Web AS 6.20, see Integration of SAP BW 3.x and SAP EP 6.0.
    Prerequisites
    You have made the necessary settings in SAP BW 3.5 and SAP EP 6.0. For more information, see Making Settings for SAP BW 3.5 and SAP EP 6.0.
    Features
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    ·        Integration from the User’s Viewpoint
    ·        Integration from the Viewpoint of Administrators and Authors
    Integration of SAP BW 3.x and SAP EP 6.0
    Use
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    The name SAP BW 3.x includes the following releases:
    ·        SAP BW 3.0B
    ·        SAP BW 3.1 Content
    ·        SAP BI Content 3.2 Add-On
    ·        SAP BI Content 3.3 Add-On
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    SAP EP 6.0 on Web AS 6.20 does not include the necessary enhancements for the complete scope of functions regarding integration options that are possible with SAP BW 3.5. For this reason, SAP EP 6.0 on Web AS 6.20 cannot use the extensive integration options with SAP BW 3.5
    Prerequisites
    You have made the necessary settings in SAP BW 3.x and SAP EP 6.0. For more information, see Making Settings for SAP BW 3.x and SAP EP 6.0.
    Features
    The features of integration of SAP BW 3.x and SAP EP 6.0 correspond in part to the integration of SAP BW 3.5 and SAP EP 6.0. For this reason, you should carefully read the appropriate sections under features that are linked to here and note the following differences:
    Integration from the User’s Viewpoint
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    ·        Displaying Content from SAP BW in the Enterprise Portalsapurl_link_0002_0003_0016:
    The display types Precalculated BEx Web Application as Document and BEx Web Application as Link in Knowledge Management are not supported.
    ·        Calling Content from SAP BW in the Enterprise Portalsapurl_link_0002_0004_0016:
    Calling BEx Web Applications as documents and links in Knowledge Management in the KM Navigation iView is not possible.
    The Business Explorer portal role does not exist.
    ·        Content from SAP BW in the Navigation Panelsapurl_link_0002_0005_0016:
    In this section there are no restrictions.
    Integration from the Viewpoint of Administrators and Authors
    In the section Integration from the Viewpoint of Administrators and Authors, there are the following restrictions:
    ·        Overview: Integration- and Display Types of BW Content in the Portalsapurl_link_0002_0007_0016:
    The following display types are supported:
    ¡        BEx Web Application As an iView
    ¡        BW Workbook As an iView
    ¡        BW Query As an iView
    ¡        Web-Interface As an iView
    ¡        Components from SAP BW
    The following display types are not supported:
    ¡        BEx Web Applications as a document in Knowledge Management
    ¡        BEx Web Applications as an online link in Knowledge Management
    ¡        BW workbook as a document in Knowledge Management
    ¡        BW-Query as an online link in Knowledge Management
    ¡        BW query as a document in Knowledge Management
    ¡        Single BW document in Knowledge Management as an iView
    ¡        Multiple BW documents in Knowledge Management as an iView
    The following integration tools are supported:
    ¡        Portal Content Studio
    ¡        SAP Role Upload (from SAP EP 6.0 on Web AS 6.40)
    The following integration tools are not supported:
    ¡        BEx Broadcasting Wizard
    ¡        BEx Broadcaster
    ¡        BEx Web Application Designer
    ¡        BEx Query Designer
    ¡        KM Content
    ·        Displaying Content from SAP BW in the Enterprise Portalsapurl_link_0002_0008_0016:
    Content from SAP BW can be displayed in the following ways:
    ¡        BEx Web Application or Query as iView in the Enterprise Portal
    ¡        BW workbook as an iView in the Enterprise Portal
    ¡        Web Interface (from BW BPS) as iView in the Enterprise Portal
    ¡        Components from SAP BW
    ·        Calling Content from SAP BW in the Enterprise Portalsapurl_link_0002_0009_0016:
    Calling content from SAP BW is only possible using portal roles. For more information, see Calling with Portal Roles.
    ·        Content from SAP BW in the Navigation Panelsapurl_link_0002_0011_0016:
    In this section there are no restrictions.
    ·        Generating Content from SAP BW for the Enterprise Portalsapurl_link_0002_0012_0016:
    To generate content from SAP BW, you have the following: Integration Using the Portal Content Studio, Integration Using Role Upload and Integration Using the Role Menu and the Alert Monitors. Integration Using Role Upload will be supported starting with SAP EP 6.0 on Web AS 6.40.
    Information Broadcasting in SAP BW 3.5 especially provides integration into Knowledge Management, which is not available in SAP BW 3.x. BEx Web Applications as documents and links in Knowledge Management are not supported with SAP BW 3.x.
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