MixDown: Too Quiet, Loses Quality, and Overexaggerates Panning/Bass

I'm having a lot of problems with mixing down my songs from GarageBand into iTunes. Here's the problem:
In GarageBand I get everything so it sounds perfect. However, when I mixdown the file to iTunes it becomes very quiet, loses much of the "umpf" that it had in GarageBand, and overexaggerates the panning and bass.
I've been able to compensate for the panning by simply under panning in GarageBand. I've not yet been able to solve the other problems.
Mixed songs are always at a lower level than a typical CD or mp3. When I try and boost the sound in GarageBand I run into peaking problems and it sounds even worse (distorted). In addition to being quieter they lose much of their presence and umpf as well as overexaggerating the bass.
It's a real pain because none of this is evident in GarageBand, so it's only after recording and mixing down that I find out it sounds bad. The bass is especially bad -- it's fine in the GarageBand mix and then is completely overblown in mp3.
Any and all suggestions would be most welcome.

hi there- i'm sure i'm not as helpful as some of the guys here who answered my questions, but i'll say a couple of things, if i may.
check EVERYTHING in your iTunes preferences file. then double check to make sure you're importing at the levels you prefer. you can set how you want it imported, as in what kind of file, mp3< AIFF, various other files types, and also the bit rate, so make sure that looks cool. double check there's no added eq on your itunes program, you may have the equalizer set to a curve and not know it.
i had a panning problem that i endured for about 4 days and night and lost mucho hair, but it got solved. it ended up being the sound enhancement box got checked. who knew ? good luck........

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actually, i can see in that code that you do still have wmode
transparent stuff in there. if you look just a little before
the ending
script tag, you'll see some. and then it's also in one of the
parameter
tags. in fact, you have the wmode=transparent parameter tag,
but not the
one that the instruction i gave you said to put in! actually,
it doesn't
look like you followed the instructions i gave you at all! at
least not
completely.
i think your best bet might be to just delete the video from
the page
(your code is too messed up for me to figure it out, sorry)
and
re-insert it, then follow the instructions on the link i gave
you. but
you need to do EVERYTHING it says to do, all the way until it
says *"2.
Hiding the <select> element:"
* if you start fresh and follow those instructions precisely,
i think it
will work!
just started wrote:
> courtney (n h c) wrote:
> quick question: when you did the stuff in the link i
gave you, did you
> remember to take out any wmode/transparent stuff that
you already put in
> there?
>
> Yes I did take out the wmode/transparent.
>
> This is the code. Thanks.
>
> <script type="text/javascript">
> AC_FL_RunContent(
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http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#
>
version=8,0,0,0','width','550','height','367','id','FLVPlayer','src','FLVPlayer_
>
Progressive','flashvars','&MM_ComponentVersion=1&skinName=Clear_Skin_3&streamNam
>
e=videos/2007_fishing_video&autoPlay=true&autoRewind=true','quality','high','sca
>
le','noscale','name','FLVPlayer','salign','lt','pluginspage','
http://www.macrome
>
dia.com/go/getflashplayer','movie','FLVPlayer_Progressive','wmode','transparent'
> ); //end AC code
> </script><noscript><object
> classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
> codebase="
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#ve
> rsion=8,0,0,0" width="550" height="367"
id="FLVPlayer">
> <param name="movie" value="FLVPlayer_Progressive.swf"
/>
> <param name="salign" value="lt" />
> <param name="quality" value="high" />
> <param name="scale" value="noscale" />
> <param name="wmode" value="transparent" />
> <param name="FlashVars"
>
>
value="&MM_ComponentVersion=1&skinName=Clear_Skin_3&streamName=videos/2007_fishi
> ng_video&autoPlay=true&autoRewind=true" />
> <embed src="FLVPlayer_Progressive.swf" wmode="opaque"
width="550"
> height="367" quality="high"
> pluginspage="
http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"
> type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed>
>
flashvars="&MM_ComponentVersion=1&skinName=Clear_Skin_3&streamName=videos/2007_f
> ishing_video&autoPlay=true&autoRewind=true"
quality="high" scale="noscale"
> width="550" height="367" name="FLVPlayer" salign="LT"
> type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
> pluginspage="
http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"
/>
> </object>
> </noscript>
>
>
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Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01
Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"
http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
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actually, i can see in that code that you do still have wmode
transparent stuff in there. if you look just a little before
the ending
script tag, you'll see some. and then it's also in one of the
parameter
tags. in fact, you have the wmode=transparent parameter tag,
but not
the one that the instruction i gave you said to put in!
actually, it
doesn't look like you followed the instructions i gave you at
all! at
least not completely.<br>
<br>
i think your best bet might be to just delete the
video from the page
(your code is too messed up for me to figure it out, sorry)
and
re-insert it, then follow the instructions on the link i gave
you. but
you need to do EVERYTHING it says to do, all the way until it
says <strong>"2.
Hiding the <select> element:"<br>
<br>
</strong> if you start fresh and follow those
instructions precisely, i
think it will work!<br>
<br>
just started wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:[email protected]"
type="cite">
<pre wrap="">courtney (n h c) wrote:
quick question: when you did the stuff in the link i gave
you, did you
remember to take out any wmode/transparent stuff that you
already put in
there?
Yes I did take out the wmode/transparent.
This is the code. Thanks.
<script type="text/javascript">
AC_FL_RunContent(
'codebase','<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#">http://download.macr omedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#</a>
version=8,0,0,0','width','550','height','367','id','FLVPlayer','src','FLVPlayer_
Progressive','flashvars','&MM_ComponentVersion=1&skinName=Clear_Skin_3&streamN am
e=videos/2007_fishing_video&autoPlay=true&autoRewind=true','quality','high','sca
le','noscale','name','FLVPlayer','salign','lt','pluginspage','<a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="
http://www.macrome">http://www.macrome</a>
dia.com/go/getflashplayer','movie','FLVPlayer_Progressive','wmode','transparent'
); //end AC code
</script><noscript><object
classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
codebase=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0">"http ://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#ve
rsion=8,0,0,0"</a> width="550" height="367"
id="FLVPlayer">
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/>
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<param name="quality" value="high" />
<param name="scale" value="noscale" />
<param name="wmode" value="transparent" />
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value="&MM_ComponentVersion=1&skinName=Clear_Skin_3&streamName=videos/2007_fi shi
ng_video&autoPlay=true&autoRewind=true"
/>
<embed src="FLVPlayer_Progressive.swf" wmode="opaque"
width="550"
height="367" quality="high"
pluginspage=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="
http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer">"http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" </a>
type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed>
flashvars="&MM_ComponentVersion=1&skinName=Clear_Skin_3&streamName=videos/200 7_f
ishing_video&autoPlay=true&autoRewind=true"
quality="high" scale="noscale"
width="550" height="367" name="FLVPlayer" salign="LT"
type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
pluginspage=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="
http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer">"http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" </a>
/>
</object>
</noscript>
</pre>
</blockquote>
</body>
</html>
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http://www.phonezoo.com/ringtone/90368644/alarm-clock.htm
Note about ringtones with the Kin phones: you can't rename or delete them, as many of you already know. However, when you save a ringtone of the same name onto the phone, it will overwrite the old one. Lesson was, name the ringtones to names you plan on keeping (before you save/send to the phone), although you don't have to worry too much about the actual alarm quality. If you edit it in a way you don't like, you can just re-edit the ringtone and send it as the same name to overwrite it. This helped me, where i created a ringtone that cycles exactly 2 times before the phone goes to voicemail (~9 secs, fyi. and ~24 for a single cycle)
For those 2 alarms, i just called them @Alarm 1 and @Alarm 2. The @ is so they appear at the top of the list. To my knowledge, you can't organize the ringtones into the categories of 'melodies', 'alerts', or 'alarms'. What i did instead is put a symbol in front of the name, so they appear above the list of melodies anyways. To be honest, most/all of the default melodies aren't worth much, although i find that the alerts/alarms are noises that i do like and use. For anything custom, certain symbols 'translate' correctly when transferred to the phone, including ! and @, and others that i didn't try. Ones like * and _ don't work out, the phone translates them to number sequences (_ is 95 or something like that), its just trial and error as to which actually register the symbols. Name it to what you want on the computer, and send it to the phone. You'll recieve it on the Kin, but before saving it, make sure the name is what you want it to be (symbols, caps, spacing, spelling, etc), and if theres errors, change it on the comp and re-send it.
On top of having them sorted above the default melodies, this also allows me to sort them by 'type', aka ! is alarms/alerts, and @ is ringtones. Just my custom way of sorting things, i'm sure numbers work the same too, so theres plenty to cycle through, just put them in front of the ringtone name.
I also added 3 completely silent ringtones to my phone, of different lengths (short, medium, long). On my old phone, i was used to vibrate only, so this is for if i ever decide to make only certain tones vibrate only, i can just set it to the silent ringtone, with vibrate on in the system settings.
Link:
http://www.phonezoo.com/ringtone/205318823/total-silence.htm
just edit it through phonezoo by changing the lengths, and saving them under different names.
Cheers.

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