Mixing 10.4 and 10.5 with Time Machine--not a good idea (?)

I'm planning on installing 10.5 (aka Leopard) in a separate partition to tweak and trial it until its ready for prime time for me (for one thing the new X11 isn't fully up to speed and that's a show stopper for my business use of Leopard).
It occurred to me that since Time Machine (TM) works off file system events in Leopard, it'd be wrong do most of my work in 10.4, occasionally using 10.5 and expect TM to record the changes made whilst working under 10.4.
It seems to me that TM will only "see" changes made under 10.5, not changes made under 10.4. If right (and I can't see why it'd be wrong), you can't mix 10.4, 10.5 and TM and get "sane" backups.
It'd follow, then that I should hold off using TM until running exclusively 10.5--?
Comments welcome. (No flames to Apple please!)
(PS: For techs--I'm simplifying the issue here I know! Trying to write something that's makes halfway sense for others too.)

I believe those paragraphs on their own say that under Tiger, if an application stops "listening" to fs events for a long period of time as the fs events aren't logged and the application has to figure it out for itself, but this is a different time-frame and mechanism that I think TM works off. If you read on, the article will point out that a difference in Leopard is that there is now a log that can be scanned, which I imagine is what TM works off. However, that's only in Leopard, AFAIK.
What is being asked here is a bit more subtle (again, AFAICT!)-- does Leopard know of or learn changes that happened whilst it wasn't in control of the file system and go on to save these?
These can't come from the fs events directly, since there is no mechanism for Tiger to send these to a dormant Leopard that I've read of. There is apparently no fs event log in Tiger, so it can't come from that either. So my guess was that either (a) they'd just be missed or (b) the overall "last time/date modified" or someother file-system-as-a-whole time stamp or checksum is being used to identify that things weren't as they were last TM looked at that filesystem, therefore something must have happened in its absence. This seemed an open question to me... hence my question.
I agree it'd be easiest to just run a few simple tests. I just might wait until I get Leopard and do it myself...!
I wrote the post below before you wrote and forgot to post it, but for the **** of it here's what I wrote:
Maybe I'll have to wait until I installed Leopard and run a few simple tests myself (like the one I posted earlier). In the meantime if anyone does run a test, let us know the result!
gnaegi: I'm aware of how TM stores the data, but thanks for the link. It uses a variant on the hard-link sync approach used by rsync. I was more concerned how TM detects changes in its absence. So as far as I can tell the file system event tracking log file is only in Leopard (Note: the file system events are in Tiger, but AFAIK, not the file sytem event log file; I would like to think that TM works off the log file, not the raw events as Spotlight does. Certainly reading between the lines in Ars article would supports this idea. To my reading anyway )

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