Mixing anamorphic SD and HDV footage--best workflow?

I am about to start an edit of a multicam shoot with mixed HDV and 16x9 Panasonic anamorphic SD footage (from DVX 100 series cams). Any suggestions on best workflow would be useful.
I would like to use the multicam editing feature, which I have used before, but never with mixed footage.
Final delivery will be SD, though I wouldn't mind staying in HD for the edit/CC/EFX.

If you're doing multicam work, I would recommend converting all your footage to a single format before getting started-- generally, you want to convert the lower quality footage to the format of the higher, so in this case, convert all your SD footage to HDV. Alternatively, you could covert everything to an HD ProRes setting (this would be my route).

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I have multiple clips of anamorphic SD and HDV 1080i60 that I need to put together into a sequence. The finished product will be a DVD.
What are the best sequence settings to use?
Should I convert everything to Prores 422 NTSC first, convert the HDV to DV NTSC or ????
Appreciate any suggestions.
Brian

just place the HDV material into the SD 16:9 and it will be fine. it will be a waste of time and drive space to convert the HDV native files to ProRes or DV with no benefit. set the SD TL to use the ProRes codec which will get you the most amount of RT from FCP, that simple.

Mixing DSLR and HDV Footage

I did a short search and did not find anything. Also, I know this is a huge topic - so what I really am looking formis direction. As the title says, I want to mix DSLR footage with HDV footage. Whe should I start?

Just edit in HD(V) and export to whatever you want: BluRay, DVD, web.

Canon HV20 and HDV footage

Hello All,
I recently purchased a Canon HV20, but have only recorded and edited in SD DV.
Today I was reading a clip on the internet that gave me a bit of a surprised. Here is a part of the clip,
[This article was first published in the Sept/Oct, 2007, issue of
Larry's Final Cut Pro Newsletter.]
First, Allan Tépper writes:
I am writing to offer help for Justin Ascott's 24p workflow with the Canon HV20. The 24p recording of the Canon HV20 has much in common with the 24p recording of the Sony HVR-V1.
To answer Justin Ascott specifically: The FCP Easy Setup called HDV-1080/24p will not work with 24p footage from the HV20 or the Sony V1. "
Has anyone here had any experience with FCE and capturing HDV footage from a Canon HV20? Is the statement above true?
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Mike

I wonder why my PAL one doesn't do 24p?
Normal HDV will work perfectly with FCE except it will have to be converted into the Apple Intermediate Codec.
The Easy Setup is "HDV-Apple Intermediate Codec 1080i60".
I don't think shooting in HDV and then converting to SD DV will look any better than normal SD but you will have the HDV master tape which can be used to produce Blu-ray DVDs at a later date when they become cheaper and more popular.
An hour of AIC will take around 40 GB of HD space.
As with everything it is worth doing quick tests involving something unimportant to determine which workflow suits you. Use DVD-RWs when testing to avoid waste.
Remember that you can export your HDV edited project back to tape in your camera and connect it to an HD TV for high definition playback.
I am not too keen on this because of the extra wear it puts on the camera and tape.
Message was edited by: Ian R. Brown

Error message when adding a filter to DV and HDV footage

Hi,
I do not understand why I am getting an error message saying,
" The effect 'refraction, twirl, insect eye' failed to render: Your Hardware cannot render at the requested size and depth"
Can some help me out?
I have a first generation Mac Pro 2..66 with 8gb of ram and the Ati radeon and Nvidia graffics card. This is a high end computer, why can't it render a video filter like refraction and son on?
I tried re-installing FCP and erasing those files in the preferences folder, but still not luck.
To make matters worse the render works on my MacBook Pro (1st gen.) and not on the Mac Pro quad core?
There must be something going on in my settings, is anybody else having this problem?
The footage I am working with are 2 formats, one is DV Ntsc shot with a DVX 100 and the other one I was working with HDV footage.
Why am I not able to render with the hardware power of this monster computer.
Thanks for you help,
Alessandro

Hi Varkgirl,
That would be great but I don't really know where to start with this. Can you help?
Sorry for the delay in responding but I run my own business as well as doing my wife's website.
My email address is [email protected] if you could send me your advice that way if it's ok with you.
Thanks.
Philip

Can I Edit SD and HDV footage at the same time in CS4?

I have a Sony PD 150 camcorder and I'm looking at buying a Sony HDR-HC# HDV 1080i camcorder to use as a second camera on video shoots. Can I edit footage from both cameras on the same timeline in CS4? I'm using a PC, running Windows XP Home Edition, Version 2002 with an Intel (R) Pentium (R) 2.80 GB processor with 2.5 GB of RAM. Thanks!
Lewis B.

Do you already have CS4 ?
CS5 is days away. 9 Days for the first look.
I have a Windows XP 2005 with 3.4GHz with 4GB of ram and it cant handle HDV for HD video.
I have a Sony HVR Z1U and use the in camera down-rez and edit in SD just fine.
Like said before you really need a new computer to edit the HDV but if your going to DVD then your only using SD anyway.
But to answer you question you can mix formats with CS4.
As you can see my system ranks second from last on Bills Benchmark tests.
http://ppbm4.com/Benchmark.html
Take the test to see how your system stacks up.
ENjoy: Glenn

How edit DVCPro HD and HDV footage in the same multi-clip project?

Dear All
I am to edit a music video material shot with two cameras. I received the footage as .mov files, but one file is a DVCPro HD 1080i50 codec and the other is a HDV 1080i50 codec. - It seems the music concert was recorded on two different cameras (I guess one was Panasonic the other Sony).
How can I edit the music video using multi-clip editing? - I guess I will have to reconvert one of the footage-format to match the other format. If so, which conversion assures the best quality: from DVCPro HD to HDV or vice versa?
Or should I ask for the original tapes and then import all as a HDV codec (is that possible with the DVCPro?)?
I have never worked with the DVCPro codec before. So any links further explanations and tutorials are appreciated.
Many thanks,
Hynek

Dear Tom
Thank you for the tip. I converted the DVCPro footage into a HDV file and it looks good. The new file is only 9BG compared to the DVCPro file of 39GB. Quite surprising that such a down-conversion still results in a rather good quality.
Hynek

50i footage best workflow for progressive output (web/youtube) / deinterlace

Hello
The reason I have to work with interlaced footage is that the clips are edited for a TV show as well.
I (usualy) get 1080i @ 50fps clips with fast-paced movement of camera & inside the shot (subject) - car racing.
Editing in Adobe Premiere Pro 5.5
I am struggling with some stutter & sharpness loss & thin interlaced lines (even after exporting as progressive).
The current workflow is:
          - importing inside an AVCHD - 1920x1080 @ 50i sequence
          - edit
          - export as h264 - 1920x1080 @ 25P /Constrant Bit Rate @ 10MB
Results not that great : while the smoothness of motion is preserved there is a visible drop in details quality and still visible thin horizontal lines from the interlaced footage.
Also tried:
          - importing inside an AVCHD - 1920x1080 @ 25P sequence
          - edit
          - select 'Always deinterlace' option inside Field Options box (takes extra some time because i have to do this for each individual clip)
          - export as h264 - 1920x1080 @ 25P /Constrant Bit Rate @ 10MB
Results not that great : stutter motion, more visible drop in details quality and no horizontal lines visible.
My questions are:
     1)What is the best sequence settings for editing 50i settings and exporting for WEB/progressive?
     2)What is the best deinterlace option? ('interpret footage>no field' does not help)
     3)What is the best output/export settings?
Thank you!

You are not using the Youtube preset
Your preset shows that whilst it is h264 some settings have been changed over the default hence CUSTOM showing in the image, it is that you are just outputting a file specifically for your PC/MAC
Other observations
Why are you saving to your C drive? Better to have multiple drives for editing, there are plenty of posts on drive management and setup
Do you have the default Premiere settings for scratch discs etc? These will use your C drive which will soon become filled, or at least overwhelmed with raed and wrtite problems
Why are you saving the file at 10mbps? Especially for motion my PAL HD MP4 progressive settings are 32 ave 40 max mbps

Best "Capture" workflow for projects mixing HDV tape and XDCAM footage

I'm trying to determine the best workflow for projects that combine XDCAM and HDV footage.
I'd obviously do the editing in a project designed for XDCAM, as that's the higher quality footage,
and render the HDV clips in the XDCAM timeline...ending up with an XDCAM end product.
I'd use SONY'S XDCAM TRANSFER to get the clips into FCP.
My question concerns capturing the HDV footage in this scenario. I've never been able to get
the Log and Capture feature for HDV footage to work, unless I've created an HDV project and am capturing into that HDV project.
So, generally, I create an HDV project, open the log and capture utility which is now set to capture HDV, and then capture the footage. I then close that project and create a new project, designed for XDCAM footage. I use XDCAM Transfer to get the XDCAM footage into the project, and I import
the previously captured HDV footage into that browser and start editing, rendering the HDV in the XDCAM timeline.
My question...do I really have to open, what is essentially a "fake" HDV project just to capture that HDV footage? You don't seem to have the option of capturing HDV footage (out of a camera or HDV tape deck) directly into an XDCAM project. If I try to change the capture or audio video settings of the XDCAM project to HDV, you get messages saying you can't do it.
Is there something I'm missing or a more streamlined way of doing this?
Thanks in advance for any input.

No need to jump through these hoops. Just set yourself up with a universal Easy Setup that will handle both. Choose your regular XDCAM HD Easy Setup then open the Audio / Video Settings window and change the Capture Preset to "HDV" and the Device Control Preset to "HDV Firewire" ... then click the "Create Easy Setup" button and save it for recall whenever needed.
Regarding the overall workflow, I'd seriously question the idea of creating XDCAM HD masters. No real benefit to that unless you need to export to XDCAM HD. Much better would be export your final master as Apple ProRes 422.
Best
Andy

The Difinitive HDV & DV Best Practice

What is the best workflow for mixing HDV and DV footage?
The issue of having two different field dominance settings is one of my main concerns.
We use a Sony HDV-FX1E camera for shooting and as our deck.
We would obviously want to keep our videos at at high quality [ ...well as high as can be expected for DV and HDV footage of course ].
A difinitive explaination of all options would be great [for all]!
Regards.

Tks for that advice guys. Re-Sizer looks the best for my future needs, but I probably don't have time to learn it for this project.
From the other reading I've done, if I don't use ReSizer or an equivalent, it seems that to get the best DVD quality I'd be better off creating an SD project and downscaling the HDV footage for that, rather than creating a HDV project and upscaling the SD, and then creating the DVD from that. Compression logic would tell me that upscaling the DV footage in PP and then sending it back down to SD for the DVD mastering is going to result in a lot of ****** looking original DV footage.
Because I'm under severe time-constraints regarding the DVD, I think for this one time-only, I'll do a seperate SD project for the DVD, and then redo it as a HDV project for the Blu-Ray release in a few months.
Sound logical?

What is the best workflow procedure for importing DV SP 16x9 footage into FCP7 and then exporting the best quality 16x9 to standard DVD so that it looks great (or at least good) on a 50" Samsung LCD TV ?????? Please help! anybody?? Thanks!

We are using a Sony HDV-Z7U camera for acquisition. We recently recorded an event using the camera's non HD capabilities. We set the camera to record "DV SP" 16x9 settings on both Mini-DV tape and CF card.
To import the DV SP footage into FCP7 we chose the "DV NTSC anamorphic" setting in the log and transfer settings window. After a successful transfer from the CF card (the CF card held approximately 83 minutes) we checked the size of the file and found it to be 16 Gigs! Why so big? An 83 miniDV tape shot in SD should easily fit on a standard 4.7 gig MPEG2 DVD.
We need to burn DVDs of this show - we sent it to compressor and got horrible quality.
What is the best setting to use in FCP7's log and transfer settings window to import DV SP 16x9 standard def. footage and what is the best method for exporting for outputting this footage to DVD that preserves the original quality of the DV SP footage?? Anyone? Many thanks

> Why so big? An 83 miniDV tape shot in SD should easily fit on a standard 4.7 gig MPEG2 DVD.
No it doesn't. DV is 13GB per hour.
In any case, a Video DVD uses the MPEG 2 codec, not DV.
>What is the best setting to use in FCP7's log and transfer settings window to import DV SP 16x9 standard def.
DV NTSC anamorphic.
>what is the best method for exporting for outputting this footage to DVD...
Use the Compressor DVD preset "Best Quality 90 mins".
>...that preserves the original quality of the DV SP footage?
Not going to happen, you are compressing by a factor of 1:4. Shooting as HDV would have given you better quality material to start with. DV is at the bottom end of the scale.

Best workflow for footage in 1440x1080 and vid rate 23.98fps going to a PAL DVD player in europe

I am new at this and still getting a grasp of the technical details. I've made several trips to Germany over the last three years and each time have shot using different settings. Right now I am editing the footage from the first year where I shot 1080i and 24p (Canon XHA1). I've already sent some DVDs with films I edited from this trip, but not sure I've achieved the best result that I can in terms of image quality. What i think i've been doing so far is to edit in the original NTSC, and then when i get ready to burn the DVD to send to my relatives in Germany, I have set the Project Info settings in iDVD to PAL. But from reading the boards I am getting the sense that there are multiple ways to do this, each with varying results. Obviously, I'd like to have my German viewers view a DVD with the best quality picture, and am wondering what is the best way to go about this. I've also read on the boards that most PAL dvd players will play NTSC, which makes me wonder if burning the DVD with iDVD set to PAL is necessary. I've already been told by one of my relatives who has viewed the same film here in america (burned as NTSC) and in Germany (one I sent burned as PAL), that the PAL versions did not have as good a picture quality. Any suggestions?
Also, if you knew that your primary audience was going to be PAL viewers, and you are shooting with an NTSC camera, what would the ideal settings be? On my canon xha1, my frame rate options are 60i, 30f, and 24f. My 'comp out' options are 480i and 080i/480i. My understanding is 1080i50 would be better for PAL, but 25fps is not an option on my camera.
Thanks,
Paul

Well it must be 24 over 29.97 then because it is working with it. I have been able to create timelines and export quicktime movies, etc. The item properties (in FCE Browser) of the clips definitely say 23.98fps-- as I would expect because I know I had the camera set to 24p. However, the frame rate of the sequences i've been editing on say 29.97. This is without me having made any conscious effort to manipulate any settings for the sequences at the outset-- I didn't even know the sequences had settings for this when i started. I just began dragging and dropping footage out of the browser and it must have automatically set the sequence to 29.97. Who knows what I had the Easy Set up set to when i brought the footage over from my camera two years ago. I knew even less then. Are the settings on Easy Set up critical when bringing the footage onto your computer from your camera? What processes are the Easy set up settings governing?
Even with all of that said, you would recommend burning the DVD as an NTSC? An NTSC in a new PAL DVD player will look better than an NTSC burned as a PAL? I suppose I could send them both versions and see which one looks better.
Thanks for you help Tom.
P.S.
On the true 24p issue, I did find this:
There are many posts out there about the Canon XH A1 not having "true 24p".
I think much of that misinformation out there maybe stemmed from (correct me if I'm wrong):
Canon Frame Mode on the standard DV cams was a "simulation: of the 24 frame look.
The Canon HDV 24p actually records each single frame progressively, but using an interlaced method.

Mixing anamorphic and letterboxed footage

Is it possible to mix anamorphic and letterboxed DV footage in Final Cut?
I have a project that was shot on both formats.
How should I proceed?
Thanks.

And, if I need to, can I convert the final video to true 16x9 anamorphic, so it'll play full screen on a 16x9 monitor or theater screen?
Yes, but it will look like crud. This question gets asked a bunch so there are lots of responses out there explaining why this will be the case.
Oh, and if I need to convert the whole video to 4x3 full screen for intranet distribution, is it possible too? Thanks.
Yes, cropping and/or reducing the size for internet or intranet distribution can be accomplished using Compressor or QTPro.
Good luck.
x

Mixing interlaced and progressive HDV footage?

Is anyone mixing interlaced and progressive footage on a FCP 5 timeline? Would you set the timeline up for progressive or interlaced settings? Would there be any loss in quality? I'm specifically wondering how well the true progressive of the JVC HD100 would combine with the "faux" progressive of the Canon A1.

I was hoping someone else would jump in with answers, because I am not familiar with either camera, and can't give you a definite answer, but I would hazard a guess that if you set both cameras to a 1/30th shutter, you would be able to mix the footage, but it would be very difficult to shoot, because it is such a slow shutter.
Other routes, would be converting the footage using compressors advanced formats conversion, and other tricks on the timeline, with removing fields and blending etc.
I think generally though, if you were going to intercut footage, you would notice it, at some level.
Some tests would help you enormously, as would renting a second camera identical to the first.
Good luck - post back with what worked and what didn't.

5dmk2 and z1 HDV footage

I’m shooting a film which is being shot on a 5dmk2 we have also used a z1e which is a HDV 1080 50i camera. I’m going to be editing it on a macbook pro running final cut studio 2.
The intension is to use the 5donly footage however if we where to mix the HDV and 5d footage what would be the best work flow.
I was intending to transfer the 5d footage to proress using stream clip and I was going to do the edit at 30p and then convert to 25p. If do mix the HDV footage what the best workflow for this?. Thanks for any help

*I read about the Bonsai method for HDV to DVD and that sounds great, but I also read that since I'm going to DVD I might as well down convert to SD and do the rest with anamorphic settings.*
The best approach? I would convert it to ProRes and get the hardware to run it.
Or use a custom preset in Compressor and go to DVCProHD progressive.
It will take forever, but fabulous on a SD DVD.

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