Mixing and Matering with Logics Audio Effects Plugins

I have a general question for those using Logic Pro to mix and perhaps master music. I've had the software for approximately a year-and-a-half. In that time I've auditioned several high-end, third-party, native AU plugins for EQ and compression (Waves SSL, PSP, Sonalksis, etc.) Certainly they sound great. But in the end, I often find myself getting just as good a sound with Logic's own plugs after a little bit of work. It's not as quick, mind you - and you really do have to play to get to know the plugins well because they're capable of some horrible sounds too. But the good stuff is in there.
I see Logic's EQ's and compressors trashed sometimes in forums and I'm wondering if I'm missing something. Yes, I'm familiar with UAD and the quality/authenticity of their emulations. But at the end of the day, all I need is a great sound - not a particular historic sound, as good as some of those may be.
The one thing I haven't been able to hear is Focusrite's Liquid Mix and I'm tempted to buy one just to hear it, with, of course the option to return it if it's nothing special.
So here's what I want to know - and I am just curious. Are any of you out there mixing in the box with just Logic's plugins and really getting great results? Or perhaps mixing with mostly Logic plugins and a few indispensible others (L1 comes to mind). If so, are you mixing pop/rock, R&B, acoustic - basically, something other than electronic/dance?
Thanks

Are any of you out there mixing in the box with just Logic's plugins and really getting great results? Or perhaps mixing with mostly Logic plugins and a few indispensible others
My 'indispensible others' would be Izotope's Ozone, PSP Vintage Warmer and to a lesser extent TriTone's ColorTone Pro.
But in the end, I often find myself getting just as good a sound with Logic's own plugs after a little bit of work. It's not as quick, mind you - and you really do have to play to get to know the plugins well
I agree completely. I'm often reading here that this plug or that gadget is a must have - actually, learning what's already in the Logic Pro suite is often the solution. The essential ingredient are ears, and the ability to know what sound you're looking for, as opposed to twiddling in the hope that you'll come across a happy accident.
because they're capable of some horrible sounds too
If you want to hear some truly awful sounds, Ozone can destroy a mix in short order

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