Mixing PC133 and PC100 memory
I just bought a G4 (Digital Audio) 466. I wanted to add more ram, so I bought a PC 133 512 card. When I checked the system profiler, it shows two cards already installed, one a 128 PC 133, and the other a 128 PC 100. It's working fine, and with the new 512 in it, it's working fine. I believe I read somwhere that with a PC 100 card in it, it will only allow the other PC 133 cards to run at 100 mHz; only as fast as the slowest component. So my question is, is this true? And, is it a noticable difference? If I remove the PC 100 card and just go with the two PC 133 cards, for a total ram of 640 @ 133 mHz, instead of 768 ram @ 100 mHz, will it be faster? Or should I stick with the higher ram count until I can replace it with another PC 133?
Your computer calls for 133 per Mactracker [free download].
My computer calls for 100 but I use 133 because it was easier to find, Thc computer will only run the ram at 100.
If your computer is running fine with what you have, don't worry.
My understanding is that the computer board calls for the RAM speed, thus if it calls for 100 then the 133 will run at 100. The ram only responds to the computer not the other ram. However, at the low cost of ram you could easily replace one slower stick with a new 133 one. Go for a 512mb module then you will see a real difference.
Confusing, go to www.crucia.com and ask their tech support.
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Hey all, new to the Mac Pro game...
Just bought an 8 core Early 2009 Mac Pro Tower! got it for a crazy amazing deal...
so any way... I have the following issue.
My system came with 8GB 4 x 2Gb memory
they are as follows
Hynix 2GB 2Rx8 PC3-8500E-7-10-E0
they all work fine
So I purchased the following to add an aditional 8GB
Samsung 2 x 4GB 2Rx4 PC3-8500R-07-10-E1-D2
They also work just fine
BUT here is where I have a problem, If i put say the 4 GB in slot 1 and 4 then the others in slost 2,3,5,6 system wont boot just get a blinking light
tried every combo I can think of... anyone know why or can point me in the right direction?
Also can i use the 1333 mhz ECC memroy as I have a line on 32gb for a good price.. I asume it will just downclock... I am used to PC's very new to Mac Pros
Thanks for any helpThe blinking power light says, "Not enough working RAM to start up".
If the R stands for Registered (they have a buffer register on the output) that kind does not play nice with any other kinds.
So you always try each kind by itself to see what seems to be working first. (which it appears you did.)
So the new ones may NEVER work with the old ones.
Some kinds of memory do NOT clock down happily when you try to run them at slower speeds -- they simply don't work. So do not assume they will all clock down.
Macs are very, very fussy about memory. so the best advice is to buy from a Vendor who knows Macs, and you tell the Vendor your Model, and they send you RAM guaranteed to work:
"It works in your Mac,
or your money Back."
In the 2009 and later models of Silver Tower, the first three sockets on each side are independent, and can be filled by the each. Matched triples offers slightly better speeds than other combinations, but not by much. Slots 3 and 4 on each side are shared, so adding a DIMM there gives a miniscule slowdown. Having enough memory to do your work will more than compensate for any slowdown. -
Mixing ECC and NECC (Non-ECC) RAM Modules
Hi,
I have a G5 Dual Core 2.0 with a pair of 512Mb Non-ECC (NECC) RAM installed and I want to upgrade to 3Gb. I'm thinking of getting 2Gb ECC modules and discarding the 1Mb NECC installed. But I came across a phrase in the Apple Manual of my G5 that states "DO NOT MIX ECC and NON-ECC Memory Modules WITHIN A PAIR." Does that mean I can mix ECC and NECC within Memory Banks and NOT within a PAIR? Because in that case I won't have to discard my NECC 1Gb and have a mixed 3Gb Memory!? I'm afraid to actually try it so I would appreciate your insights. Thanks much.
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So I'm looking at options. We know that there are significant differences between say a Z1 and a 350 but from my research so far and from some relatively simple testing mixing Z1 footage (native) and 350 footage on FCP, at least editing on the timeline doesn't seem like it's going to present any problems (although thoughts on that welcome).
The issue seems to be outputting. In the first instance we'll be outputting to SD DVD. Yes, that old gem...
Searching round various forums, it seems this problem (HDV - SD) is fairly universal. Solutions seem to range from not working in Native HDV (suggestions vary on the format to ingest in - AIC etc); outputting to different formats first (eg DVCPro HD) and then to MPEG-2; outputting the timeline to tape (DV), re-importing; using some thing like a Matrox MXO to output and others...
We're aware of the shortcoming of HDV and the compressed nature of the format and our expectations, given our kit are realistic. I've even tried putting some PD150 footage on the timeline but that's just not going to cut it.
So, I've got to put a kit list together by next week and wondered if anyone had any thoughts on:
1) Mixing XDCAM and HDV on the timeline and any gotchas we should watch out for.
but more importantly
2) Any suggested routes I can look at to get some reasonable output with these two formats on the timeline - particularly HDV (don't think we'll have time to look at the Matrox route right now).
Many thanks in advance for any thoughts.
CheersThanks Andy, Michael
That's good input. From an editing point of view we seem to be ok. Although, Michael, I take your point and that's a good suggestion.
The main problem is the workflow to create a decent SD DVD without the artefacts caused by compression/motion etc in HDV (and to some extent XDCAM).
Have read the prores whitepaper at
http://images.apple.com/finalcutstudio/resources/whitepapers/L342568A_ProResWP.pdf
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The white paper seems to suggest that converting to ProRes, because it uses I frame–only encoding "Ensures consistent quality in every frame and no artifacts from complex motion. "
We'll try some tests but, does anyone know if this is true?
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Mixing static and dynamic content in a single outputText value causes NPEs
Hi,
I am having a problem and I'm wondering if it is a result of my error or if this is a bug.
I am mixing dynamic and static content in the value attribute of tags (e.g., outputText). On initial page load, everything works fine. However, if the same view is reloaded (e.g., after a failed validation) I get an NPE from JSF:
[#|2006-10-24T08:49:03.756-0500|SEVERE|sun-appserver-pe8.2|javax.enterprise.system.container.web|_ThreadID=12;|StandardWrapperValve[Faces Servlet]: Servlet.service() for servlet Faces Servlet threw exception
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at javax.faces.component.UIComponentBase.encodeChildren(UIComponentBase.java:701)
at com.sun.faces.renderkit.html_basic.HtmlBasicRenderer.encodeRecursive(HtmlBasicRenderer.java:445)
at com.sun.faces.renderkit.html_basic.GridRenderer.encodeChildren(GridRenderer.java:233)
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at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:247)
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at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:157)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.invoke(ApplicationDispatcher.java:723)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.processRequest(ApplicationDispatcher.java:482)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.doForward(ApplicationDispatcher.java:417)
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at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher$PrivilegedForward.run(ApplicationDispatcher.java:95)
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at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor202.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:585)
at org.apache.catalina.security.SecurityUtil$1.run(SecurityUtil.java:249)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at javax.security.auth.Subject.doAsPrivileged(Subject.java:517)
at org.apache.catalina.security.SecurityUtil.execute(SecurityUtil.java:282)
at org.apache.catalina.security.SecurityUtil.doAsPrivilege(SecurityUtil.java:165)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:257)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.access$000(ApplicationFilterChain.java:55)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain$1.run(ApplicationFilterChain.java:161)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:157)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:263)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:551)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invokeInternal(StandardContextValve.java:225)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:173)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:551)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:170)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:551)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:132)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:551)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:933)
at org.apache.coyote.tomcat5.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:189)
at com.sun.enterprise.web.connector.grizzly.ProcessorTask.doProcess(ProcessorTask.java:604)
at com.sun.enterprise.web.connector.grizzly.ProcessorTask.process(ProcessorTask.java:475)
at com.sun.enterprise.web.connector.grizzly.ReadTask.executeProcessorTask(ReadTask.java:371)
at com.sun.enterprise.web.connector.grizzly.ReadTask.doTask(ReadTask.java:264)
at com.sun.enterprise.web.connector.grizzly.TaskBase.run(TaskBase.java:281)
at com.sun.enterprise.web.connector.grizzly.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:83)My code looks like this:
<h:outputText escape="false"
value='<link href="#{myBean.styleSheet}" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />' />If I replace this with a much more convoluted set of tags, it works:
<h:outputText escape="false"
value='<link href="' /><h:outputText escape="false" value="#{myBean.styleSheet}"
/><h:outputText escape="false" value='" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />' />So is the problem that I am mixing dynamic and static content with a single value? If so, why does it work on the first view, and not after?
If it matters, I'm using the reference implementation version 1.1 (as included with NetBeans 5.5RC2) on SuSE 10.0 w/ JDK 1.5_09.
Thanks,
BillYes, that's how I originally had it, but then changed it to the outputText approach since a single tag could do what I wanted, as long as I was allowed to mix static and dynamic content within a single value.
I think this is a bug in JSF 1.1, since if what I am doing is illegal, it should throw an exception on the first page view, not work on first view and throw an exception on subsequent views. I'm guessing that this has something to do with the fact that on first page view it only runs the restore view and render response JSF phases, while on subsequent requests all of the phases will be run, and it's in one of those other phases that the exception is thrown.
For now, multiple tags is the work-around, I guess.
Thanks,
Bill -
C240 M3 Stuck at "Configuring and testing memory .."
Hi,
This server's just been returned to us from Cisco, who had it on loan since it was new. We're trying to put it back into service, but have hit the following problem.
On first power-up the server gets as far as the "Configuring and testing memory .." message. Just that message, it doesn't show any progress in actually testing memory. After a few seconds it shuts itself down, then spins up again, repeating that a couple of times before sitting with the "Configuring and testing memory .." message at the top of the screen, but now also showing CIMC IP address at the bottom. All four LEDs above the power button show steady green, and the unit ID buttons switch the blue LED on/off as they should.
I can get to the CIMC login screen, but the password's been changed from default so can't get any further in that direction until we find out the new user/password details. Unless someone knows how to reset CIMC to default.
I've tried the following recovery steps ..
(1) If we set the "Clear CMOS" jumper J2065, the server won't power up. It powers up to standby, but does not respond on pressing the power button.
(2) Using the "BIOS recovery" jumper J2068 doesn't appear to have any effect, the server does not read the recovery file from USB flash drive.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Tony SCheers. There's not much to reseat at this stage. The server came back with two CPUs of unknown type, I've removed and set those aside in case they're some sort of weird CPU that needs a special memory configuration.
We've fitted a single E5-2609 as CPU1 and single DIMM in A1. There are no PCI cards or anything else to reseat. As a matter of fact the server behaves exactly the same if there's no memory at all, making me think it's hanging up before starting the memory check.
I would love to get into the CIMC, but does anyone know a way to reset the username/password other than via the BIOS screens (which aren't accessible).
Thanks, Tony S -
Adding a jar to the classpath of an executable jar (mixing -jar and -cp)
Hello,
frankly I hesitated over posting this to "New to Java"; my apologies (but also, eternal gratefulness) if there is an ultra-simple answer I have overlooked...
I integrate a black-box app (I'm not supposed to have the source) that comes packaged as an executable jar (with a Manifest.MF that specifies the main class and a bunch of dependent jars), along with a few dependent jars and a startup script. Long story short, the application code supports adding jars in the classpath, but I can't find a painless way to add a jar in its "classpath".
The app's "vendor" (another department of my customer company) has a slow turnaround on support requests, so while waiting for their suggestion as to how exactly to integrate custom jars, I'm trying to find a solution at the pure Java level.
The startup script features a "just run the jar" launch line:
java -jar startup.jarI tried tweaking this line to add a custom jar in the classpath
java -cp mycustomclasses.jar -jar startup.jarBut that didn't seem to work ( NoClassDefFound at the point where the extension class is supposed to be loaded).
I tried various combination of order, -cp/-classpath, using the CLASSPATH environment variable,... and eventually gave up and devised a manual launch line, which obviously worked:
java -cp startup.jar;dependency1.jar;dependency2.jar;mycustomclasses.jar fully.qualified.name.of.StartupClassI resent this approach though, which not only makes me have to know the main class of the app, but also forces me to specify all the dependencies explicitly (the whole content of the Manifest's class-path entry).
I'm surprised there isn't another approach: really, can't I mix -jar and -cp options?
- [url http://download.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/tools/windows/classpath.html]This document (apparently a bible on the CLASSPATH), pointed out by a repited forum member recently, does not document the -jar option.
- the [url http://download.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/deployment/jar/run.html]Java tutorial describes how to use the -jar option, but does not mention how it could play along with -cp
Thanks in advance, and best regards,
J.
Edited by: jduprez on Dec 7, 2010 11:35 PM
Ahem, the "Java application launcher" page bundled with the JDK doc (http://download.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/tools/windows/java.html) specifies that +When you use [the -jar] option, the JAR file is the source of all user classes, and other user class path settings are ignored+
So this behavior is deliberate indeed... my chances diminish to find a way around other than specifying the full classpath and main class...I would have thought that the main-class attribute of the JAR you name in the -jar option is the one that is executed.Then I still have the burden of copying that from the initial startup.jar's manifest. Slightly less annoying than copying the whole Class-path entry, but it's an impediment to integrating it as a "black-box".
The 'cascading' behavior is implicit in the specification
I know at least one regular in addition to me that would issue some irony about putting those terms together :o)
Anyway, thank you for confirming the original issue, and merci beaucoup for your handy "wrapper" trick.
I'll revisit the post markers once I've actually tried it.
Best regards,
Jérôme -
K9A2 Platinum and 4 Memory Modules
Hey gang, the saga continues.
BIOS 1.2
With Vista Enterprise x64 SP1 RC and 4x DDR2-800 OCZ modules (see my signature) my system will POST but not boot properly (even in safe mode!) at either 3-4-4-15-2T-2.4V or at 5-5-5-15-2T-2.4V. It gets almost to the point where it wants to bring up the vista logo after loading all the drivers however then the screen resets to "no signal" and the system reboots from POST.
I removed 2 of the memory modules, leaving 2 in the slots closest to the CPU. At 3-4-4-15-2T-2.4V (which is what the memory is rated for) the ATI kernel driver gets a page fault during load, blue screen, memory dump. However at 5-5-5-15-2T-2.4V the system is stable. I expected 2 memory modules to work at the rated speed of the memory. I expected 4 memory modules to work at looser timings. I'll try 5-5-5-18-2T-2.4V with 4 modules just to see.
I'm getting 8GB/s throughput in Sandra XII at 5-5-5-15-2T-2.4V.
With BIOS P.0D I was getting 9.5GB/s at 5-5-5-18-2T-2.3V with the mushkin XP8500.
Maybe P.0D doesn't have the erratum in it, and tighter memory controller timings.
Oh and the Sandra disk benchmark test posted a RAID0 score of 140.5 MB/s throughput. WD360JD was 55 MB/s. I need to run a better benchmark though. I bought EVEREST Personal Ultimate, maybe it'll have something more useful in it. I can tell you the EVEREST benchmarks for memory performance on my system absolutely suck. They're pinning it around midrange in all the tests. :< I cannot run HDTach on this system because it doesn't recognize me as an Administrator (although I am one).
I have my final water cooling parts arriving on Wednesday - an inline temperature sensor which will hang right off the egress on the video card stack, for accurate CPU + video card heat levels on the liquid for the fan control.
At idle this system keeps the CPU at 99F temp, HD at 105F (I removed the front case fan, it would probably be cooler with it in there, but slightly noisier). Memory therefore is probably around 102F. I haven't gotten to stress testing yet because of the stability issues.
I also am trying Catalyst 8.1 beta to see if CrossFireX will work.
** At least the system is POSTing BOOTing **Quote from: MagnumMan on 15-January-08, 21:25:47
AaronYuri: Using Vista Enterprise x64 SP1 RC, no fixes come up through Windows Update, I assume I have everything... point me to something that wouldn't be in the service pack RC?
Quad: So you think with an X2 CPU this wouldn't be a problem, but the Phenom is inferior?
Russ: I'm using fixed memory voltage as specified in the test. 2.4V and 2.1V. Both of which should have worked. Since I can do DDR2-800 2x 3-4-4-15-1T-2.4V stable (running Prime95 now...), I would expect to be able to do DDR2-533 5-5-5-18-2T-2.1V. Also this board originally posted with the memory at DDR2-1066 5-7-7-20-2T-2.4V so I know the memory isn't the issue.
One additional comment I would like to add to this discussion is that with all 4 memory modules loaded I can install the Vista operating system. It is only after I reboot, after the initial install, that it won't complete the boot cycle any longer. So the install boot works (which is probably a limited kernel?) but the real thing won't work.
As for DDR2-400 I might give it a try but I have to say if that's the only way I could do 4gb memory, I wouldn't do it.
Hello, I have the SAME sort of problems except with the K9A Platinum
Here is the fix/update they are talking about
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777/en-us
I have applied it and did not work for me. You are getting a BSOD likely. Boot to 2gb, go to System Settings under Control Panel. Click Advanced Setting on the left. Then click Settings button under Startup and recovery. UN-check automatically restart. You may then see the BSOD when you try booting with 4gb again.
I a using latest bios on my MSIK9A and I still cannot boot Windows to 4gb.
I have read thru all 20 pages here:
http://forums.microsoft.com/technet/showpost.aspx?postid=1292561&siteid=17&sb=0&d=1&at=7&ft=11&tf=0&pageid=10
Even though I do not run 64bit, this still seems to be a very common problem with running 4gb on 32bit and 64bit. It is not just a Windows problem. I have read Linux has exhibited this as well.
I even did a clean install of Vista on a spare drive last night with only 2gb installed. I then updated all drivers in order and then applied MS Hotfix I linked to above. I shutdown, put in all 4gb and BAM!! same exact BSOD. I have tried setting timings to many different settings. I have tried all "suggested fixes" to no avail. All 4gb of Memory all passes memtest86 v1.7 scans. Ran 17 passes overnight and all passed. -
Difference between free and inactive memory?
I'm really just wondering what the difference is between inactive, and free memory. Right now, I have about 13MB of free memory, and 381MB of inactive memory. Is the inactive memory just on reserve in case the computer absolutely needs it? Is there any way to utilize this "inactive" memory to speed up the computer? Thanks.
Read the following:
<font "size=+1">About OS X Memory Management and Usage
Reading system memory usage in Activity Monitor
Memory Management in Mac OS X
Performance Guidelines- Memory Management in Mac OS X
A detailed look at memory usage in OS X
Understanding top output in the Terminal
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In OSX Activity Monitor, what's the difference between 'free' memory and 'inactive' memory
In OS X Activity Monitor, what's the difference between 'free' memory and 'inactive' memory. My daughters 2Gb MacBook Pro is very slow, it probably needs more memory but there is almost 1Gb of 'inactive' memory but no 'free' memory when an application is opened.
ThanksFree RAM is the one that has not been used by any application since you started up your Mac, and inactive RAM is the one that was used by an application and it is not in use anymore.
1 GB of inactive RAM is a lot, and it may be the cause of the slowness. There are a lot of apps that allows you to turn inactive into free RAM. I use FreeMemory, but have a look at the Mac App Store.
If you are a developer, you can do that with a command you can type into Terminal:
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HI, I HAVE A MacBook Pro 2.3GHz dual-core Intel i5 AND I WAN'T TO UPGRADE THE HARD DRIVE UP TO 750GB AND ALSO THE RAM MEMORY TO 8GB. WHAT SPECIFIC MODEL OF HARD DRIVE AND RAM MEMORY SHOULD I BUY??? THANKS
No need to type in all caps - we HEAR you!
I would take a look at the internal drives offered by both Crucial (click the link "Internal Hard Drives Now Available") and OWC. I would stay away from Western Digital drives as they seem to have problems on a number of Mac models.
You can also shop for RAM at Crucial and OWC - just select the System Scanner tab at the Crucial website to find out which memory is right for your machine.
Good luck,
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648 max , testing base and extended memory
I dont see the thread i answered to one time that someone spoke of using ddr400 with 648 max or max-L board and they were getting testing base and extended memory error from the LED's. Well i just got the same error today and my system would not boot i cut the power to the PS. and turned it back on it would start to boot and hang i could barely get to the windows logo sometimes the vid card wouldnt even boot the logo to the screen. This is with an updated mobo that msi sent me that i had just put in , it seemed to run fine at first then this problem started occuring. The only difference i had in the setup from the previous outdated board was i had the mem in DIMM 3 and not DIMM 1, so i moved the memory back over to DIMM 3 and now the problem is gone. Just something for those of you with the same problem to try.
Oh and i forgot one more issue, i cannot set the dram speed in the bios manually i have ddr 333 it should be 167 mhz so i set it to 4/5 and the system will not boot at all i end up having to reset cmos. I called MSI about that and they told me to just have it set to SPD , I said i know that and im fine with leaving it that way but it should let me set it manually if i wanted to and that i wondered if that had anything to do with the random " testing base and extended memory " problem.It was probably myt thread...
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/e_service/forum/viewindex.php?threadid=6204&boardid=10&styleid=1
Have done some testing with both DDR333 and DDR400 and my results are in the thread.
Right no I'm using my DDR400 as DDR333, manually set to 167MHz, using DIMM1, and havn't seen any problems. I'll try the DIMM3 to see if I get any changes.
And by the way.. I tried setting my DDR400 manually to 200MHz and it wouldn't boot at all. After a lot of ugly language I finally got it back to the BIOS....after a reset of the CMOS.
Seams like you should use SPD if you want to use the correct freq for your RAM.
Have you tested the new 1.3 BIOS? -
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Anyone had the same problem?Same problem here, but I found a solution that worked for me:
Altered from original solution from Emily P:
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