MM Subcontracting with material applied by vendor

Dear all ,
I have to input into Subcontrating Purchase order a new line to represent the material applied by vendor. The problem of this scenario is that I must put the value of this material applied(second line of PO) as part of costs of main item.
I could not use condition at pricing to simulate this into the MIRO.
Does anyone know this scenario ? How could I do that in this way ?
best regards,
Ale

Hi dear Charlie !
thx for your reply !
Well I could not use delivery costs conditions at pricing because after that I must use by one brazilian fiscal requirement use the additional item at PO to open at "Nota fiscal" that is a fiscal document valid here in Brazil , and I use it on MIRO.
Thx for your quick reply.
best regards,
Ale

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