Modelling different workflow-options

Hi,
There is a wiki which tells us the different work-flow options you can use:
SAP Business Workflow,
Guided Procedures
Collaboration tasks
ccBPM
etc.
Question1: is the a comprehensive tool to model these different altogether or do we need SAP Business Workflow's own modelling tool, UML for guided procedures, ? for Collaboration tasks and BPMN for BPEL separately (I hope it's not...).
Question 2: How does ARIS EPC's relate to this: the EPC is used for business-modelling. This should be the starting point for configurating different workflow-options, (using different models?).
Greetings Theo

Hi Theo,
I've nothing to hide but that quote was taken from an internal SAP mail so it wasn't polished for forum publication.
Just to clarify - I agree with your description of the layers.
I believe that a bpx working in an SAP environment should be aware of the tools (and approximate capabilities) at their disposal as well as basic functionality in the underlying business components deployed.
I believe that any question along the lines of "how do you do this with..tool A" is definitely not for the bpx forum. It should go in the relevant tools forum. Seeing as most of these posts are related to SAP Business Workflow or BAM or XI then they should go in the SAP NetWeaver BPM forum. There is also a CAF forum for guided procedures and a Visual Composer forum for VC and other forums for the other tools (such as BI). I.e. No need to create a new forum, just direct these tool posts to the tools forums.
I don't know whether BPMN or UML can really be understood by the business experts. In my experience white-boarding and flow-charts work pretty well but maybe the business experts have become more process savvy (which is why we want to offer certification).
Experience in a process automation project is a must, and knowledge about why this process is being done in such-and-such a way (e.g. 6-Sigma understanding) is also a must.
The BPX can reach level 1 from either level 1 or level 3. Philip Kisloff's BPX article is an excellent demonstration of level 3. Yes, he did use workflow to solve the problem but he had his bpx glasses on when he wrote the article.
<a href="/people/alan.rickayzen/blog/2006/11/03/business-process-expertise-and-workflow-engineering--distinction-and-overlap:///people/alan.rickayzen/blog/2006/11/03/business-process-expertise-and-workflow-engineering--distinction-and-overlap href="https://www.sdn.sap.comhttp://www.sdn.sap.comhttp://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/40b651cb-a662-2910-ac8c-afcd3073126f">BPX article</a>
<a href="/people/philip.kisloff/blog/2006/12/10/how-to-structure-hard-to-automate-business-processes">BPX blog as discussion board for article</a>
Here's my opinion in all it's glory
<a href="/people/alan.rickayzen/blog/2006/11/03/business-process-expertise-and-workflow-engineering--distinction-and-overlap:///people/alan.rickayzen/blog/2006/11/03/business-process-expertise-and-workflow-engineering--distinction-and-overlap
All the best,
Alan

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