Moderate Nat On PS4 & Xbox One

Hello There!
As the title says my PS4 and Xbox One Are both Having Moderate Nat Problems And Im Pulling My Hair Out, Any Help ?

G33MAN wrote:
Yeah but did you do the multiplayer test and then hold all the bumper buttons and the two triggers ? It works just google xboxx one wireless issues and one of the very first links is by MS telling people to do this to open the nat.
Yes but this is only temporary.
As soon as you restart even in energy saving mode the nat goes moderate again.
I am using wired as well so the problem isn't just with wireless.
I think the xbox one has major UPnP bugs that makes it incompatible with the bthomehubs.
The only NAT I can get to stay open is call of duty ghosts. Thats through port forwarding port 3075.
But the xbox one dashboard is having problems even though I port forwarded port 3074.
I think the problem is that the home hub overwrites this port forward rule whenever I switch on my xbox 360 as the xbox 360 opens port 3074 by UPnP. I still get open NAT on the 360 suggesting the home hub has allowed the 360 to steal port 3074 which is when I start getting the nat problems on xbox one.
Oh and can someone with a bit of knowledge explain what this cone NAT is and whether it is a problem?

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WRT1900AC Problem With open NAT with multiple Xbox One's

I am starting a new thread for some possible help with this. I have just recently replaced my r7000 with the wrt1900ac router and for the life of me cannot get my 2 xbox ones in the house to have open nat. Only one of them will show open NAT. Anyone get this to work and work 100% of the time? I have reseverved the IP's. I tried port forwarding.. I tried putting one in the dmz. I have tried port triggering. None of it works. One will be open the other stays at moderate. I have got it in strict before as well. I have upnp on. I cannot figure out what is wrong with it. Ideas? Also It seems my router reboot on its own and turning the LED's off after a reboot the wireless led's come on. Seems like a bug.

Hewligun, found this on another Linksys thread, it appears that Linkysy may need to update their UPnP and all should be good. Original thread:Packet Dropping thread Excerpt from thread: Re: WRT1900AC packet dropping[ New ] Options ‎05-01-2014 06:16 PM I did some research. Microsoft documents that port forwarding will only work for the one xBox in the forwarding rule. In the same document it mentions that the only way to have two xBoxes running at the same location behind a router is with UPnP. The UPnP protocol has be the newest version in order for it to work. I guess the WRT1900AC is running a later version of UPnP in which case a firmware upgrade will solve this. Keep in mind that Microsoft xBox Live itself is having documented issues as well so we can't really know for sure if the UPnP on the WRT1900 is the newer version or not at this point. Look at the affect services in the current xBox Live status: Affected platforms:Xbox Onexbox one outage;Social and Gaming,Xbox 360xbox 360 outage;Social and Gaming, Affected services:Accessing all game featuresJoining other Xbox Live members in online gamesPosting game performance or viewing the performance of other Xbox Live members https://support.xbox.com/en-CA/xbox-live-status
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Open NAT problems with Xbox One .

When I first got my 1900ac I used Media Priortization to get an open NAT for Call of Duty Advanced Warfare on my Xbox One ; prioritizing the Xbox . It worked fine for about 6 months until I changed cable/net provider to Nextech in Ks. This company uses the 1900ac to hook up it's system for all it's customers ( since I already had one they're using mine ). Unfortunately I'm unable to get an open NAT in this game anymore ; I've tried just about everything , NAT forwarding , triggering , Media Prioritization . Nextech support & Xbox Live support , useless . Tried Portforward . com , nothing . Forwarding port 53 cuts off net connection & doing the static ip change for Xbox didn't help . Almost everything I've looked at seems out of date & I'm at my wits end . It would seem by now Linksys should have solutions available , any ideas ?

Thank you chin_pamz13 for your response . I tried to check if my modem had a public or private ip address but I'm not sure how to do that ; I've read about double NAT's elsewhere . Regardless , I think I've finally found a solution that seems to be working so far . I went to the website " tech - recipes . com " & found an article , " Xbox One open NAT " by Aaron St. Clair . I tried his first suggestion about port triggering , with extra ports I had'nt seen before . That did not work for me so I followed his instructions for putting the Xbox in the DMZ & it's working ! I think my problems from before were the result of improperly setting up the static ip address for my router & Xbox . Previous instructions had me changing the ip in the console along with the router ; Aaron said not to do so in the Xbox , let the router do the work it's supposed to do & make sure the settings in the console are on automatic . In the router at the DMZ , I was'nt sure how to proceed , but at the bottom is a section labeled DHCP reservations list ; clicked on that , saw XboxOne , clicked on that & it filled out the MAC address above for me . Then I went to the Xbox network settings , advanced settings & clicked " automatic " at ip address , subnet & DNS . I checked mutiplayer connections & did the " hold bumper & trigger buttons " trick & finally got an open NAT ; fired up CoD Advanced Warfare & got the open NAT there also . I may have screwed up when I did the port triggering but since the DMZ fix seems to work I'm going to leave things alone . Hope this helps others with open NAT problems .

Xbox One Strict NAT won't switch to Open

Linksys Model: Linksys EA6350-4A
I have set up a DMZ with the correct settings, reset both my cable, linksys, and xbox, yet it still shows up as strict. When I tried port forwarding, my wiFi goes to ****, and my xbox still stays on strict. I would appreciate some help with this as I have already reset my router (which I just bought two days ago) to factory settings about 4 different times already.
EDIT: This is also on a WIRED connection to the Xbox.

Your ISP modem has NAT so your in a double NAT condition which isn't recommended:http://na.smc.com/products/residential/voice/smcd3gnv/ If the modem can't be bridged then see if the modem has a DMZ option and input the IP address the router gets from the modem and put that into the modems DMZ. Be sure to disable all other filters and firewalls on the ISP modem. Configure the 6350 router for Port Range Triggering :https://community.linksys.com/t5/Wireless-Routers/Open-NAT-problems-with-Xbox-One/td-p/944929/page/2 Setup a reserved IP address for the xbox at 192.168.1.199 on the router then reboot the router. Performe a Network Setting Factorty reset on the xbox. Turn Off the xbox then back on then chk NAT status. You should get OPEN, however if the ISP modem is doing any processing then you could see moderate...

Xbox One Portfowarding on WRT310N to get NAT open

https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/networking/network-ports-used-xbox-live
Can someone help me out with this? Ive tried with single port and the port forwarding but my NAT is still moderate.

Read the entire thread in link below. It mentions/speculates that the UPnP for Xbox one is not compatible with many routers. I would say that is a really good speculation. The NAT/UPnP problem has been reported with some linksys, netgear and asus routers. The problem is linksys and netgear are really slow about updating firmware. Sometimes they won't update at all. Asus, on the other hand, updates frequently and will most certainly release an updated version of UPnP to be compatible with xbox one , if they haven't already. I'm not sure if dlink routers are having the same UPnP/NAT problem with Xbox one. Some googling would be probably reveal more.
http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/xbox_one_support/f/4267/p/1627170/4384186.aspx

Moderate NAT

I am only getting a moderate nat on my xbox. How can I get it to an open NAT?
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there was over 10,000 links in the google search... I garuntee one of them on the first page had the answer... there was even a youtube video that someoene made with step by steps......
But gratz on searching... that was the point anyways
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HH5 and Xbox One - randomly open and moderate NAT

Having this annoying problem where the NAT keeps showing as randomly open and moderate. I have set a static I.p for it with no luck so far. I can switch it on and off a dozen times and it can show open, then be turned on the next dozen times and be moderate.
The odd thing is that I have a PS4 and Xbox 360 attached and they both show as always having an open NAT. All devices are connected wired. Tearing my hair out over this. I can't recall the last time I had to mess around with static I.p's a d whatnot. Everything just worked with my old Virginia set up. I do a fair bit of online gaming and so having an open Nat is important to me as even moderate with xbox live can be a real nuisance. Thanks for any help.

Well after googling non stop since around 4am this morning I have found what I think the problem is - and that makes the most sense.
I can't port forward because the HH5 has assigned some of the ports to my Xbox 360 (this was with me only using upnp and NOT having tried any port forwarding) and so now it won't let me manually assign those ports to my Xbox one - hence the error message that I'm getting.
The worst part is, that upnp SHOULD open those ports as needed when I switch my Xbox One on (I live alone and so both machines are never conencted at the same time) but it isn't, because for some reason it is keeping the shared ports solely for the Xbox 360.
So I was trying to manually assign those ports with port forwading to force it to open those same ports on my Xbox One...but so far I haven't got as far as doing any port forwading whatsoever.
I had a router with DD-WRT firmware on my old Virgin connection, and that allowed me to open whatever ports I wanted to whatever device I wanted, but it didn't matter because upnp worked properly on it. Unlike the HH5 which after all my reading has the same problems going back as far as the HH2. The internet is awash with people who couldn't get upnp or port forwading to work how it should.
So far the only people gettng a stable open NAT seem to be those with one Xbox or the other, but NOT both. Which is ridiculous and only seems to affect home hub users.

WRT610Nv2 nat moderate on xbox one... HELP

Cant find any help on setting up my xbox one with my WRT610Nv2 xbox one.
most posts ive found are dealing with the xbox 360.
the nat is set to moderate whilst the i need an open nat to communicate with my cohorts.
tried port forwarding but couldnt find anything relating to the xbox one just the 360
Getting ready to take the thing skeet shooting.
Can anyone please point me in the right direction and save my poor router from a firey death of target loads and bourbon?

discom911,
Check this link: http://kb.linksys.com/Linksys/GetArticle.aspx?docid=2902de6218ed4dc1a4c595595ca1f60a_Resolving_NAT_T...
Title: Resolving NAT type issues with gaming consoles through a Linksys router
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BT Hub 3 xbox one moderate nat type

Ever since I got an xbox one it's been stuck on moderate nat type meaning I lag everywhere. How do I change this to open?

02hudsond wrote:
how do i do that and yes i play black ops call of duty
Look at my answer on this thread https://community.bt.com/t5/Other-Broadband-Queries/Xbox-one-moderate-NAT-on-Homehub-5/m-p/1109194/h...
This is actually for the xbox one but with slight alterations you can do the same on ps3.
Change the port forwarded to 3074 instead of 3075 and instead of finding xboxsystemos look for the ps3.
EDIT:
I'll list the steps again making changes that should work with ps3 although I can't confirm because I dumped my hh5 a few months ago due the fact that I now have 4 games consoles and the hub UPnP is so poor I had to buy a new router.
First switch off ps3 then open a web browser on your PC.
First go into the hub settings by typing bthomehub.home in the address bar. If that doesn't work then try typing 192.168.1.254.
Click advanced settings. Type in password if asked then click go to advanced settings.
Click 'Home Network'
Then find the ps3 in the network diagram. I can't remember if it is listed as ps3 or unknown
Where it says always use this IP address click 'Yes' then click Apply.
Next Click the Firewall tab then click port forwarding.
Click 'Manage games and applications'
Click 'Add new game or application'
Where it says game or application name just type COD ps3
Where it says Copy an existing game or application click 'No'
Where it says protocol leave as 'Any'
In the port range setting type 3074 - 3074
leave translate to blank then click add
Click apply then OK.
Go back to main port forwarding screen then where it says Game or application click the arrow in the drop down box and select COD PS3. In the device box select the ps3
Then click add then click Apply.
Switch ps3 back on and try testing connection to make sure you have nat type 2
Also try cod and you should now have an open NAT.

Xbox one moderate NAT on Homehub 5

Hi, got a shiney new Homehub 5 yesterday, but when I connected my Xbox One it says the NAT is moderate.
Ive looked online, but theres nothing that relates to my issue. I tried some advice that related to the Homehub 3, set the 'always use this IP address' to yes and it didnt help.
Anybody got any pointers, as Im bad enough at COD without being limited lol.
Homehub 5
Xbox one with a wired connection
Cheers, Craig
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I've just had a home hub 5 today and currently have an open NAT in both the xbox one dashboard and call of duty Ghosts.
To do this I only had to do a few things.
First of all open internet explorer in the xbox one and make sure you have already gone through smart settup and turned off parental controls.
Afterwards put the xbox in energy saving mode and switch it off.
Next open a web browser on your PC.
First go into the hub settings by typing bthomehub.home in the address bar. If that doesn't work then try typing 192.168.1.254.
Click advanced settings. Type in password if asked then click go to advanced settings.
Click 'Home Network'
Then find the xbox one in the network diagram. By default it should be listed as Xbox-SystemOS
Where it says always use this IP address click 'Yes' then click Apply.
Next Click the Firewall tab then click port forwarding.
Click 'Manage games and applications'
Click 'Add new game or application'
Where it says game or application name just type COD XB1
Where it says Copy an existing game or application click 'No'
Where it says protocol leave as 'Any'
In the port range setting type 3075 - 3075
leave translate to blank then click add
Click apply then OK.
Go back to main port forwarding screen then where it says Game or application click the arrow in the drop down box and select COD XB1. In the device box select XBox- SystemOS.
Then click add then click Apply.
Switch xbox back on and try testing multiplayer connection again after testing press and hold both triggers and bumper buttons at the same time. this should open the nat on dashboard.
Also try cod and you should now have an open NAT.

Verizon quantum gateway router and 2 Xbox ones nat type open?

Hello, so Verizon sent me there new router quantum gateway, I have 2 Xbox ones. Upnp is enabled and I have both xbox ones set to static ip. I have one xbox in dmz and the other xbox has all the ports forwarded udp 88, 3074, 53, 500, 3544, 4500, tcp 3074, 53, 80. Both Xbox ones in settings / network show nat type open but in call of duty advanced warfare multiplayer/ xboxlive screen. what ever Xbox one turns on first says nat type open and the other says moderate. Hopefully someone here can help cause I can't find any information anywhere and Verizon technical support has no clue
Thanks in advanced

Hi you need to do two things
Step 1: You have to program the router with port forwarding rules for your xbox one specifically
See instructions here Network Settings on Xbox One - Xbox Support
Step 2: You have to program the router with port forwarding rules for your CoD AW
see instructions here: ports used for Call of Duty games.
if you're not terribly familiar with port forwarding, then there are some good guides online including some youtube video's.
You might not technically find a whole lot on the quantum gateway router specifically, but its identical programming as compared to the Actiontec REV I router
This site has the specific ports that the xbox wants
Getting Configured: A guide to configuring your NAT settings.

Getting an Open Nat on XBOX One?

Hi all, first post here.
I'm trying to configure my Xbox One so that I have an open nat type as opposed to the moderate one I have now but have abosuletly no idea on how to go about this. I've followed a few guides, but not made any progress. In terms of hardware, i'm running with a BT HH5 Type A on Infinity Option 2. I know for a fact I'm not on Carrier Grade Nat.
So, any ideas? I'm a bit lost really...

The Home Hub 5 has poor UPnP support. Because of this it is not fully compatible with the xbox one.
There are work-arounds you can try
To tell you how to get round the problem I need to know a couple of things
Do you own more than one Xbox One?
Do you also own an xbox 360?
Do you play Call of Duty Ghosts on the xbox one?
There is a workaround to open the NAT but this wont work for call of duty ghosts.
Go to the Network settings in the xbox settings app then run a multiplayer test. When test is finished press and hold both the triggers and the bumper buttons at the same time to go to detailed stats screen.
When on this screen press A then press A again. Hopefully your NAT should now be open. You sometimes have to do this two or three times though to get the NAT open.
Because of the home hub 5's poor UPnP support though there is no way to open the NAT in cod ghosts using UPnP. You need to forward port 3075 to open the NAT in Ghosts.
This is all a total pain and I keep hoping BT will update the firmware with a fix but i not holding my my breath.
It should be said though that NAT doesn't matter for games that use dedicated servers. So for games like Forza or Titanfall you don't need to worry about NAT. It's only games that use p2p that need the NAT open like COD or assassins creed black flag.

Xbox One nat settings

Xbox One has moderate nat settings, got honehub 5, any idea how to fix? Help would be appreciated!

There are reports on xbox forums that going into the settings app, changing the power settings to energy saving mode,switching off console, rebooting router then switching console back on has fixed nat settings for some people.
also if its only call of duty giving you a moderate nat then you should forward port 3075 to the xbox one

WRT54GL - two xboxes - moderates nat... sometimes

Modem: RCA DHG525
Router: WRT54GL
ISP: Cogeco (Ontario Canada)
I have two xboxes connected to my router (wired). Both xboxes have unique static IPs. xbox1 is in the DMZ. xbox2 has ports 53, 80 and 3074 forwarded for TCP and UDP. Block Anonymous WAN Requests is disabled. MTU is set to auto. uPnP is disabled.
I just ran the connection test on xbox2 and got an open nat. I left xbox2 on but signed out of live. I went to xbox1 and ran the connection test and received a moderate nat.
I powered off both xboxs and reran the connection tests with only one xbox powered on at a time. Both xbox1 and xbox2 report moderate nat.
After having both xboxes powered off for a while I ran the connection test on xbox2 again and the nat is open. I powered off xbox2 and ran the connection test on xbox1 and again the nat is moderate.
Again I left both xboxes powered off for a while and ran the connection test on xbox1 first. The nat is moderate. I powered off xbox1 and ran the test on xbox2 and the nat is open. I've run the test on xbox1 before and received an open nat though.
Is this a timing thing? Is something released if the xboxes are both powered off long enough?
Is there a way I can get both xboxes to have an open nat consistantly? I don't need to have them both online at the same time. I'd just like to have an open nat whether I'm playing on xbox1 or xbox2.
Thanks,
imcndn
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ok... I tried that out:
Set MTU to 1364
enabled uPnP
disabled port forwarding
disabled dmz
enabled port triggering:
53 TCP
80 TPC
3074 TCP
53 UDP
88 UDP
3074 UDP
Both xboxes powered on:
xbox2 has an open nat
xbox1 has an open nat
That did it... thanks for all the help! Awesome support from the forums!
imcndn

XBOX ONE. I have the xbox one and the airport time capsule and cant connect to most xbox live games and zero parties. I have 0 experience in all this but somehow was able to change NAT to open but still wont connect. HELLLPPPP

Okay folks, I need your help out there.
So the nerdy side of me went and picked up the XBOX ONE on release day. Its awesome by the way, BUT..... I cant seem to connect to most xbox live games and absolutely ZERO parties. At first I just thought it was something to do with the xbox itself and would eventually fix itself, but i was wrong. After looking into it on microsoft, i found out that it had to do with my NAT settings on the airport itself. I guess apple and xbox are not compatiable for xbox live and it makes it difficult to have an open NAT setting and is a huge PAIN.
I was able to pinpoint one that the airport time capsule was blocking the IPV6 something or another. Anyways, I unblocked that, and reset the modem and time capsule and jumped on the xbox and now have open NAT settings but still cant connect to multi-player.
Upon further searching, i was told to uncheck the UPNP on my time capsule as well, but have no idea how to find that.
I know it seems confusing, but thats the best i can describe it.
tthanks all

Be a long long time before I see an Xbox One.. but whoever told you to uncheck the upnp in the TC.. tell them their dreamin' .. upnp is not support by Apple in any computer or router, never has been.. Apple deliberately wrote their own version called NAT-PMP to do the same thing.. dynamically open ports at the request of an application or client computer.
So there is nothing like that to uncheck.. and as a matter of interest.. there no box to check or uncheck for NAT-PMP either.. since apple do not believe in end user adjustment of settings.. they simply do not exist.
You will have to manually forward all ports required by the Xbox via the TC. For multi-player games you probably need to open more ports than the standard to allow just xbox live. You will need to check the ports required and open them.
OR
Buy a standard vista UPNP compatible router.. and use that.. and simply put the TC in bridge in the network.
I have not seen posts yet about xbox one.. but there are plenty about xbox and ps3 and the fact that Apple really doesn't give a hoot about games consoles.
This is a good basic post for older xbox.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5385065?tstart=0

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