Monitoring Doubt in Gentran

Hi All,
this doubt is in my mind for quite some time. I was in Xi before and I was extensively using the monitoring tool SXMB_MONI. I sometimes used the same transaction in my SAP ABAP system to look for messages. Right now I am into a project that uses Gentran - is it because of some authorisation or is it because of some other reason that SXMB_MONI is not used here. Probably, its because we use only IDOCs we are happy with WE02/ 09. Can this also be the reason? I am really curious to explore...
Rgds
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Hi Deepti
Tcode SXMB_MONI is used to monitor messages on ABAP stack only not java stack
so you can use this transaction in XI and also in ABAP.
now are you using ABAP on gentran also?
thanks
sandeep

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Doubt in BPM monitoring

Hi guys,
I'm doing a file 2 file BPM, where in my sender file has a record tag 1: unbounded containing two sub tags FNAMe and LNAME. I need multiple files to be generated at my output depending on the occurence of the record tag in my input.
I have completed my scenario, and when i place the file in my input folder, it is getting picked also.
I'm seeing the message in sxmb_moni. However i don't see any monitoring for my BPM. I'm not getting any output file in my destination.
Can anyone please help me on the steps to debug this
Thanks guys
Varun

Hi varun
also try this
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https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/e7bc3a5a-0501-0010-1095-eb47159e169c
monitoring BPm https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/e7bc3a5a-0501-0010-1095-eb47159e169c
Reconciliation of Messages in BPM - /people/krishna.moorthyp/blog/2006/04/08/reconciliation-of-messages-in-bpm
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Doubt in processing (datapacket) in Details Monitor AWB screen

Hi Bwers,
              when we schedule the infopackage,in the monitor screen we can see header,status and Detail.
In Details Tab,we need to have request,extraction,transfer and Processing events.
In Processing(data packet) we can see Datapackage->transfer rules,update rules,update,processing end.
I need to know the information in Processing end tab.
In that we can see
Processing 1 finished.
Processing 2 finished.
I need to know what are these processing.where 1 & 2 processing finished ?
could anyone explain the processing 1 & 2 in detail ?
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Hi Ganesh,
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Processing 1 finished.
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Doubt in deadline monitoring

Hi,
I have a user decision where deadline monitoring is active. To be specific "Latest Start" is activated. In the "Conditions" tab "Complete Work Item" tab has a condition set. The condition is Dflag = 'X'. This means when this condition "Dflag = X", is true, the status of the workitem is set to Completed. This condition is set in the deadline branch.
Question 1) Does this mean that the workitem will disappear from the inbox once deadline has reached and this condition has been set?
Question 2) If it doesnt disappear, then is it possible to execute the workitem after deadline is reached and this condition has been set?
The reason is when I see the techncal log I am observing the following.
1) Deadline has reached and Dflag has been set to X in the deadline branch.
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Question 1) Does this mean that the workitem will disappear from the inbox once deadline has reached and this condition has been set?
-> The workitem will not disappear, it will be set to complete in ur case.
Question 2) If it doesnt disappear, then is it possible to execute the workitem after deadline is reached and this condition has been set?
If the condition has been set DFLG=X the workitem is already set to complete and it should go to the next processing step.
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now - The fulfillment of the condition is checked by the background job for condition evaluation which is run periodical - i am not aware of which job does this but checking could be delayed cause of the periodic job.
What happened to the workitem after completion did ur path get executed at a later stage ?

In RWB (message monitoring), a small doubt

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When i go to runtime workbench and click the message monitoring option, I get a drop down list with text "Message from component". In this list there are two things :
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af.cnw.
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here "cnw" is our netweaver server system id
and "cbrindnw" is our netweaver server name
Regards,
Mona.

Hi,
Please check the config required for runtime workbench:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/0b4580be-0601-0010-d3ad-bd6ce51ae916
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SAP_XI_RWB_SERV_USER
SAP_XI_RWB_SERV_USER_MAIN
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"Monitoring Recording" doubt

Hello, I've been testing the Audition CS5.5, I'm not audio producer, I make wedding films, but sometimes I record audio for some situations, so I had been using Soundbooth for that, for record some audio for other things that not be directly with my job... anyway.
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Doubt in message monitoring

Hi,
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Also give me the links for this.

Aarthi
actualli
AENGINE_AENGINE should be right
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IDOCs creation - Transfer Orders(TOs) for Deliveries - Basic doubts, thanq

Hi Experts,
Am new to IDOCs. I hv a requirement, so, request u that, Can I get some Wht to do tips from u?
My doubts:
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2 - How the created IDOC will be get posted?
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I need to do===>   Should be executed only when the message code on the delivery idoc is u201CTOCu201D. Look up the warehouse code on the delivery header using the delivery nbr in the delivery idoc. Create a new TO confirm idoc per delivery idoc being processed. Create a line item on this idoc for every line on the delivery idoc. Each TO line includes the delivery number and delivery item number so the TO number and line number can be looked up in table LTAP by using the delivery number and line item number found on the delivery idoc. There will be at 2 transfer orders for each delivery item b/c of the 2 step pick process, so select the TO nbr that has 916 as the destination storage type (LTAP-NLTYP). There may be more than 1 pair of TOs per delivery item so this must be completed for each TO found relevant to each delivery item.
The inbound delvry03 idoc will update the delivery with the serial numbers as part of the standard functionality. Since the transfer order must also be confirmed with the quantities on the inbound idoc, an additional idoc must be created from within the delivery update process. The transfer order can be updated and confirmed using the standard idoc and function module which should be created and initiated from the delivery update function module customer exit.
Source = DELVRY03     Destination = WMTCID01
Record Name-Field Name-Record Name-Field Name-Description---Comments
E1EDL20     VBELN-E1LTCOH-LGNUM-Warehouse Number-Look w/ idoc delivery nbr
E1EDL20     VBELN-E1LTCOH-TANUM-Transfer Order Number- Look w/ idoc delivery nbr
E1EDL24     POSNR-E1LTCOI-TAPOS-Transfer Order Line Item- Look w/ idoc delivery line nbr
EVERY THING IS DATA TRIGGERED!!!
thanq
Edited by: Srinivas on Jun 27, 2008 4:41 PM

IDOC Programming
There are two processes in IDOC processing one is INBOUND PROCESS( IDOC coming to the system and its handling at various stages) and the other is OUTBOUND PROCESS( IDOC is send to other system . Separate ABAP programs are written for these 2 processes and different configuration settings are required for each one .Depending upon the trigeering mechanism different programming approaches are used.OUTBOUND PROGRAMS handle the IDOC creation and INBOUND PROGRAMS handle the inbound IDOC and the data trasfer from the IDOC to the database tables.
NEED FOR ABAP PROGRAMMING arises if
1)New IDOC was created
Depending upon the triggering mechanism i.e change pointer,message control
etc the programming technique changes and the type of process.
2)Existing IDOC was extended
User Exits are used to populate data in new segments added and to read them
back.
3)To enhance an exsiting process.
User Exits are used .
Basic structure of an OUTBOUND PROGRAM
The basic structure of all outbound programs is same. The CONTROL
record which is of TYPE EDIDC has to be filled. It contains important fields like
IDOCTP IDOC type
MESTYP Message Type
RCVPRN Recieving Partner (Destination)
RCVPRT Partner Type (it is LS i.e Logical System)
The DATA RECORD internal table which is of TYPE EDIDD has to be filled
in the same order as there are segments in the IDOC definition.
It has 2 important fields which are to be filled ,these are
SEGNAM Name of the segment
SEGDATA Data in the segment and can be upto 1000 bytes.This field
is corresponds to each data segment in the IDOC.
e.g.
DATA INT_EDIDD LIKE EDIDD OCCURS 0 WITH HEADER LINE.
DATA W_SEGDATA LIKE zsegment "custom segment zsegment
INT_EDIDD-SEGNAM = 'ZSEGMENT'
W_SEGDATA-field1 = value "taken from some table
W_SEGDATA-field2 = value "taken from some table
INT_EDIDD-SEGDATA = W_SEGDATA
APPEND INT_EDIDD
This will fill the data record corresponding to the segment ZSEGMENT . For all
segments the sam steps will be repeated until all the data corresponding to all the
segments in the idoc is filled in the internal table of type EDIDD.
There is only one control record and can be multile data records in the idoc
structure.
Which data is to be extracted from the tables to be filled in EDIDD type internal table is determined in standalone programs from the objects which are specified in the selection screen and from the object key passed to the function module in case of message control and is taken from BDCP table in case of change pointers using function modules "CHANGE_POINTERS_READ"
In case of stand alone programs and function modules based on change pointers method the function module "MASTER_IDOC_DISTRIBUTE" is used to send the IDOC to ALE layer for distribution ,in case of message control it is handled automatically by the RSNASTED program invoked by the message control.
OUTBOUND PROCESS AND OUTBOUND PROGRAM.
Outbound programs are used in outbound process to genearte IDOCs . There
purpose is to extract the data from the tables and to fill the IDOC data records
and the control record in the IDOC and pass ito the ALE layer for distribution to the recieving system .
Depending upon the triggering mechanism (how and when the outbound program will be started different techniques and interface is used for outbound program.
1)Message control
Application like PO(purchase order) creation use this technique , where the output type is linked to the application(Message control is a configurable cross application component which can be set in IMG .Such programs are created in the form of function modules and linked to the output type which is linked to the apllication.These have predefined interfaces.
In outbound programs(function module) that use message control the key of the
application document is passed to the function module whcig will read the data from the table depending upon the key passed(NAST structure) and fill the IDOC segemnts with the application data.The control record is also passed to the function module but is not fully filled, the rmaining fields are filled and the control is passed back to the calling program which is RSNASTED and is invoked by the
message control to process ALE and EDI output types and this program on recieving the IDOC data will create the physical IDOC in the system.
The parameteers passed to the function module are
IMPORTING PARAMETERS
OBJECT LIKE NAST
It contains documents key.
CONTROL_RECORD_IN LIKE EDIDC
It contains the partailly filled control record
EXPORETING PARAMETER
OBJECT_TYPE
CONTROL_RECORD_OUT LIKE EDIDC
TABLES
INT_EDID LIKE EDIDD
The internal table used to fill the data records in the same order as they exists in the IDOC.
The important parameters that should be filled in the custom function module are
CONTROL_RECORD_OUT and INT_EDIDD .The OBJK field of the structue NAST contains the key of the apllication document.
2)Stand alone programs
Generally used for Master Data transfer and as such depending upon the requirement can have different interfaces.The programs have a selection screen which has select options to select the objects, and parameters for specifying the recipient Logical System and the Message Type.
Data is selected based on the specified objects from the tables . and control record of type EDIDC is created and filled with important values like DIRECTION ,IDOCTP,RCVPRT,RCVPRN and MESTYP .
Data is filled in an internal table of TYPE EDIDD according to segment definitions
and in same order and the function module MASTER_IDOC_DISTRIBUTE is called passing the control record and the internal table containg IDOC data and importing an internal table consisting of control records for each communication IDOCS created.
3)Change pointer
Change Pointer table is read and checked if changes were made to important fields , if so the outbound program will be triggered automatically , these have predefined interfaces
ALE/IDOC Transaction
SALE Area Menu for ALE configurations.It includes transactions for
Logical System definition and linking it to a client, Transactions for
RFC Destination and Port Definition Etc.
SM59 RFC Destination
Here we specify the login settings for the destination including
the I.P address or Application Server name and the User name and
password.The information entered here is used to run Remote Function
Calls(RFC ) on the destination server .We can create number of types
of RFC Destinations but 3 types are important .
R/3 (R/3 to R/3), LS(logical system) and TCP/IP.
The name of the RFC destination should be same as that of Logical
System as it helps in creation of automatic partner profiles.
WE21 Port Definition.
There are 6 types of ports but only 2 types File and Transactional RFC
types of ports are important.
We have to specify the RFC Destination before a port can be created.
WE57 This is used to assign the Inbound function module to the Message Type
and to the IDOC Type.
WE42 This is used to define the process Code for Inbound Processing.
BD95 Define Filter object type .We can specify the field and the table it belongs
to as a filter object .
BD59 Assignment of Filter object type to the Message Type .Here we create the
link between Filter object and the segment and the message type and the
segment Field.
BD50 Set message Type to reducible.
BD65 Define Mandatory Fields.
BD64 Distribution Model . Also known as Customer Distribution Model Used to
define all the messages that will be exchanged between remote systems
and the name of thes logical systems. Any filters can also be specified.
The model once created has to be distributed on every system which will
be communicating ,It can be maintained on only One system.
BD21 Creating IDOcs from change pointers.
This can be used to create IDOCs from change pointers for a particular
message LIKE MATMAS.
BD22 This can be used to delete change pointers.
BD87 Status Monitor. Idocs can be selected base on number of criteria and there
processing status can be seen in detail.
BD10 Material Master Data Distribution .
Based on Message MATMAS.
BD12 Customer Master Data Distribution .
Based on Message CREMAS.
BD14 Vendor Master Data Distribution
Based on Message DEBMAS .
BDFG Generate ALE Interface for BAPI.
Here we specify the Business Object and the BAPI Function module for
which the interface has to be created.
WE31 Segment Editor.
This is used to create segments. We create the segment type and
segment definition is automatically created by editor e.g. Z1DUMMY is
segment type and Z2DUMMY is the segment definition .We specify the
fields and the data elements these cp\orresponds to create segments.
WE30 IDOC Editor
It is used to create a new IDOC Type or IDOC Extension .We specify the
segments that will be addd to the IDOC type.
WE02/05 IDOC List.
Various selct options and parameters are provided to select IDOCs
depending on the date, direction , mesage type etc.
WE20 Partner Profile
Here we create partner profile for each and every partner from / to which
the messages will be exchanged.There are 6 types of PF generally only
profiles of type LS(Logical System) ,KU(Customer) ,LI(Vendor) is used.
We specify the partner number and partner type and the agent and
the agent type responsible for handling of errors .
For every message send to the partner we have a outbound record and for
evry message coming from the partner we have the inbound record .
We specify the message in the otbound/inbound records ,double
clicking will take us to the detailed screen where the IDOC Type ,Port
and whether the IDCO will be immediatelt processed or collected are
mentioned.

New External Monitor for Logic on MacBook Pro - Suggestions

I'm in the painful process of updating my studio and now my large screen external monitor has started failing.
I know if this a pretty general question more suited to the MacBook Pro forum but I'd like some input from folks used to working with an application like Logic in a home studio environment.
I guess the issue for me is that I'm not getting any younger and my eyesight isn't what it used to be. One of the things specific to Logic and music software in general is that there are LOTS of very detailed dialog boxes with text that is not always height adjustable (yes I know about zooming and indeed I do lots of that but it gets quite distracting). The other factor is that I'm often recording and engineering myself which means I'll be sitting with a guitar in my lap or at a keyboard and can't always lean in too close to the monitor.
I solved this by buying a large 26" Acer which sits on my desk behind the Mackie MCU. To my left I've got the MacBook 15.4" Pro on a keyboard stand above my MIDI controller at a 45 degree angle to the desk.
It's worked quite well until the Acer seems to have become haunted. It will mysteriously reboot itself intermittently, going blank for a second, then showing the Acer logo and going back to picture. It will also turn itself on spontaneously when the computer is off (the status light is off and then turns itself on). It seems to detect when I'm in the middle of a really good session and starts resetting itself every 30 seconds or so. Then it will work fine sometimes for days or weeks at a time. I've checked it on 4 different computers, it malfunctions on all. I believe in may be a problem with one of the capacitors or the inverter, I'm not sure, but it's driving CRAZY at this point.
And of course now it's 3 months out of warranty and may be more expensive to fix than buying a new one.
So my issue is what monitor to replace it with. I've considered buying an Apple monitor, since the display is lovely to look at but there are a couple things that are deal breakers.
It's expensive. Very expensive.
Oddly you have to choose between a 24" and a 30", with nothing in between. Don't want to sound like Goldilocks here, but the 24 is tooooo small and the 30 is tooooo big.
Yeah I know bigger is usually better but since they bumped the native resolution of the 30" up to 2560x1600 it's really sharp but things like the menu text get really quite small. Yes you can reset to a lower non native resolution, but then you loose the sharpness. I tested Logic in the store on the 30" and it did look great but I found I actually had to move my whole body around to see things at the top and bottom of the screen.
Oh and did I mention that it's expensive? Jeez.
The 24" now seems to look a bit small to me after using the same resolution (1920x1200) on the Acer's 26" screen. (Ok, I think it's actually 25.5 but hey that half an inch can make a big difference and I will avoid making any bad jokes here).
And did I mention the Apple monitors are expensive? The 24" is almost 3 times as expensive as a cheaper alternative.
I also still have a PC here that I use (sorry) and the Apple monitors have very limited connectivity. So I think unfortunately the Apple monitors are out for me.
So I;m down to a couple other non Apple options. I will not buy an Acer again since I believe now that their quality control is not good and their support is absolutely atrocious. Shame I used to be a big fan of Acer PC's, but after owning a couple I'm steering clear.
My biggest issue right now is that most of the new budget monitors are geared toward 1080p HD uses so they are they are maxing out at 1920x1080 (16:9 aspect ratio instead of 1920x1200's 16:10). So the tradeoff here is that HD movies will look better in 16:9, but 16:10 gives you "squarer" pixels and more vertical resolution for screen hungry apps like Logic.
Any opinions on this? I'm a bit new to the Mac so I don't know if I'm really better off going with a 1920x1200 screen like the Apple monitors.
Also, I know this may just be a bug in the Acer's scaling, but if I switch to 1920x1080, I lose the menus off the top of the screen or if I adjust the vpos I lose the dock at the bottom. Downscaling to 1600x1050 or even 1024x768 works fine. If I get a 1080 screen and set the resolution appropriately will it work correctly and without too much distortion?
I'm also curious what is the best way to hook up the monitor? I'm currently using the DVI to VGA adapter that came with the MacBook. My Pro is the slighter older silver keyboard model so it has the standard DVI out. Will I see any real improvement by going over to using DVI directly?
Also I'm wondering how people feel about glossy vs matte for music. My current displays are the non-glossy and I do think I prefer them for detail work.
The candidates right now are
Hanns-G HH-281HPB 28" @300$. It's one of the only budget monitors that uses 1920x1200. All the right inputs (DVI, VGA). I'm just afraid this might be a bit too good to be true. It's really cheap and after having problems with a "cheap" Acer (although it wasn't so cheap 3 years ago!) I don't want similar problems. Stand has no swivel or tilt (a big problem for my use). Also that resolution on such a big screen might be good for me or it might look grainy I don't know I haven't seen it. Anybody have any experience with these?
Samsung P2770H 27" @339 Looks nice, good color. Sadly only 1080 native resolution. Stand doesn't swivel, but does tilt. No VGA input, so won't work with my old PC (although strangely it says it comes with a VGA cable). They get generally good reviews and I know Samsung makes very good flat panel TV's.
ViewSonic X Series VX2739WM 27" @350. Once again maxes out at 1080. It's fast (1ms), has VGA input. I've never been a big fan of ViewSonic but they do seem to have gotten better color-wise. Tilt no swivel and it's anti-glare (not sure this is a plus).
There are also similar options from HP, Asus, LG and Sceptre but they are all 1080. In fact outside of the Apples, the Hanns-G and a few expensive monitors from NEC they all seem to be 1080. So if I really want the 1200 the Hanns-G seems like the only way to go.
Any input here would be greatly appreciated.

No doubt, the Apple displays are gorgeous. The first time I saw the 30" display wow, I wanted one BAD and it's actually what prompted me to buy a "big" monitor. The colors are great with a rich wonderful saturation level and as usual for Apple the form factor design is stunning. You know for that picture quality I could even get over the sticker shock and save up for one.
Which is why I was so disappointed when I actually sat down in the store and started to use Logic on one. I imagine for doing video work, graphic design or darn near anything else, it would be great. But for Logic I just found myself bending and twisting trying to look at toolbar at the bottom and then up to look at the menus. And instrument or plugin displays that were hard coded to look OK at lower resolutions looked really, really tiny to me. For me and particularly using Logic having 2 slightly smaller displays at a 45 degree angle makes more sense.
And once again the 24 seems just a bit small. I don't understand why they have a 27" iMac but you can't buy a 27" display. So iMac 27" starting at 1699, subtract out the cost of the CPU and drive ie the Mini and I'd really buy one. Strangely you can buy a 21.5" or a 27" iMac. Or you can buy a 24" or 30" display. Hmmmm.
So don't get me wrong I'm not bashing Apple for being expensive. They put a lot of money into R&D and into really thinking about the form and the function of their products. As a recent convert from being a PC developer for 25+ years, hey I've more than sipped the Kool-Aid here, I've guzzled it. They make great products and yeah they're more expensive, because they ARE better! I've now got 2 MBP's, 2 iPods, I'm about to get an iPhone (silly "death grip" or not) and I really want an iPad. Heck I'd really love an 8 core MacPro if I could afford one (alas I can't).
I guess my only gripe here is that there always seems to be a little less choice in the Apple world. Yeah, I know they do a lot less volume than the PC clone world I just think that they always seem to have a big gap between the high end and low end with not enough in between. So you can choose between the lower end and one piece units with no expansion boards (the mini or the iMac) or go straight to monster tower MacPro (way over 3K with display). You can get a MacBook but then you have to put up with a small screen or go with MacBook Pro, which let's face it is a lot of computing power for someone who just wants to web surf and write some email without squinting.
So here I am stuck in the middle. I don't want to buy a HannspreeQG or another piece of junk that's going to last 3 years and 3 months because of a crappy $2 capacitor that no seems to able to fix or care about fixing. I'd like to buy a really nice Apple monitor, I just want a big monitor, not a huge one and not a "medium" one (I know I'm spoiled but 24" seems "medium" these days).
Sorry about the rant here but my monitor is shutting down every 30 seconds and I'm about to go completely insane and toss it out the window!!!
Really glad to hear about that 84' VGA cable. I never imagined such a thing existed or would work without some sort of signal boost on the way. Very cool for me. My electronic drum kit is in another room and I would love to have a small cheap monitor next to it for sequencing. I had my laptop on a stand next to it for a while but I began to get terrified that I'd let a drumstick slip and destroy my laptop screen. That would be a very bad thing. Thanks for the tip.

Previewing HD in a third monitor

Hi,
I know this has been asked here before. I've searched for it in the forums but I still have some doubts about it.
First of all. These are my specs:
Windows 7
Mother Board: ASUS M4A77D
AMD Phenom 9650 Quad-Core Processor: 2.30 Ghz
RAM: 4.00 Gb
Video Card: Nvidia GeForce 9400 GT
I work with two monitors and I have a third monitor that I use with firewire to preview my editing through a Mini DV cam, but I'd like to make the preview in HD. I've read that I need another Video Card, but my MotherBoard just have 1 PCI Express port, so, I think I can't do that
I'm doubting about some solutions I've read here, and I'd like to be clear before to proceed:
- I've read about the BlackMagic Design Intensity Shuttle, but I'm not sure about it because everywhere I read, there are a lot of complains about it because of its bad customer service, and I live in Colombia, South America... So I think it will be more difficult to me. Besides, what will happen when Windows comes up with a new version and the new drivers that Blackmagic will need.
- The other solution I've read about is to get a new videocard, but as I mentioned before, my MotherBoard just support 1 PCI Express. So, I'd had to change my motherboard too. And the new MB I've found use DDR3 or above to the memory cards, so I'd have to buy new RAM too.
I know too that the new videocard must be compatible with the old one because it must use the same drivers. How can I know that before buying it? The one that I have has a few years old right now.
So... I'm not sure about it.
What are your experiences about this? What should I do?
I hope you can help me. I want to go on with this topic until I understand all of this.
Sorry for my long message
I thought about posting links to the Motherboards and Videocards I'm thinking about but I don't want to make this longer.
Thanks!

A preview card from a different manufacturer is the best way to go. If you are doing it for money, I would recommend Harm's recommendation of buying a new system.
More resources can be found here:
http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html
Third Party Hardware Compatibility

DVI Signal Not Working Properly in Hp 2010i Monitor

Hi Team,
My Name is Rubhan and i Purchased a Hp2010i 20" LCD Monitor 3 weeks back. I just installed an ATI Radeon 4670 HD Graphics Card in my System which comes with a DVI Port(Default), Since there was no DVI Cables Supplied by the Manufacturer, i had to Buy a Seperate Cable and Install it to the system.... At first, the monitor went to sleep since there was no Signal from Graphics Card, but later on, after a minute Windows screen appeared and didn't last for more than few Seconds and Vanished again(this happens every time wen i restart or kept System in Idle)... I doubted Both the Graphics card and Cable to be at fault and Checked it in my Old Computer System. But Both the devices were Performing Normal and good. I checked the entire CPU with another LG LCD Monitor and Found it Working Great....I admite that my Monitor is Working great without Graphics card in VGA, But I wud like to Know Reason or solution to this issue. I m happy that there is Direct DVI i/p option in Hp Monitor(which other Brands doesnt posses) and therefore no DVI-VGA Coverters required.

The only thing I can think of right now would be drivers.
Make sure you have the latest ATI drive for the 4670, here is a link to AMD's website.
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx
good luck.
bill
I'm a HP employee

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My Samsung monitor, which before using with my new Mac, produced a beautiful picture. Now that I just hooked it up with the mini-dvi to dvi toggle, any window that shows up on the Samsung has this sort of wierd glow,tinge surrounding the whole window. Like an aura. I tried to tweak the profile ,brightness etc to no avail. I think the toggle I bought was from Belkin )looked exactly the same and much less expensive than the Apple product).I doubt it that is the culprit. Anything that I can do to get a crisp and true reproduction of whatever I might place on that matter? Settings that I should look at? Or should I , in general be not expecting anything so great by using the second monitor. Thanks
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My apologies,,the product is Dynex http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000F S10090979&catid=25607
and it is slightly under Apples price (Don't know why salesman gave me somce ridiculous $40 plus price!, Wait a minute,,I just went to the same site and it mentions a price of $52 !! http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000F S10084484&catid=12503 are they nuts?

My MBP Retina doesn't allow the use of two Thunderbolt to DVI adapters. It only works with one TB - VGA adapter and one TB - DVI adapter. However now the color on the VGA connected monitor is slightly different.

The monitors are Viewsonic VA2406m-LED. The Display preferences show all three monitors but one monitor always says "No Signal" if they are both connected TB -> DVI.
The Color on the VGA connected one is slighly off. It seems like I should be able to connect two DVI monitors not sure why this is stopped. Does it have something to do with the Graphics card?

The problem was with the newEgg adapter. I just went to the Apple Store and bought an Apple adapter and the monitor now displays correctly.
For future reference, in case anyone experiences this problem:
the newEgg adapter is part number 9SIA1PU0P88920, described as a Thunderbolt Mini Displayporrt Display Port DP to DVI Adapter for APPLE Macbook Pro Air and the full description says it works for macbook pro, etc.
when this adapter is used, the macbook pro recognizes the monitor, but the monitor displays nothing.
When the apple adapter (MB507Z/B Mini Display Port to DVI Adapater) is used, the monitor displays correctly.
Of course, the individual newEgg part might simply be defective, but I doubt it. moral -- spend the extra $$ and buy the Apple adapter.

How do I get my Mac Pro to see the second monitor through a video splitter and/or switcher?

In a recording studio we have a Mac Pro with two video display monitors in the control room and we want to be able to show the content of the second monitor to the person in the recording room on a big display monitor there. However, when we interpose a switcher or splitter between the computer and the second monitor so that we can (with a switcher) switch the second monitor signal from the control room monitor to the record room monitor or (with a splitter) split the signal to go to both monitors, we have no luck. On startup the computer does not see the monitor through the switcher, so it doesn't recognize its existence. If we start the computer up without the switcher in the signal chain, it sees the second monitor just fine, and (weirdly enough) we can then change the cabling to interpose the switch, which then works to switch back and forth between second monitors (control room and record room), but that cable swapping's a royal PITA. We want a simple solution that will allow us to start up the computer, see the second monitor in the control room, then choose to show it to the person in the record room with a simple flip of the switch (or even better, split the signal so it's available both places). The splitter we've tried most recently is this one: http://tinyurl.com/curen39 I'd appreciate any advice from people who have tried this configuration or something similar with success. We have a full ProTools HD Accel 3 system installed, so there's no room to install a second video card. Thanks.
Mac Pro 8-Core 2.4 GHz, OS 10.6.8

Christopher Dobrian wrote:
Thanks for the response! Yes, it's a 5x70 video card, a 5770 I believe. In any case, it does have the three ports, but (a not-well documented fact) that doesn't mean one can really get three full-resolution signals out of it at one time, as you alluded to in your message. So, yes, we did try hooking all three up directly to the computer, but the computer would only recognize two of those monitors, and the only way to get it to "de-recognize" the second monitor and recognize the third monitor was to physically disconnect the second monitor.
I did say when you want to connect three monitors to 5x70's there are some rules to adhere to. These are covered in the first two apple docs mentioned above, or by title:
Mac Pro (Mid 2010), Mac Pro (Early 2009): Issues with three displays and multiple DVI, HDMI connections
Mac Pro (Early 2009), Mac Pro (Mid 2010): Supported display configurations
The general gist of these rules is that to drive three monitor son a 5x70 you need two active adapters. That is why one of your monitors was disabled when you tried to add a third.
Here's a good explanation of what's going in here and why you need two active adapters on these cards:
Active vs. Passive Displayport adapters *the truth*
If you use DVI monitors and any of them have resolutions less than 1920 x 1200 then you can use single link active adapters. The "AMD Eyefinity Validated Dongles" chart shows some active (and passive) adapters that are acceptable. For example of a single link DVI active adapter is the Accell B087B-006B. An example of a dual link DVI active adapter would be the one from monoprice.com if you need to connect monitors with a resolution greater than 1920 x 1200.
I'm doubtful that SwitchResX would be able to convince the computer that there were only two monitors connected and direct the second monitor signal to the correct place, but it certainly seems worth a try, so thanks for the idea! Any other ideas are still welcome in the meantime.
I'm not doubtful. It is a very powerful utility for dealing with all aspects of multiple monitor configurations (they call them "Display Sets") complete with forcing EDID information if necessary. The different configurations can be controlled with a (contextual) menu and/or hot key.
SwitchResX is academic at this point if you want to have all three monitors connected. You would need to get that working first. Then use SwitchResX to vary the configuration combinations. So if you go this route the "name of the game" is figure out the active adapters you need.
I only described in general terms above about the adapters since you never said exactly what kind of connections these monitors require (single link DVI, dual link DVI, hdmi, mini-displayport, vga).

My HD TV as NTSC Monitor for secondary color correction

Can I use my new Panasonic HD TV model TH-42PX80U as a NTSC monitor for secondary color correction using both Final Cut Pro out of a Macbook Pro intel? What cable I can use to conect via HDMI? Will the color acuracy will be similar to that of a NTSC color correction monitor? will my TV do a decent job for NTSC? THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!
I am not sure I have this HDMI cable to be use in my macbook pro does it comes with it?

Can I use my new Panasonic HD TV model TH-42PX80U as a NTSC monitor for secondary color correction using both Final Cut Pro out of a Macbook Pro intel?
Yes, but I would only trust it if you are going to be making DVDs, and ONLY if you properly set it up. I would not rely on it for broadcast color correction. The reason broadcast monitors exist is to have a standard...HDTVs don't have a standard. Go to best buy and look at all of them....none of them match. BUT, as a nice simple solution for DVD, I'd use it.
But the only way you are going to get a signal to it is with the Matrox MXO. It will do component to the monitor, or you can get a DVI to HDMI adapter...if you do that the MXO software will allow you to set the monitor up to color bars. That option is only available from of the DVI out of the box.
Will the color acuracy will be similar to that of a NTSC color correction monitor?
No...it would be similar to color correcting NTSC on your home television...because that it what it is.
will my TV do a decent job for NTSC?
I doubt it. Taking an SD image and blowing it up huge on this HD TV...scaled up. I wouldn't think so. I wouldn't use it for SD color correction.
I am not sure I have this HDMI cable to be use in my macbook pro does it comes with it?
You have a DVI port on your MacBook Pro. And they make DVI to HDMI cable adapters I'm sure.
http://library.creativecow.net/articles/ross_shane/MXO.php
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