Monitoring FCP through a LG HD Monitor

Hi All.
My company recently replaced our old SD broadcast monitor with a LG HD TV monitor. To save money we ordered it from Best Buy. We also started shooting and editing with P2 footage. After the footage is logged and transferred and in the project. I would set up using the NTSC DV sequence setting. This worked. I could see the footage during playback on the monitor. I was recently asked to create files using the 4:3 ratio. Well, I've run into a problem of the sequence not playing back on the monitor. Can anyone help?
FYI
My computer is hooked up to my DSR-11 deck via firewire. Audio goes to external speakers and video output goes to the LG monitor.

So you are viewing SD DV on this big HD monitor? You shot HD, but are editing in a DV timeline and viewing on an HD monitor?
Whatever for?
Shane

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FCP through to External monitor....Sound fine but video is still frames

Hi everybody
In January of this year this problem was posted by Andy D.....
+No matter what combination of settings I choose I cannot get video to play on my HD monitor only a still of the last frame shows up. When I hit play the audio is loud and clear and then when I hit stop the final frame appears on the screen.+
I have this problem but only when the material in my FCP viewer, canvas or sequence is ProRes422 (I'd converted H264s to this before importing into project)! If the project is DV or H264 material that has been rendered by FCP, it plays on the external monitor fine but it seems if we start looking at the high end stuff like ProRes, back to sound but still picture.
I might add here that the path to my external Full HD monitor is through firewire to an ADVC100 converter and then composite cables to the input of the monitor. By the way the same thing happens with an SD monitor.
I haven't tried using my video camera as the link through to the monitor instead of the ADVC100. Would this make a difference? I'd be pretty happy if someone had a solution for this.
Thanks in anticipation.
Peter L

Unless the camera is a DVCPRO HD camera...like the HPX-170...this won't work. Not via HDV or AVCHD. Playout isn't as simple as it was with DV. There are far cheaper capture cards...Decklink Intensity Pro, Matrox MXO2 mini...but you need a MacPro for those (or with the MXO2 MIni, a laptop with an Express34 slot). An iMac is severely limited in what it can do.
Sorry.
#25 HDV external Monitor Viewing
Shane's Stock Answer #25 - HDV external Monitor Viewing
To view HDV on an external monitor in high definition you are going to need to purchase a capture card, like the ones Decklink (www.decklink.com) or AJA (www.aja.com) offer. They will both play out HDV in real time. The catch is that you cannot view this on a regular TV or NTSC monitor. Since this is HD, an HD monitor will be needed. HOWEVER, both cards are capable of down converting the signal so that it can be displayed on an SD monitor. This won't be color accurate
The real reason why you can't monitor HDV through a Firewire camera is because Firewire HDV cameras don't decode incoming HDV streams and route them to their outputs like DV cameras do.
Good options for you are the Matrox MXO2 mini...$450...coupled with an HDTV. Or a Matrox MXO (DVI connection) coupled with an Apple 23" display gets you good quality.
And there are the Decklink Intensity and Intensity PRO cards as well, and the AJA I/O Express...
You can, however, view HDV out via firewire as DV...lowering the resolution to that of DV, but still viewable. This is not full quality nor should it be used to judge the quality of your footage or used to color correct to. This is just a way to view the footage on a large monitor.
Here are some examples of some of the possibilities:
- DV or HDV sequence output to an SDI signal on a third-party interface
- An uncompressed NTSC or PAL sequence output to a DV FireWire output
- An HDV sequence output to a DV FireWire output
Sequence and output formats must have compatible frame rates. For example,
sequences with a frame rate of 60, 30, or 24 fps can be output to a 30 fps device,
but not to a 25 or 50 fps device.
Shane

I have upgraded to Mavericks and I now cannot import DV into FCP through the capture presets.

Since upgrading to Mavericks, I cannot import DV vision through my Sony FX-1E. I have tried various connections - DV to Firewire 400 + 800 with no success. I now have to get the vision ingested at another facility and exported to a hard drive in order to edit.
Is there a way I can get vision into FCP?

FCP (not FCPX) is legacy software, now EOL and not designed or guaranteed to work with Mavericks, some people report no problems others do, it depends on your setup. I'd suggest using iMovie to capture your footage then transfer to FCP to save using (or paying) another facility. An alternative (and my own solution) is a second boot drive with 10.8.5 and FCP 7 which still works OK.

Does anyone know how to monitor a microphone when using Voice Over tool?

I use Final Cut studio in conjunction with an AJA Kona LHe card. Audio inputs are via the AJA. I monitor the output from FCP through the AJA card via a Samson C-Control (monitor matrix). Here's my problem. When I'm recording voice over, I am unable to monitor the sound from the microphone through the headphones (or speakers). There is definitely an audio feed being routed to the headphones as I am able to hear the audio cue countdown. The microphone is working fine too - when it comes to playing back the voice over through the headphones (or speakers), I can hear the track absolutely fine. Has anyone experienced the same problem... and do you know how to solve it? Many thanks, AW

its not that you've anything screwy going on .. this is the way it is engineered to work.
the pre-existing audio (and cues) is routed to the headphones but not the voice being recorded.
the solution is to use an audio mixer to monitor both the voice over and the timeline

Display on a PAL/NTSC (SD) monitor

It may be a silly question for you film compositing people but here we go...
We're doing a compositing for a TV advertising project and we'd like to see it on a PAL display while we're working (we have a SONY PVM series monitor).
Does SHAKE support TV output of some kind? We do it with FCP through firewire with the AJA I/O box but it seems not to be working with SHAKE.
thankyou
joan

Ah, didn't notice that. Well, one option is EchoFire:
http://www.synthetic-ap.com/products/echofire/macindex.html
It can route QuickTime movies to FireWire and I have heard of people using it with Shake, although I have not used it myself.
Other than that, all I can suggest is a Kona or DeckLink card.

Audio monitoring- external mixer or Mac line-out?

Is it preferable to monitor audio from FCP through an external mixer (Mackie 1202) or is it OK to simply set output to the Macpro line-out?
(I notice the Bars and tone peak at -12- which reads as -10 on my mixer.
For some reason i have always been used to setting my peak at 0 on the mixer
So I'm confused if i should forget the external mixer all together- and just turn it on for the rare occasion I import analog signal)

The main reasons for using an external analog mixer like the 1202 are:
1. if you need a level control for your monitor speakers.
2. if you have other analog sound sources that you want to mix in with your computer output
3. if you need to need two headphone outputs for a voiceover session
For most activities, you don't really need it.
However, monitoring from your headphone output, whether it goes through
a mixer or not, is not the best choice for computer audio.
The best way to monitor your computer's audio is with a Firewire audio
interface, taking digital out from FCP, and using high-quality converters
to convert it to analog. Something like this:
http://www.mackie.com/products/onyx820i/
The meter on your 1202 is for analog signals. Typically you set those
levels to be about 0dB on the Mackie's meter, which should correspond
to +4 dBu on your main analog outputs.
The meter in FCP is for digital audio. On that meter 0dB represents the
absolute maximum, with no headroom, so you'll want to keep your levels
around -12dB, more accurately -12dBFS.
Since the headphone output is not pro, it would make sense that
-12dBFS = -10dBu. In other words, your headphone jack's normal
analog output level is lower than the normal pro audio +4dBu.

FCP - Voice Over problem

I have a FCP system set up which includes an AJA Kona LHe card. Audio inputs are via the AJA. This includes audio from a video deck as well as other audio inputs, such as a studio condenser mic connected for voice overs. I monitor the output from FCP through the AJA card via a Samson C-Control (monitor matrix). Here's my big problem. When I'm recording voice over, whilst there is definitely an audio feed being routed to the headphones (I am able to hear the audio cue countdown), I am unable to monitor the sound from the microphone through the headphones (or speakers for that matter). The microphone is working fine... when it comes to playing back the voice over through the headphones (or speakers), I can hear the track absolutely fine. I cannot understand why this should be. Has anyone experienced the same problem... and do you know how to solve it? HELP!.... Thank you.

Thanks for responding. Where do I find the checkbox that allows playthrough? What's it called... and which menu is it in? Thanks

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I am doing my first HD project and am experiencing a problem I cannot solve.
Using both a Sony HDV HC1 and Sony HDR FX1 as playback devices, I cannot get the video to play back from FCP using HDV1080i60. Under Video playback, the options for the HDV are grayed out for the only firewire options:HDV(1440 x 1080) 30fps and 25fps. However, the option exists under Print To Video, and when chosen, will send HD1080i60p video to the cam>hi def monitor.
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Hi David,
Three questions (I scanned your suggested URL twice but still wasn't sure).
1. With the Matrox can I run a clip from the FCP timeline, or a Quicktime movie, and see it fullscreen on the external monitor ... or do I get the FCP Apple monitor display with all the FCP windows open (as in how the boys demo the software in the trade shows)?
2. It says 'Broadcast Quality' but will it output to an HD consumer TV?
3. I've got a Sony HDV camera. Some people say I can use that as the interface, but I haven't been able to make it work. And some people say it won't work. If it's SUPPOSED to work, the manual says nothing, Sony's website says nothing ... and I can't figure what buttons to click to get it to work.
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If i have the latest version of FCP how could this be? Will FCP open a Final Cut Express file?
Sorry i don't know the exact error message at the moment, I'm trying to figure this out before I get back to my office this evening (where the computer and file is) at which point I have to contact the client and tell him what's up.
And feedback would be great, thanks for your time. Will give better details this evening if needed
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Any quick ideas would be great, I've put the client on hold til tomorrow. I did do a search here and though it wasn't clear, it seemed like someone was recommending a complete system re-install. I hope that's not the situation, thanks for your time!
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PS-If it has to be a new install of everything, exactly what do i need to make FCP update to 6.0.3? Just update FCP through the Software Updater then install the Pro Applications Update 2008-02? Or are there other update I need to get manually, thanks.
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Problem exporting from FCP using compressor

Out of the blue - I'm getting batch failures trying to export from FCP for use in a DVD. Immediately after selecting compressor for export, I get an error reading "That file already exists", and a new tab appears in the media browser with a lengthy character string. Compressor opens fine, and I select Best Quality 4:3 encoding for video and aiff48 for audio. When the batch is submitted - it promptly fails and blames FCP for generating an error.
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Hi:
How long is your movie?
The best workflow is FCP > Compressor > DVDSP.
You can encode your timeline directly to get MPEG2 video and Dolby 2 (AC3) audio files. Then import those in DVDSP and author your DVD.
Using Compressor you control the full encoding process. You can test with small parts of your movie (those where you got problems with iDVD) and find the best encoding options fopr your footage.
Of course the DVDSP learning curve is longer than iDVD but once you learned ir you probably never go back. Like iMovie and FCP.
To give you detailed info about what encoding settings to use you must post some info about your FCP project.
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When trying to export 1080i material from FCP through compressor into H.264 format the resolution box in the Inspector only allows up to 720p. Is there a compressor or FCP update or is this all the compressor will do at this time?

Since the preset you've mentioned is one of the Apple Advanced Format Conversions and NOT one of the HD DVD presets I'm guessing that you are encoding for a Quicktime movie and not a DVD. Any of Apple's included presets can be duplicated and customized - but you need to start with the correct preset. You might also want to consult some sources and review the various HD formats and their parameters. Compressor is capable of converting and encoding a phenomenal number of video formats - it won't prevent you from doing things that don't necessarily make sense (so don't necessarily blame Compressor if you do something that results in dreadful degradation of quality).
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I read it is also possible to down convert from High Definition to DV standard which can be captured into FCP through i.Link (Firewire) and edited using the DV Easy Setup. I assume I'd lose the HD quality but will it be noticeable on the web?
Also can you explain how to do this? I think I would then be able to cut on FCP 4.5HD.
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Does that mean I must upgrade to PCP6?
Yes. FCP 4.5 does not support HDV...HDV came out after FCP 4.5 was released. And the applications that were used at the time to capture HDV for that format are no longer supported apparently. LumireHD and HDVxDV.
I read it is also possible to down convert from High Definition to DV standard which can be captured into FCP through i.Link (Firewire) and edited using the DV Easy Setup. I assume I'd lose the HD quality but will it be noticeable on the web?
You can tell the camera to output a DV signal. And yes, there will be a quality difference...but not something that would be too noticable by the time you compress it for the web.
Also can you explain how to do this?
You have to look in the camera manual for that information.
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The FCP-X forum is located here:
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Hi,
I exported my 18 minute video with FCP quicktime (instead of quicktime conversion I did export quicktime video in FCP). When I try to add this video to DVD Studio Pro, The first thirty seconds of video import and all the sound imports but no video imports after that first 30 seconds.
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