Monitoring HD footage

I note that FCE supports the notion of a video monitor at edit-time, which sounds very useful. They talk about using a camcorder to convert from firewire to video which is clever, but no good for me for HiDef as my camcorder doesn't use firewire and isn't HDV (it's AVCHD on SDCard). Is there a way to do this? I'm currently on a Mac Mini, so not an ideal starting point, but if I upgraded to a Mac Pro and got another video card (or maybe the inbuilt card can drive 2 monitors, one of which could be a TV) would that work?

OK, that's a shame (and thanks!).
I was just wondering - is the firewire monitoring DV only (and not HDV)? So I could monitor at SD quality? Anything that enabled me to preview without bloody interlace artefacts would be a real boon, even if at reduced resolution.
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however, with sequence set for HD... If we go through Easy Setup on Final Cut Express and select DV-NTSC we are not getting any signal... This is with the sequence set to Apple Intermediate Codec 720/30.
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What are we missing? How do we get this to work. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Well after researching and researching, I set up the computer with the HDTV as a 2nd monitor. Using the Cinema Preview (Fullscreen) function, I can see the video we're editing on the fullscreen Samsung HDTV.
DVI-to-HDMI adaptor was the solution.
I realize this may not be the best solution for color correction, but it IS a solution for now... and one that is affordable. Where I finally got the tip that got me off in the right direction was from a guy on YouTube...
Frank's Tech Help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMNLOVn8hes
It wasn't the exact solution for me - but got me started in the right direction.
The G5 I have has the GEForce 5200 Ultra card, which has a DVI and ADC connector.
I used a DVI-to-HDMI adaptor to go to the HDTV.
I used and ADC-to-DVI adaptor to connect to my LCD monitor (what was originally hooked up to the computer).
Then in the settings for Displays, I set the resolution and arrangement of the monitors. By dragging the menu bar from the TV Display to the Monitor (in the arrangement dialog) it set the LCD Display as monitor #1.
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Yep, that's what I figured. Kinda lame, considering the other two thirds of my post workflow, After Effects and Resolve, seem to handle this without a hitch.
Should have spent the extra $300 for the Decklink 4K, although I have a feeling I would still be in a similar situation, given that my monitor supports 2048x1080 and I'm working at 2048x854, not to mention that it leaves me high and dry if I need to work with 4k in Premiere.
The workaround would be to work in a 2048x1080 timeline, but since we're working with different flavors of resolution, 1080 Phantom and 2K, 4K and 5K Epic footage with all different kinds of resizing, reframing and cropping, I would need a 2.40 matte over the edit/finish timeline to have some sense of the actual framing and then either nesting the sequence in a 2048x854 sequence or copy and pasting the final piece from the 2048x1080 timeline to the 2048x854 timeline. Neither of these options is very appealing to me when I could just be working natively in 2048x854 and skip all of this, like I am with AE and Resolve.
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Go to Preferences>Video Out and set that how you want, based on your system. If you set it desktop preview, you can go big on your monitor by using the key command Control V and use escape to get out of it.
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When viewing footage on an NTSC monitor, my footage looks quite different than it does in FCP on the computer screen. If I do color correction just based on the NTSC monitor for DVD output, will that DVD look the same once played on a regular DVD/TV and played on a computer's DVD player?
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I want to apologize if I keep sounding like a broken record and sounding like someone who doesn’t really understand what they are talking about. I first want to layout that I completely understand, and have understood, the dangers and the incompatibility issues associated with video and a computer monitoring system. Therefore I can safely say that I am working at a fcp station that allows me to monitor my footage on a true video monitor where the color spaces and gamma match.
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then click *Create Easy Setup* and give your new Easy Setup a relevant name and description (eg HDV 1080i50 with DV OUT, This is the easy setup to use to monitor DV from an HDV edit.)
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