More advanced smart album searches

Nothing special, but there should be a way to filter a search to only include pictures with faces in them. For example, I wanted to a do a search for pictures in Des Moines, IA that contained at least one face. Or have the ability to do a search that contains no faces. You get the idea.
Also, I'd like to be able to do radius searches for photos based on their location. e.g. 10 miles around my house.
Why can't we reference a smart album in another smart album? The list is restricted to dumb albums

there is it is called "name"
here is an example of how to find all faces that are not named currently
make a smart albumn
choose "Name" in first field
Then "contains"
The leave it blank
anywhere that it finds a name that is empty it sorts it to the smart folder and you then can go thru them that way
Please note that some photos have more than one face and even if one face is named and the others are not it still finds it and sorts it to the smart album

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Smart Album & search filter logic

Has anybody found a way to do more sophisticated Smart Album creation or search filters within Aperture other than the very simplistic methodology we appear to be limited to of for example keyword search with only two choices of "containing one or more", or "contains all"? I have tried hard to find a better way and am concluding it is a limitation in the current release.
I'm thinking hear of some of the multiple criteria smart folder/album/search options that even an relatively modest product like iPhoto offers, for example keyword "contains xxx", "does not contain yyy", "begins with aaa" etc.
Thanks
Dave
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Has anybody found a way to do more sophisticated
Smart Album creation or search filters within
Aperture other than the very simplistic methodology
we appear to be limited to of for example keyword
search with only two choices of "containing one or
more", or "contains all"? I have tried hard to find
a better way and am concluding it is a limitation in
the current release.
Yes - what you do is add a new "CUstom Metadata" criteria (I forget the exact name but it's something like that). You then change the dropdown for the metadata type to "IPTC"...
You can then use keywords in searches with much more complex logic around them, like the "contains" and "begins with" you are looking for. It does not fill in keywords for you but it offers a lot more options for criteria.

Smart Album search of a specific album?

Is it possible to limit the query of a smart album to a particular album. The "find" command seems to limit a search to a specific album while smart albums seem to query the entire project. I would like to have a smart album limit its search to a particular album (or possibly several particular albums).
I am using Aperture 1.5.3

Smart Albums can search within a Project, the entire Library or a all the Projects within a Blue Folder, depending on where you made the Smart Album. In other words, only 'containers' that images actually live in - remember that Albums only contain references back to Projects.
Ian

Smart Album Scope

I have been using Aperture 1.5.1 and have noticed what I consider to be strange or, at least, non-intuitive behavior for smart albums. I'm wondering if others have had the same experience and if Apple considers this normal behavior.
First, some background. I have 6 projects in three different folders that are stored at the root level of the Aperture library. Outside of these folders I have other folders containing smart albums that are intended to search all the projects for the appropriate images. These folders are, again, at the root level of the Aperture library. The smart albums were originally created in Aperture 1.1 inside the folders in which they currently live.
Prior to my update to 1.5, this worked spectacularly. However, after my update to 1.5, I found that all my smart albums were empty. The Apple documentation for Aperture claims that the scope of smart album search is influenced by where the smart album resides. Smart albums, according to the documentation, only search projects that are 'downstream' from the smart album. My smart albums were, therefore, not searching any projects because they were created in a folder with no projects. This information can be found here.
http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n302626
With this information, it made sense that my smart albums were empty. I'm not sure it was wise of Apple to change smart album behavior in this way between 1.1 and 1.5, but there you have it.
This was really disturbing because I like to keep my smart albums outside my folders with projects. Worse yet, it appeared as though I would have store all my smart albums at the root of my Aperture library to get them to search all my projects in the three different folders. That just felt ugly and very unaesthetically pleasing.
I found, however, that if I created a smart album at the root of the Aperture library and then moved that smart album to any other folder at any level relative to the projects, it retained its scope for searching realtive to where it was created.
In other words, it appears that the Apple documentation at http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n302626 needs to be changed to replaced every reference to where a smart album is placed to where a smart album is created. The scope of smart album searches appears to be dictated by where that album is created, not where it is stored.
So, my question to all of you is whether this is something the rest of you are observing? It seems strange to me, and I'm worried this is not what Apple intends and therefore represents a bug to them that they'll "fix" in the next release and thus destroy my smart albums again.
It seems to me it would make much more sense for Apple to remove this silly "scope of search based on location of album creation" behavior and just insert a line in the smart album setup that allows one to search particular projects or all projects. It seems that Apple has made an elegant search interface way to complex with the scoping issue.
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Dale
what you experience is exactly how it works. there are other threads about the smart album "problem", with the same outcome.
the problem is not really, how smart albums are working. if a smart album is CREATED based on the entire library, it will therefore search the entire library, regardless where you move it afterwards. if you create a smartfolder within a project, it should be project-bound, regardless where you finally store it. that makes sense.
however, the problem is the changed behaviour between previous versions and 1.5.1. smart albums that were created "unlinked" (somewhere in your structure but not within a project or while the library was selected) worked fine before but show no results since 1.5.1.
if someone only has a few smart albums, then this is quickly solved, just re-create them in the right location and move them to wherever you want afterwards. if you have created over a hundred smart albums for subjects, ratings, clients, models, agencies etc etc already, you're in trouble. and this would be me as example.

Question about smart albums - where does selection criteria operate

i maintain several versions of any given image. one for local printing, one for book printing and one for web; each with a different onscreen proofing profile. the versions for a given image are all in the same stack. put an appropriate key word (e.g. for book, for web, etc.) on each version in the hopes that i could create smart albums searching for the key words i wanted. it appears, however, that the search works only on the "pick" image in the stack. am i correct in this assumption?
wouldn't it be better if search brought up the version you were seeking?

wouldn't it be better if search brought up the
version you were seeking?
Try this: click on the "Ignore Stack Groupings" checkbox in the Query HUD for the Smart Album you're working in.

Smart Album with more than one criteria?

Can a single smart album have more then one criteria?
Every photo of my daughter in my library is tag with her name. I am trying to create a smart album using her name as the keyword that also rated 3 or more stars.
The steps I am taking are as follows:
1. Set the rating 3 stars or more. (instantly I see all photos in the library that are 3 or more stars)
2. Set keyword (my daughters name) with the condition, "include only the following" (the album still shows photos from step 1)
Any ideas?
Andre
Thanks,
Andre

Thank you, been trying to figure this out for hours and such a simple fix.
Thanks,
Andre

Smart Albums and Search ignoring tags / keywords

Why is it that once images are imported into PE7, and if their keywords and tags are edited in an external editor (eg. Picasa, Photoshop), PE7 doesn't seem to recognize these new keywords/tags in Search or Smart Albums?!
The weird thing is, if I open/activate these newly edited files, I can see in thier properties that the new keywords/tags can be read by PE7, but these descriptions don't show up as matching results when we do a search box or smart albums.
What is going on?
On the other hand, Picasa will read, update and pick up any tags and keywords that have been entered in PS7, almost instantly. Why can't PE7 do this???

It's a design limitation of PSE. When you first import an image into PSE, it will read the metadata from the image's file (keyword tags, date/time, caption, notes, star rating) and store it in your catalog (the database where PSE stores all of its information about your images). Once the image is imported into your catalog, PSE will never read that metadata again, so if you change it with an external tool, PSE won't see those changes.
As you've observed, a number of other programs will track changes made to a file's metadata, including Windows Live Photo Gallery and Adobe Lightroom.

EXIF "Flash" Search/Smart Album Broken?

It appears that, in Aperture 3.1.1, trying to search the EXIF Flash value using a Search or a Smart Album is broken. My Nikon puts the values "Flash did not fire" and "Flash fired" in the Flash field, however, trying to search for EXIF includes "fired", or anything else for that matter, returns an empty set. (I did get a set of about 6 photos in a project with 228 photos when I entered includes 0. Everything else fails.)
Is anyone else having this issue? Any work-arounds? I'm trying to select all of the "flash" photos and the "non-flash" photos to be able to adjust the white balance appropriately. Any better ideas on how to do that?

Works here with AP 3.1.1 and Nikon D80 images as follows:
Select 'Photos' in Library Inspector > New Smart Album
Add Rule > EXIF > Flash; Includes; Flash fired (or Flash did not fire) > 'Return' (Enter) key to apply.
Works as expected, but I had to use the correct wording and spacing used by the Metadata EXIF field.
If it still doesn't work for you, I can only think you might want to try the Troubleshooting Basics:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3805
Good luck.

AVI files - Search results different from Smart Album

I've noticed that when I use the iPhoto Search to filter all movies (.AVI files) that all my clips come up (eg. 700 clips in 2007). However, with a Smart Album I have set up to display the .AVI files, the last several weeks of clips seem to be missing (eg. 630 clips from the 2007 album). I've checked all the Smart Album criteria and they are correct. Is this a glitch in iPhoto or is there some other explanation?

macblueduck
Two possibilities:
1. There's something different in the later files that don't match the criteria of the search
or
2. Spotlight (as it is this that indexes the Library) is not working correctly. Try opening the Spotlight Preference Pane and go to the Privacy section. Drag the Pictures Folder in there, leave it a few moments and then drag it out again. This should force Spotlight to re-index the Folder.
Regards
TD

If I have a pic in more than one album, does iPhoto make more than one copy of that pic? When I search the file name on finder, it seems to be showing one copy of that file for every album it's in.

If I have a pic in more than one album, does iPhoto make more than one copy of that pic? When I search the file name on finder, it seems to be showing one copy of that file for every album it's in.

No it doesn't. Albums simply reference the photos in the Library. A single shot can be in 100 albus and use no extra disk space at all.
If you have the same shot in two Events then yes, the file is duplicated.
When I search the file name on finder, it seems to be showing one copy of that file for every album it's in.
The Finder doesn't really understand the iPhoto Library. It's quite possible for the iPhoto Library to contain many files with the same name. The Library also contains different versions of the same shot - thumbnail, originals and edited version. This is normal.
Regards
TD

More advanced mail search

How can I preform a more advanced email search by two or three criteria's. For example search for an email from [email protected] containing X within the email, with the subject containing Y?

Just ignore all the options and type the text you're searching for.

Trouble making a smart album with multiple search criteria

Hello,
I've been using Aperture 3 for a while now but never really created smart albums. Thought I'd give it a go this time around. My filter criteria are:
a) Select all images that have a rating of 1 star AND
b) Have a red colour label assigned to them.
The Filter HUD has the following settings:
a) Any/All pop up menu = All
b) Source: Project
c) Rating IS 1 star
d) Colour Label IS Red
The smart album adds images from the project that match the rating criteria even if they're not labelled "red". On the contrary, if unrated images that have a red label do not end up in the smart album (and correctly so, I must say).
My ultimate objective is to create 2 smart albums based on rating AND label color - 1 star & red goes to the client as proprietary, whereas 1 star & green goes up on Flickr as public.
Am I missing something? Please assist.
I look forward to a quick response.
Warm regards,
Faizan

The color label rule is puzzling, and does behave exactly opposite to what you'd expect: It shows the set of labels that are allowed.
You have to uncheck all labels you do not want ansd only keep the red label.
The active labels have a grey border, the others none.
Here is an example of an album with labelled images "red": Notice the grey border around the red button, and borders around the deselected buttons.
Was that quick enough?
Cheers
Léonie

New Album from Smart Album makes NEW VERSIONS of all files? Bug?

Got what I think is an oddball bug here, but see if any of you have experienced it.
Making a new album of the contents of a Smart Album with about 600 images resulted in the SBOD, a lot of time and disk activity and the creation of NEW VERSIONS of all the files populating the new album. This, of course, also doubled the number of files in the original Smart Album, since the keywords used are a match. First thinking it might be something I had not read in the manual, I grabbed the book and could not find this behavior listed…..so….my expected result is a new album with the identical contents of the Smart Album selected as the source.
I am creating a presentation for a client whose work is in multiple projects in a ~150GB library. All images are heavily keyworded, so making Smart Albums of specific elements of the work was easy. My intended workflow to get through this mountain of pix was to make Smart Albums of specific elements, then make New Albums from each, manually edit and reorg these albums individually, then combine my edits into a single book file.
Now the structure leading to this problem is as follows:
1) I created a single “main” folder to store all projects and other elements and hierarchy for this client. Clicking on this folder returns some 8500 images spanning multiple projects…all as expected.
2) At the top level of this “main” folder, I made about 20 Smart Albums to presort the main elements I wanted to include. I made the first Smart Album by clicking the icon in the top bar. The rest of the smart albums I made by duplicating the previous Smart Album, then changing keyword selection. I would select the new keywords I wanted, then de-select the ones that were from the album I had duplicated. The reason I did it that was for speed, there is little delay in displaying the items that were already searched for, and a significant delay in going from new. Anyway, somewhere in this process, I decided to organize my workflow further, so I created a new folder (calling it Smart Album Selects) at the same level as the Smart Albums, and then dragged the Smart Albums into the new Smart Album Selects folder. Still, no problem.
3) Later in my session, I went to create another new Smart Album, and this time I did so already in the Smart Album Selects folder. When I opened the HUD to select the keywords, the Keyword area and check box were greyed out!!! Weird, I though….so I simply duplicated an existing Smart Album from my Smart Album Selects folder, opened the HUD, and sure enough, all my keywords were there. I changed the keyword selection, and went on with work. During the day I did this same operation 3 more times, making 4 Smart Albums created the same way.
4) OK…here is the strange behavior. To make my new custom album from the Smart Album selects, I selected one of the Smart Albums, and clicked on the New Album icon. Got the expected dialog, make with 1 image or all images, selected all images, and instead of a new album popping up moments later, I got the SBOD, and the Activity Monitor said Aperture and my hard disk was cranking away. About 4-5 minutes later, Aperture became responsive again, and had created a new album. However, upon inspection, the album contained NEW VERSIONS of all the images that were in the Smart Album, about 600 files.
5) I went back and clicked on a different Smart Album in the same spot in the hierarchy…but it was one of the first ones I had created (meaning I built this BEFORE reorganizing into the Smart Album Selects folder). Tried making a new album again, with 1 image, worked fine, popped up instantly. Tried selecting 4 images, same thing, worked fine. Selected All, made album, worked fine.
6) Went back to the Smart Album I had the problem with, this time selected 4 images, make New Album, and sure enough the New Album had NEW VERSIONS of the pix again…OK, I went back to the top of my folder hierarchy, my “main” folder and made a brand new Smart Album by clicking the icon, and selecting keywords. Made a new album from that, no problem, popped up instantly, no new versions.
7) I then re-made all my Smart Albums at the top of the folder hierarchy, and they all work fine creating new albums. I got back to the task at hand…hopefully there is enough data here to let the Aperture engineers find this problem…Assuming, that is it is not just me misunderstanding some element in the program.
Sorry for the length, but has anyone else run into this??
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Nope, all the images at this point in my workflow have been unstacked, with the non-picked members of the original stacks discarded.
Now that it seems I am not the only one who has witnessed this behavior, what I am really trying to find out, is what is the definitive proper operation of this according to the Aperture group at Apple.
Assuming I have opened a Smart Album with images displayed, and no images are selected.
Is the correct behavior:
1) Selecting New Album makes a new Untitled Album (very quickly) with the identical contents of the Smart Album....OR...
2) Selecting New Album makes a new Untitled Album (slowly) with NEW VERSIONS of the contents of the Smart Album. (Also, depending upon the number of images, typically brings up SBOD and makes Aperture unresponsive until it is complete.)
Now what I expected to happen was #1, as it is what happens when I select New Album when a project is selected. Given Apple's human interface creedo for intuitive operation, I think this is the most intuitive choice, because I can't think of a good reason I would want to double the number of versions of all files in an album, unless I expressly told the app to do this.
Could an Apple guy provide the definitive answer, please...
Thanks in advance for your help.
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IPhoto '11 - Create album of photos NOT in any Smart Album

I've searched these forums and couldn't find anything to help me out. I'm using iPhoto '11, and have converted all my albums to smart albums, primarily using keywords. In my old scenario, using albums, I could create a "to file" album of photos that are not in any albums.
However, now that I'm using smart albums, there doesn't seem to be a way to identify a way of finding photos that are not in any pre-defined smart album?
Most of my smart albums rely on two or more keywords (ie. date and event), so I can't use the logic "if it has a keyword", that doesn't get photos missing from any smart album.
Any suggestions on manual or automated ways to do this? It would be nice to have a 'photo not in a smart album' criteria.
Thanks in advance,
Jon

No. A Smart Album is really a list of images found in response to a search. So you're looking for images not found by another search, and that's not a criterion for a Smart Album.
Regards
TD

Is there a way to burn multiple smart albums to DVD?

I just finished shooting a wedding. I have made a number of smart albums for Reception, Dance, Ceremony, etc...
Now I would like to burn all of these albums onto one DVD to send to the client. But I would like each album to be in its own folder on the DVD. I could go the long way and export each album into a folder on the desktop and then put them all in a burn folder.
Is there a more automated way of doing this, such as a plugin maybe? After a little searching I found BurnToDisc from Blue Room software but it looks like you can only select one album at a time to burn to DVD. I would like to be able to select all 8 or 9 albums and have them burned in one operation.
Thank you for any help
Bo

As I wrote:
There's only one problem, I'm not sure if this will work for smart albums in folders.
so unfortunately I was right. Smart Albums behave differently then regular Albums one of the biggest differences is the way Folders and Smart Albums interact.
With a regular album if it is in a folder clicking on the folder shows the images in the album. With smart albums this doesn't happen, the folder doesn't show the images in the smart albums it contains.
A few work arounds off the top of my head:
convert the smart albums into regular albums. With the smart album selected and in browser mode click on the magnifying glass icon at the top right to open the browser filter HUD. At the bottom of the filter HUD is a button New Album with Current Images click it and a regular album with the images from the smart album will be created. Once you've done this to the smart albums the procedure I wrote should work.
You could manually create the folders in the Finder and export each smart album individually to the corresponding folder you created.
Let us know if either of those work for you,
regards

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