More on PAL-NTSC

I have been tring to convert PAL-DV to NTSC for some time now from Media 100 8.2.2 through both Compressor & JES.
I have searched most of the posts here in Compressor/DVDSP & Creative Cow.
My problem is that if I export from Media 100 as by-ref file or self contained (which I think are more or less the same). When I drop the file into Compressor, select Advanced Format Conversion DV NTSC, Change the setting under the frame Control tab:-
Frame Controls:Custom
Resize Filter:Better(Liner Filter)
Output Fields:Bottom First
Deinterlace:Better Motion Adaptive
Adaptive Details:Checked
Rate Conversion:Better(Motion Compensated)
I see the file in the batch window then after about 3 or 4 minutes it fails.
In the drop down under failed it says:-
FAILED Codec Not Found.
The only way I can get it to work in Compressor is to export to Other as a QuickTime movie which takes for ever to export.
A 5 minute movie droped into Compressor takes about 12 hours
Is there something I am doing wrong & is there a quicker way?
I have not tried it with FCP yet as I am tring to crack this one first so any help would be greatfull.
I will be exporting to NTSC tape via my Sony DSR-11 and DVD through DVDSP.
Also I am tring to get a NTSC only DVD player & NTSC only
monitor to test my projects with so if any body knows of any resellers in the USA that will export to the UK please can you let me have some details or web site.
I will be back on line hopefully tomorrow night to check any replies.
thanks.
Wiggy.
G4 933 MHz 1GB RAM   Mac OS X (10.4.6)  

Hey Wiggy,
without knowing what type of flavor of media 100 you have, i will go out on a limb and say the SD version.
anyway, looking at your settings, you are creating a very complex conversion. i can understand if the media 100 ref file fails in compressor (not supported by default) and would recommend a QT export of said file.
another thing concerning the time it takes to encode a QT file: remember, you are creating a complex conversion on a laptop that has a internal IDE connection that has to handle the complex algorithm and all the system and software process. if this is what you are limited to then, hey, at least it converts it (albeit rather slow). IF there is a slight chance that you would have an external hard drive solution, then dump your original file there and do all the conversions from there (it will make things go a little faster).
as far as a NTSC DVD player and TV. the dvd player is easy, just purchase a multi-format dvd player, philips seems to make good ones ( i have 2 multi-format players personally) and the TV, try ebay
if anything, you might notice some strobing effects on an NTSC monitor, especially on whites, since the frequency is different (60 hertz v 50 hertz). i get that over here with all my PAL video! remember, this will only be visible on the CRT monitor and will NOT be visible on a computer monitor..
Mikey M.

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