Motherboard SATA Ports

I have just ordered a new Mac Pro to replace my G5. Does anyone know if the new models have the two extra SATA ports on the motherboard like the previous model?

Hi,
have a look at the Block Diagram here: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/HardwareDrivers/Conceptual/MacPro_0801/Articles/ProductDeveloperNote.html#//appleref/doc/uid/TP90005242
Seems to be that the extra two SATA-ports are still there.
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Motherboard SATA ports and Hard Drives?

Do the SATA ports of the motherboard support hard drives? If so what drives?
I just tried three different drives connected to the those ports. 2 drives would not allow me to even boot. 1 (the original MacPro drive) would allow me to boot but was freezing the computer.
I am booting off the regular drive connectors not the motherboard ports.
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You might, it is a tight fit getting those in, but I've done it twice now.
Or the external case and cables. I'm sure somewhere along the way I forgot to hookup the cables inside a drive case and had to make sure it was getting power, spinning up, and the data cable and jumpers (scsi) was set correctly.

Slow boot after connecting Blu Ray to motherboard SATA port

I have installed a Blu Ray burner (LG GGW-H20L) in the upper bay. It is connected directly to the lower SATA motherboard port. My 112D is in the lower.
All is working well (except have to use Finder burn instead of Toast for BD burns) apart from really slow boot up times.
I have tried SMC reset and PRAM reset.
Any ideas?
BTW I was pleased to be able to connect to the SATA port without taking out the fan assembly etc etc for anyone thinking of doing this.
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The "problem" was the the SATA-USB cable adapter I had been using previously when trying out the LG as external. I had left the adapter plugged in and powered up but not connected to anything. As soon as I depowered it fast boots restored!

Access MP motherboard SATA ports when using Apple RAID card

I asked this question in another topic and thought I'd have better luck in a separate topic.
I will soon be the proud owner of an early 2008 3.2 G Mac Pro with the Apple RAID card. I have been given a lot of great advice by the regulars to this topic area who gave me an idea that I wanted to confirm would work.
Since the internal HDs are connected through the RAID card, that leaves the iPass connector free to connect 4 more SATA drives to the motherboard. The suggestion was made to use an iPass to 4 x SATA cable to gain access. But where to attach and mount the drives? If not the optical bay, the only alternative is outboard, but what to do with the cable? I also learned here that there are two more SATA ports on the motherboard, and Newer Technology makes a cable that attaches to both and mounts in an empty PCI slot hole. Very neat.
So why not combine the two? I am not certain, but it appears that the connector genders are such that you could combine an iPass to 3 x SATA cable attached to the motherboard to a pair of the Newer Tech cables, then mount them to the PCI doors enabling the user to attach 4 more SATA drives with suitable for another RAID, boot Camp or whatever. Does this seem a reasonable solution? Would love some feedcak on this. Thanks.

This:
> But, when I install Mavericks to 512GB SSD in PCIe slot, installation finishes without problem, but the system NEVER boot up with that drive.
It is not uncommon to have trouble installing, cloning, or booting from a PCIe card - though the Sonnet Tempo Pro SSD is one of the reliable ones, still, you should install the OS first on SATA II normally, then move the SSD to its new home.
The fact the SSD works on the ODD port - have you asked or looked for firmware update or anything from Sonnet and what they have to say?
With three PCIe cards to contend with, they may interact - not unheard of - and the USB3 may need drivers first to work?

What do the Ram timings mean and does it matter which SATA port?

hi
is it a thread or could you guys add 1. i just bought 2x p55a- gd65 mobos. im sorry i do not build pc's all the time. i buy every few years and try to get up to date tech..
my problem is. each new tech i go up say kn8 to an9 ddr to ddr2 etc. some of the wording in memory set up changes and or more setting options. im not sure what the 4 main settings are. say i have memory that is 8-8-8-24 and want to make it 9-9-9-24. im not sure exactly which settings to change.. i think 1 settings has cl in the wording- i know what cl is- im not sure of the others.. this lil bit of info added to the manual would help us simple folks a lot..
well maybe you guys could start another thread- maybe you can sticky them. or put all of this in a general new p55 build thread.. but.
i noticed in the manual for my 2 new p55a- gd65 and or on the mobo. the satas are stacked 2 in a stack which one is sata 1 and sata 2. its not clear in the manual. i want to guess sata 1 is the 1 closest to the mobo or pcb and 2 is on top.. i have not checked yet. but what about the io plate and say usb. i guess some of them are stacked and maybe a few of them. which is stack 1 or usb 1 and 2 etc. again id guess the 1 closest to the mobo is 1. but what about if it is a few different stacks. where would the count start from top of mobo or the bottom up.. lil things like this can snag us simple folks. but in less than 1/3 of a page in the manual for these issues could be explained with ease or by adding a few numbers to the photos etc. if i remember right my abit mobos always added the lil numbers what ever to the system photos or drawings. it helped to set up the system faster and helped even more us that do not build systems often.. we should not have to guess- a few simple lil numbers on the drawings would be sweet.
thank you if you guys could start a thread and answer these few things- i know it would help me a lot. i will have the rest of my 2 system builds by the end of the week.. i was just reading on the msi flash drive thingy- its seems cool. as long as my drives like it etc- i have 1x 512mb 1x 1g and 1x 2g drives. im not sure how much space it needs exactly. im not sure it said anything about that. it just said- make sure you have extra space- but not how much? i want to guess my 1 gig drive will be enough. i have to make sure i know what letter it will be called etc.. but i think i will be ok.. i more want to use memtest- i hope my bios will be up to date- or good enough to get it running- but i will check and see what is out and download it maybe burn it to disc etc.. i have a few days to get all of this together..
* mods feel free to move this post if need be. i started this post here because its memory related or part of it anyway.. im not sure it is threads for these lil things- maybe sticky s in another area. im not trying to take over the thread or anything. im new here..
thanks in advance.. see ya..

The timing explanations are all over the net. For instance, at techpowerup, there is page explaining all the timings.
http://www.techpowerup.com/printarticle.php?id=131
An excerpt from the webpage.
Quote from: http://www.techpowerup.com/printarticle.php?id=131
Introduction
Have you ever wondered what those numbers “2.5-3-3-8” or “2-2-2-5” and so on mean? Or have you seen words like “CAS” and “tRCD”? These are the timings for the memory, or the speed at which it processes certain commands. This whole settings area can be quite confusing and you have to have a certain knowledge of it, if you plan on overclocking. But some of you may just be plain curious as to what they are.
Rated Memory Timings.
* CAS (tCL) Timing: CAS stands for Column Address Strobe or Column Address Select. It controls the amount of time in cycles between sending a reading command and the time to act on it. From the beginning of the CAS to the end of the CAS is the latency. The lower the time of these in cycles, the higher the memory performance.
e.g.: 2.5-3-3-8 The bold “2.5” is the CAS timing.
* tRCD Timing: RAS to CAS Delay (Row Address Strobe/Select to Column Address Strobe/Select). Is the amount of time in cycles for issuing an active command and the read/write commands.
e.g.: 2.5-3-3-8 The bold “3” is the tRCD timing.
* tRP Timing: Row Precharge Time. This is the minimum time between active commands and the read/writes of the next bank on the memory module.
e.g.: 2.5-3-3-8 The bold “3” is the tRP timing.
* tRAS Timing: Min RAS Active Time. The amount of time between a row being activated by precharge and deactivated. A row cannot be deactivated until tRAS has completed. The lower this is, the faster the performance, but if it is set too low, it can cause data corruption by deactivating the row too soon.
tRAS = tCL + tRCD + tRP (+/- 1) so that it gives everything enought time before closing the bank.
e.g.: 2.5-3-3-8 The bold “8” is the tRAS timing.
(The 2.5-3-3-8 figure is just an example for memory timings.)
These are the four timings that you would see when memory is being rated. It is in the order of CAS-tRCD-tRP-tRAS. The lower these timings, the higher the performance of the memory. Some motherboard manufactors (DFI for example) list the timings in their bios CAS-tRCD-tRAS-tRP.
Certain memories can take tighter (lower) timings at higher speeds. These are the more expensive memory modules out of the bunch. There are also other timings to consider in your BIOS. Not all boards will have options like these.
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It doesn't matter which sata port on the same controller you insert a connector. This is not like the PATA controller where master and slave can be determined by the end or middle connector.

Do the 8200 elite CMT motherboard SATA ports support SATA port multipliers?

I have an HP-Compaq 8200 elite CMT. I'd like to expand my SATA connection capacity using a SATA port multiplier. Specfications for most of them indicate they work only with motherboards that support the SATA PM / port multiplier feature. Does my motherboard support PM?
Thanks!

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Paul,
You have one of the models.
Most Intel PCs that I have come across don't support SATA port multipliers except for MACs.
Paul, send me a PM.
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Z87-GD65 can't use 3TB disk drives on Intel SATA ports

I've been happily using my Z87-GD65 for several months now with a 256G SSD for Windows 8.1, and 4*2T spinning Seagate drives. I decided it was time to make 'em bigger. So I plugged in a 3TB Seagate ST3000DM001 on one of the Intel SATA ports. The motherboard doesn't recognize there's a drive there at all. If I go ahead and boot, it's very slow to come up and Windows does recognize the drive, but it's unusably slow and eventually just hangs.
Ok... Flash the BIOS on the disk. No better.
Flash the MB BIOS. No better.
Plug in a WD 3T Red drive. Same exact symptoms.
Try different Intel SATA ports. Same symptoms.
Both drives work fine on two other completely different systems (both old LGA1155 systems).
Plug the drive in to the ASM1061 ports on the Z87-GD65 and poof... works like a champ. 170MB/sec from the Seagate, 150MB/sec from the WD.
Well, that's something, but I had intended to replace the 4*2T drives with 4*3T drives. Using the ASM ports is not the answer.
I checked the hard disk drive test report and it claims the ST3000DM001 was tried and works. So I'm pretty stumped. Old MB BIOS didn't work, new MB BIOS doesn't work, old Seagate firmware doesn't work, new Seagate firmware doesn't work, WD doesn't work, multiple ports don't work.
Surely other people are using large drives on these MB's.
Hints?

It does help knowing other people are getting the same hardware to work. Gives me hope.
My first thought was "ain't no way it's the OS" since the MB isn't showing the drives on the display of SATA devices. But just to do a quick check I slipped in a Fedora drive and booted and wow... no problems at all with using the 3T drives. Motherboard still claims no knowledge of them, but Fedora uses 'em fine.
ok... Update the Intel chipset drivers and the IRST and reboot and... it's better. Still broken, but better. Takes about a minute to boot instead of the usual 12 seconds, but once it's up it's working ok best I can tell. So it's getting hung up on something during boot.
Fine... reset the CMOS, PITA though that is since I have to yank the SLI graphics card to get to it.
Put it back together, boot, and... Windows won't boot.
I'm about ready to throw a tantrum but get it together and just start trying things. Yank all the drives but the SSD. No. Boot from Fedora. No. Yank the second graphics card. YES! Put it back in again. YES! Guess I didn't get it seated right the first time, or something. Sure felt ok going in, but I won't argue with results.
Boot W8.1 and... bingo... up in 11 seconds with 3*3T drives in it. And the CMOS claims to see the drives now.
Stripe 'em in Windows software and CrystalMark says it can read 490MB/s and write 450MB/s.
That'll do. Thanks.

Which of my sata ports should I use?

I have this harddrive [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00471G8CC/] but I want to make sure I'm using the best sata port for it. My desktop is the CQ5720F, here's the link to the motherboard specs [http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02552467&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en...]
It says I have sata 1 and 2 under "internal connectors" but I have 4 sata ports. So that's the problem, I don't know which one to use. Right now I have it plugged into the one labeled "Sata 3". What should I do?
Thanks, Travis
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The specs are incorrect. All 4 SATA ports are the same and are SATA2.0 ports. I doesn't really matter what port you use, however I would put the main hard drive on #1, secondary HDDs on #2 and #3, and the CD/DVD on #4.
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Installing Windows on drive attached to extra SATA port

I posted this incorrectly into the MacBook Pro so I have reposted here:
I have a Mac Pro with 4x500GB drives in RAID 10. Since bootcamp can't be installed on this RAID setup I took the stock apple 250GB drive and put it into an external SATA enclosure.
I have since booted to that external sata disk (by holding down the option key during boot) installed bootcamp and partitioned that drive for windows XP. So the drive now has both OSX and a partition for XP that I made via bootcamp. After that was finished I clicked the key to "install Windows now" or whatever.
The plan here is to just turn on that external drive whenever I need to run windows or install firmware updates for the Mac since apple can't seem how to do either with a software RAID set in place on the existing 4 internal drives.
After doing the above steps I now have 2 problems:
1. When booting from a XP SP2 disk to install XP the only drives seen are the 4 internal ones and not the extra sata port that is connected. This leads me to believe that I need to slipstream drivers for the extra two unused sata ports into the install disk but am not sure, I am hoping for some input.
2. Now when I power off the external SATA drive the only way I can boot back into my normal OSX RAID10 setup is by holding down the 'option' key and choosing one of the 4 RAID10 disks that are listed. After I do this it boots fine but I have to do this every time I boot my system which get really old.
If I don't hold the option key down down the system will just boot to a black screen asking me to "insert boot media". It seems like it is stuck in the bootcamp mode so I need to figure out how to get out of it.
I wonder if I can just uninstall bootcamp from the external SATA drive to fix this so that my system will boot normally? I will give this a shot tomorrow b/c I don't have time tonight but I appreciate any helpful advice.
If anyone has any ideas on how to get XP installed while running RAID please share. I know I can use an IDE drive but I have 2 optical drives installed so that is out for the moment but I may need to do that if I can't get the SATA option working.

The enclosure is usb and eSATA (external SATA) the drive is connected via a SATA cable to a SATA 3.5" adapter plate on the back of the mac pro that is connected to one of the unused extra 2 SATA ports that are tucked away behind the heatsinks on the Mac Pro's motherboard. So it is SATA all the way to the motherboard, I am not using USB at all.
As noted above, yes you can install XP on an IDE hard drive and put it into the optical bay area but I have two DVD burners installed there and would like to use the setup I have now if possible.
I was able to fix my 2nd issue listed above thanks to a suggestion in another forum of going into my startup disk options and choosing my RAID 10 setup. Now my system boots fine.
So back to the issue of installing XP on one of those extra unused SATA ports, if we can find out what brand controller those 2 ports are (intel, siig, silicon image, etc.) we could slipstream the drivers into the XP CD and then the windows install should work. Coming from a PC backgrounds and having installed various versions of windows literally at least 500+ times I have had to use the 'F6' optoin to install SATA/RAID/SCSI drivers from a floppy hundreds of times. The problem here is that we don't know what brand hardware it is or if it is possibly an issue with EFI not enabling those ports or something unless OSX boots, because booting to OSX connected to one of those extra ports works fine.
I guess I should also just ask again to be clear: You CAN'T install bootcamp on a RAID setup correct? Because I get an error everytime I try to run the bootcamp setup assistant. Geez, I wish apple would just enable the native RAID support built into the intel southbridge, that would solve the bootcamp problem, the RAID 10 setup problem where you can't setup RAID 10 via the GUI, and also the fact that you can't install any firmware updates to the box.
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How diagnose the extra SATA ports on the Mac Pro (early 2008) logic board?

I have had two SSDs in an OWC multi-mount in the second optical bay, one for Lion and one for Photoshop scratch. However, I recently began having intermittent boot problems. Sometimes there wouldn't be an Apple symbol upon boot/reboot, yet sometimes there would and the computer would boot. I have not experienced any crashes, kernel panics or such.
I thought the Lion SSD was faulty so installed Mountain Lion on the scratch drive, a Mercury Electra 3G which I have recently received as a replacement from OWC due to a previously faulty SSD. However, immediately there were boot problems from that SSD.
I have a feeling there is something wrong with the two extra SATA ports on the logic board. I am now booted off the Lion SSD placed in an external USB enclosure, which works but is a bit slower (I will get a bracket to install that SSD in the ordinary internal bays).
My question is how I can diagnose the logic board generally and specifically the extra SATA ports. I have Tech Tool Pro 6. I also thought I had AHT but on the Leopard DVD 1, which came with the Mac Pro (10.5.2) and on which AHT is supposed to be there is no trace of AHT. Odd. Booting from that DVD will only bring up the Leopard installer.
Btw I do think the Electra is broken because I am unable to boot ML from it in the USB enclosure.
Grateful for any ideas how to check my logic board.
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If you could move the drives easily to another location then you could test the drives and also - make backup images! just to be safe. SSDs and their firmware and problems are almost all too common, even this last June a large issue with SandForce which OWC uses in some/most of theirs, and I get the feeling they are usually behind in testing and sending out firmware updates.
Corsair, Crucial and Intel have all had issues since it surfaced in May.
Diagnosing a motherboard with Apple Service Diagnostic CD is one thing. Swapping out SATA cables though no. WD Lifeguard does check communication to an SATA device drive and can - but you need to see the device in Windows or their boot CD (linux I imagine). Quite good utility though maybe not for an SSD.

Internal SATA port

I have installed a Pioneer Blu-ray drive in the second optical drive slot and made the data connection directly to the unused SATA port on the motherboard. All Blu-ray things work perfectly, but now I am unable to boot from my system disk in my superdrive. Also just experienced a problem with a Photoshop update DMG file that won't install. Error message simply says update failed.
Has anyone experienced a similar problem?
Thanks in advance!

Look for cuts or nicks in the optical drive flat cable. It is easy for it to get pinched when the drive carrier is pushed back in place. Make sure the DVD drive is using the end connector of the flat cable.

K330 sata port question

Hello all, Im new to the forum and to Lenovo.
I bought a K330-77273GU last week.
I would like to add another HD and would like to know if the sata ports on the motherboard are 3 Mb/s or 6 Mb/s?
Two ports are red (being used for the current HD and CD drive) and the two spare ports are orange.
Thanks.

hey K330_Owner,
From : http://www.lenovo.com/psref/pdf/icbook.pdf
there will be two 3 Gb/s and two 6 Gb/s sata cables.
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Sata port 1-6 not working

none of the sata port on the side of my motherboard work. only the 4 sata port place left of ide port work using 1.4 bios, also my d-led isn't working either everytime i install it on the motherboard the computer wont boot up only 3 long beep.

Sounds like an issue with the Intel ICH10 which controls the sata ports? I might be having the same problem.
I added a WD 160 SATA drive and the bios sees it, but the operating system does not. I used an external usb to attach the drive and vista sees it.
I was also randomly getting those three long beeps. I would open the case, detach and reattach cables, check to make sure everything was seated properly....near the end I thought it was that the power cable wasn't in all the way tight (every time I would attach the WD 160 I would pull the power cable first).
In the end I still can't make Vista see the WD 160. It's not shown under Administrator Tools>Computer Management>Storgage>Local
I can see the dvd drive but not the hd. The dvd drive is Sata port 6 and the hard drive is port 5. I tried different ports with no luck.
I'll prob post this separately, but just wanted to describe it in case any of it sounded familiar.

Pavilion a620n Sata ports

My original hard drive crashed the other day. When I opened the side of the case I noticed it has two sata ports on the motherboard. So I went out abd bought a Seagate 250GB Sata drive. After I installed the drive, I went into the Bios and checked to make sure the Sata was enabled and the drive was recognized. Oddly the bios did not list the drive and it only listed IDE drive. Nothing for Sata is in the main screen. I am just a little confused how the Motherboard can have the sata ports, yet nothing in the Bios for configuring them! I tried updating the Bios and have the latest version 3.15 06/06/2005. Is there something I am missing? I have looked on the motherboard for jumpers hoping there would be something for the Sata. Yet nothing....
Any help would be great!

Sorry, never mind, I figured it out. Oddly, I had to use the jumper on the sata drive. Had place the jumper to limit it to 1.5 connection and not the 3. Never had to do that before, usually the motherboard always detected it and ran fine on other computers.
Thanks anyway.

Need more SATA ports

I need several more Sata Ports for my desk top.
Does Hp make a add-on board?
If so who sales / price range / part number
I am needing something that is plug and play.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
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Hitman47, welcome to the forum.
All of the add-on SATA cards that I found require a PCI Express x4, 8 or 16 to operate properly. Your motherboard only has one PCIe x16 slot and three PCIe x1 slots. Therefore, I don't believe that you can add a card to your system.
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