Motion 5 with FCP 7?

Hi
If I buy MOTION 5 will it work with my FCP 7.0.3? Can I import MOTION 4 projects into 5 as well?

Right you are…broken. Here it is again.
Russ

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Motion with Avid

I need help badly! I'm on this project that has a tight deadline. I've used motion with FCP in the past with no problem. But for the life of me I can not get the alpha channel to work with Avid. I'm not real knowledgeable in this field. Could someone walk me through this? I want to create titles in motion then export them to QuickTime, then import the QuickTime file within my avid project and lay it over video on my sequence. How do I do this? I'm desperate!!!

I haven't used or had to provide elements to an Avid system in about 5 or 6 years now, but I hope I can help.
I'm not sure if avid has support for a QT with imbedded alpha now, (it didn't then)
When I would render out elements from Flame, Combustion or AE, I would render out both the fill and the alpha.
In AE and Combustion I would render out via the Avid Meridian codec the fill and then the alpha.
If the Avid still requires a separate alpha, you can easily render out the two elements in Motion.
First render your fill (Lossless animation or Avid codec if it's still available standalone.) Click options on the Export Dialog, click the Options tab, for Color, select Color from the drop down menu.
Then render your alpha (to the same codec). Click options on the Export Dialog, click the Options tab, for Color, select Alpha from the drop down menu.
I'm fuzzy on the import into Avid since it's been so long and I'm not sure if it's changed any.
I really hope that sets you off in the right direction.

Motion to FCP round trip color shift

I've been searching all over the web and have found many posts in various forums about the gamma shift that occurs when Motion projects are imported into FCP and then exported out as an MOV (ProRes or H.264), but have yet to find a suitable solution. All of Apple's documentation seems to indicate that using Motion with FCP should be as easy as importing a Motion project to the timeline. Does anyone know how to prevent the gamma shift that ultimately makes Motion elements in the exported MOV appear washed out?
I know that I can enable FCS color matching in QuickTime to adjust the appearance of the MOV, but I'm sending this file to clients that don't use Final Cut and won't have this option; especially those on PC.

Same problem. No grade or LUT. Mac Pro Quad, BM Intensity Pro, JVC DT-V20L1UA.
My test involved NTSC color bars. I exported 10 sec bars out of FCP to a QT, reimported them and cut them back into my sequence. At that point, the imported bars were identical to the fcp bars I'd started with.
After I'd SENT sequence to Color, the bars changed, mostly in lighter in contrast & brightness plus a little hue shift.
After the scene was rendered in Color and round-tripped to FCP, the new "look" came back to fcp
Could it be in the conversion of FCP YUV to Color RGB
Nate Hubbard

Two Radeons 3870 with FCP and Motion?

Hi!
Have you tried to use two 3870 with FCP and Motion?
I just wanted to have all 512MB of video RAM for my canvas and use the second card with my Matrox MXO to display broadcast preview.
I know it could be risky, but as I remember earlier the problems shows only while rendering some of the plugins in FCP (my test was on 2006).
Do you have any experience with pair of 3870 cards?
I've just ordered two of them:)
regards
arti

From what I've read on this forum, FCP doesn't work properly with two video cards.
-DH

Motion 5 and compressor 4 with FCP ?

Hi,
Is it possible to use motion 5 and copressor 4 with FCP 7 ?
Thanks
Ivan

Sort of – by exporting and reimporting as clips. There is no round-tripping. For example, you can't send a clip as a Motion project to Motion4, save and have the clip update in FCP. You'd have to export a clip (or sequence) as a self-contained movie and bring it into Motion (or Compressor), make your changes, exporty and reimport as a clip, see how you liked the result, etc. Much easiier to stay within FCS.
Russ

Will Motion 5 work with FCP 7?

Since I am not interested in downgrading to iMovie Pro, will the new Motion work ( templates, etc. showing up) with FCP 7?

Check out the Motion 5 section here: https://discussions.apple.com/community/professional_applications/motion_5
Alan

Transitions with FCP after bring clip to Motion

Here is my problem. I brought a clip into Motion, and applied some effects, etc...and it looks great so now it is in FCP. The next clip was not edited in motion, just a regular clip edited in FCP. When I apply a transition it doesn't let me change the length of the transition. I can successfully change the transition between 2 normal clips, but I'm unable to change the transition length between a clip that was edited in motion and a regular FCP clip. Any suggestions?

Did you export the Motion clip out of Motion, then import it into FCP? If so, then you lost your 'handles'.
Have you tried 'Send to Motion' from FCP...work on it there, then bring it back to FCP? That's probably the best workflow.
Either that or when you send a clip to Motion, make sure you include media prior to and after your known in/outs, so you have extra media to make a transition with, when you export it out of Motion.
K
EDIT - at the very least, you should be able to use a transition on your current Motion clip, but you'll need to make the transition work from within available media on the Motion clip...like 'beginning on' or 'ending on'.
Message was edited by: Kevan D. Holdsworth

Transfer from FCP to Motion with video effect

I am trying to transfer a clip from fcp that has a video effect (matte) wehn I open it in motion the matte is no longer there, how to I transfer the clip into motion with the effect still intacted?

None of your effects will carry over to Motion. Speed changes, color corrections, keys, etc... Why? See this:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=1375867&#1375867
You can do as avidvid says and export to "fix" your effects then bring the file back in, but that won't carry the alpha over...
Patrick

Animation with FCP? (or Motion)

I created this short animation in a class using Adobe Premiere.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dv7ifASoYk
I found it extremely easy to use in conjunction with Adobe Illustrator. I would basically design the parts in Illustrator, save the .ai file and I would be able to import the file into Premier and animate from there using the movement tool.
But that's at school. I have FCP at home and I would like to work on things at home.
I can't even figure out how to get a vector image into FCP with a transparent background.
I've tried Photoshop and Illustrator, multiple file types (.psd, .ai. .tiff .png).
I even tried importing a .png in Motion with the video and it distorts the vector image completely.
Anyone know the secret recipe to get a vector image into FCP with a transparent background?

Any way to import a logo that has a transparent background?
Make a TIFF or PNG that has either an Alpha channel or is pasted onto a transparent background.
Transparency will composite automatically. Depending on how you make a graphic with an Alpha channel, you might have to adjust settings in the Composite Mode menu.

How to employ RAID with FCP, Motion etc.

Quick question I'm in the process of initialising an 8.0Tb RAID (and boy is it taking a long time in the background) and when I start my next project I'm wondering if there is an optimum way to organise my new workflow. I once remember reading in Premiere Pro that you should keep your project files off your program file drive, and your capture scratch on a third drive, although that's on one of those awful PC's does anything apply like that on Mac with FCP? Should I use the RAID as a capture scratch, and keep project files and everything else where? Any working practices I need to adopt with a RAID?
And I've tried to find speed test to download to check the speed on write and read on the RAID but can't find the AJA Kona test to download, anybody know of another, hyperlink?

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IMac which one with FCP 5.1.4 ?

Hello, I have been using a Powerboog G4 with my FCP no problem so anything would be better!!
Now that I have FCP Studio with Motion and would like to to upgrade. Can't afford a tower... So I'm getting an iMac but I'm stock with which modeel and graphics card is best.
The 20" it comes with 2 400firewires, the 24" with one 400 and one 800 firewire. Save the money or spent an extra $500??
I edit DV from a Panasonic DVX100. Except for Motion I have no other need for a super duper video.
Three options ( withstudent discount)
$1,900:
iMac-20", 2.33GHz, 2GB SDRAM, ATI Radeom x1600/256MB-VRAM
$2,336:
iMac-24", 2.33GHz, 2GB SDRAM, NAVIDIA GeForce7300 GTO/128MB-SDRAM
$2,449:
same as aboe 24" but w/NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT 256MB SDRAM
To the above I have to add Apple care plan. If I get the more affordable option I can also buy an exteranl drive. with the other option, I'll wait.
Thank you in advance for your feedback.
iMac Mac OS X (10.4.8)

It's always advisable to get the best that you can afford, but if you're going for the imac, you need an external drive so I'd recommend going for the middle option with a decent external HD.
Have you absolutely checked that you can't source maybe one of the earlier Mac Pro models via an authorized reseller or maybe the apple refurb store (the refurb store currently has one at $2199, I'm sure you could find one cheaper).
The imac is compromised in terms of expandability - do a search on this forum for more details.
Having said that, I coped for a couple of years with FCP 4.5 and a G4 imac and an external HD with no probs, so if you can cope without the expandability and you'll be sticking with SD you'll be OK - don't forget FCP 6 is just around the corner and you'll have to check the system requirements carefully to see if it'll run on an imac should you decide to take this route.

Compressor 2 with FCP 5.1 workflow

I've been reading about using Compressor 2 with FCP 5.1 and have been a bit surprised by some of the following suggestions:
These are from Larry Jordan's website:
"Compressor 2 has problems with both motion estimation and 2-pass VBR. If you are using Compressor 2 make sure to select 1-pass VBR Better and set Motion Estimate to Better. Using Best settings creates very poor video.
There is a lot of talk on the Apple discussion site that 2 pass VBR gives artifacts, especially on transitions and is generally to be avoided.
To compress the file in Compressor, DON'T use "Export to Compressor" in FCP -- it doesn't work reliably. Instead, open Compressor, then drag the file into Compressor and adjust settings.
In their effort to tackle the problem of overshooting data-rates in C1, Apple seems to have ruined the quality of 2-pass VBR encoding to some degree. I've seen quite a few cases now where 2-pass VBR doesn't look as good as the simple 1-pass.
The new version of Compressor has technology in it that is not duplicated using QuickTime conversion.
I have never been comfortable with exporting using QuickTime Conversion. For one thing, it automatically down-samples your movie to 8-bit. For another, it will not be as good a quality as Sorenson Squeeze for the web, or Compressor for DVD. Third, Apple removed the MPEG-2 compression option with the release of QuickTime 7. Finally, the codecs it contains, while adequate for home use, are not up to professional standards either in terms of file size or image quality."
So, from what I gathered from Larry's website...
Use VBR 1 pass instead of VBR 2 pass for best quality
Use Motion Estimate Better instead of Best
Compressor offers better quality compression than Export>Quicktime Conversion
Don't use Export>For Compressor from FCP, instead export a FCP reference file from Export>Quicktime and use that in Compressor.
What do you think?
Thanks,
Richard
ref:
http://www.larryjordan.biz/articles/ljdvdexport.html
http://www.larryjordan.biz/articles/ljbitrate.html
DUAL G5 2GHZ Mac OS X (10.4.6) 2.5 GIGS RAM

Well, different "experts" with slightly different views.
This from hanumang's response to Jerry Hofmann over in the FCP discussion forum:
FCP unrendered to Compressor 2?
hanumang, have you seen a quality difference using the compressor method?
Jerry
In my experience, yes, there is most definitely a difference in quality.
For sake of completeness, when it comes to exporting for DVDSP, this is how I'd break it down:
File > Export > Using Compressor on unrendered timelines in FCP. The best way to do things with FCP & Compressor - especially true if (as mentioned) you're working in some compressed format like DV and doing lots of filters, motion effect and compositing within FCP. In my experience, color correction comes out much cleaner on DV-sourced footage.
On a 1-10 scale, with 10 being the best that Compressor outputs, this method is a 10
File > Export > Using Compressor on rendered timelines in FCP. While inferior to #1, this tends to work better on high-motion footage that needs to be encoded at a low bit rate (which I'd consider 5 Mbps or lower) than #3 because of the frame-by-frame processing. Also, transitions tend to come out better (again, at lower bit rates).
I'd rate this method a 7 out of 10
File > Export > QuickTime Movie with DVD Studio Pro Markers, then import into Compressor 2. While this rates at the bottom, in many cases it's hard to distinguish the output from #2 & #3 unless you're encoding at a 5 Mbps or lower bit rate
I'd rate this a 6 out of 10
In terms of encoding times, if #3 is my baseline, #2 takes about 2-3x as long. #1 takes about 4-5x as long as #3 for me (depending on the level of complexity).
Dual 1.42 G4, 2GB RAM, 9800 Pro, 20" Cinema; Mac OS X (10.4.6) Final Cut Studio 5.1

Experiencing 'lag' & other issues with FCP 7.0.3 on MacBook Pro...please help!

Hi all
Man, I've been having SUCH frustrations with my MBP running FCP lately - and it used to be 100% no more than 6 months ago?
Basically what happens is that the Canvas window starts lagging after a while - it sometimes looks as if the external HDD can't keep up with FCP anymore, regardless of whether I use my Mac HD as scratch drive, or my external. And I've tried it across numerous externals... I'm beginning to wonder if it's my logic board or GPU, or perhaps even my FW800 port?
Also, when I'm editing on my timeline and add new clips to the edit, this behaviour picks up. Sometimes, when I'm scrubbing or skipping through clips on the timeline, the Canvas displays funky green frames, starts laggin, or the worst: the frames between one cut and another jump around like crazy, even if I just play back at normal speed.
I've done everything I could - cleared space on my Mac HD (it's now got more than 50% free), repaired and verified disk permissions, run AppleJack, etc. etc.
Does anyone know what it could be? I'm seriously considering a fresh install of Mac OS X 10.6 and FCS2, as well as upgrading from 4Gb to 8Gb RAM, but what bothers me most is how this used to never happen, and it's not like the work I'm doing is more intense or heavier than anything I've done before.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
Here's my exact specs:
Model Name:          MacBook Pro
Model Identifier:          MacBookPro5,3
Processor Name:          Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed:          2,8 GHz
Number Of Processors:          1
Total Number Of Cores:          2
L2 Cache:          6 MB
Memory:          4 GB
Bus Speed:          1,07 GHz
Boot ROM Version:          MBP53.00AC.B03
SMC Version (system):          1.48f2
Sudden Motion Sensor:
State:          Enabled

Andy
Thanks... But again, why would I have to do this now when it was never a problem before?
In any case, all the footage I'm using in this project is XDCAM EX, the only difference being that some footage is 720, while other footage is 1080, and then there's also a variation in terms of interlaced and progressive footage accross the board (it's a rock band documentary, don't ask! )... Could this have something to do with it?
I kinda doubt it, cos one of the TV shows I work on has the same codec, resolution and other settings accorss the board, and I experience the same stutter on these projects...

Problems with FCP playback on external LG monitor

I have just purchased an LG 22EA63 external monitor to use with FCP 7. Monitor connects fine, works ok with other programmes but once in FCP , when i transfer both canvas and viewer windows onto the monitor, playback in not smooth with flickering streaks as if the footage is interlaced (even though my current project only has progressive footage). However it gets even worse with other FCP projects that contain interlaced footage - playback on canvas is even more jerky and streaky, and the viewer window is unable to play back most alterations made to clips (especially anyhting to do with motion or speed), making clips jaggered and unwatchable.
Any ideas what the problem is? I'm assuming it is to do with the LG screens' native resolution which is 1080p , but that doesn't explain why it is failing to play progressive clips at full quality.. Also I couldn't find another resolution setting that worked.
I am connecting via HDMI to a MacBook Pro (2.8ghz Intel Core Duo, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, native screen res: 1440x900).
Obviously if I cant fix this I'll have to take the monitor back, any ideas or advice would be much appreciated.
Thank you!

I guess it's more accurate to say that there is a dramatic delay in the video between what I'm seeing in the playback window on my computer monitor and what I'm seeing on the external NTSC monitor. The audio does not have that delay, so on the external monitor the audio and video are out of sync. It makes it difficult to show anyone what you're working on, which is what the "client" monitor is supposed to do.

Experimenting with FCP/ Real time rendering question

Hello, I am preparing to purchase a Mac Pro and spent some time at the local mac affiliate store playing with FCP and motion.
In fcp I took two clips and dropped them in the timeline, adding the 3d cube transition, and some filters to both clips.
I was looking at performance of real time rendering on teh base config of the MP I plan on purchasing.
I then added another clip above these two, intending on dropping the opacity to further push the RTR (real time rendering). This clip overlapped the transition of the two other clips in v1 and v2.
When attempting to play the timeline the viewer window now said "Not Rendered"
My question is:
Is there a limit to how many tracks can be run under the RTR? Why did I get this message?
My main reason of the move to a Mac Pro is to get away from constantly pre-rendering.
Thanks everyone in advance!

In fcp I took two clips and dropped them in the timeline, adding the 3d cube transition, and some filters to both clips.I was looking at performance of real time rendering on teh base config of the MP I plan on purchasing. I then added another clip above these two, intending on dropping the opacity to further push the RTR (real time rendering). This clip overlapped the transition of the two other clips in v1 and v2.
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Sounds like you know what you're doing and what you expect. A factor that has not been mentioned yet, besides RAM, prefs and drive speeds, is your video format.
Also, the new rev of FCP is taking advantage of tons of processing overhead, vastly increasing the amount of stuff you can do in real time. However, real time is largely a preview operation, regardless of the machine or system, unless you are using proprietary codecs, such as Media 100, that might be hardware-assisted. Output is almost always a rendering issue, multiple stacked or processed layers require the creation of new media.
The only way you're going to be able to decide if Macintosh and FCP are right for you is to demo thoroughly and that requires using your own footage.
bogiesan

Buying used G4s for use with FCP

How well does FCP take advantage of dual-processor capabilities? I'm debating getting a G4 dual 533 vs. a G4 1.0 GHz machine. Which would work faster? Or are they both too painfully slow to even be worth it?
Thanks for helping the new guy!

My G4/400 is now 5 years old (I upgraded the processor last year to 1.5 Ghz). It works extremely well with FCP 5.0.4 with my particular setup - certainly very very usable and not at all painfully slow. But I'm not editing Hollywood blockbusters.
The only limitation is that I can't install Motion, but I knew that before I bought FCStudio.
Don't know anything about comparable performance of old dual-processor G4's.
Reagrds
Robert
How well does FCP take advantage of dual-processor
capabilities? I'm debating getting a G4 dual 533 vs.
a G4 1.0 GHz machine. Which would work faster? Or are
they both too painfully slow to even be worth it?
Thanks for helping the new guy!

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