Motion Lines on Quicktime Export

When exporting my sequence to a quicktime file, I get horizontal digital lines on motion within the footage. When viewing it from Final cut it looks fine (both on computer and on the external monitor) but when I create a Quicktime File (both using the Export to Quicktime and Export using Quicktime Conversion option) this happens.
On a page wipe, for example, I see the image moving frame by frame in Final Cut, but if I look at it frame by frame on the quicktime file, I see the lines scrubbing across.
I tried exporting using all kinds of different settings.
Does anyone know what causes this and what I can do to fix it???

Use google and explore for several hours the topic of interlaced video. It's a truly complex issue and neither of you have provided enough information for us to do much more than ask you to learn more about video basics so you can post a question we can answer directly.
Know ahead of time that acquisition formats can be interlaced or progressive. Your editing format can be either. Your release format can be either. And the display or video monitor upon which you are viewing any of the above can be either interlaced or progressive. And sometimes it doesn't matter one way or the other because interlacing is actually a good thing, most of the time, because it smooths out horizontal movement relative to temporal motion.
bogiesan

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Problem Lines on Quicktime Export File

Hi,
I'm trying to output a file from Final Cut Pro to Quicktime and I have gotten some strange results.
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/attachment.php?attachmentid=2096&d=1170989259
FILE>EXPORT>QUICKTIME CONVERSION>VIDEO SETTINGS
Compression Type: Motion JPEG B
Quality: Best
SOUND SETTING (I left as default)
The attached clip is done with Compression Type H.264 and Quality Low so that I could get the file size small enough to post it here. The strange results that I get with the H.264 file are the same as Motion JPEG B. Changing the quality setting results in the same problems. I also tried Sorenson Video and MPEG-4 Video - which gave the same result as the others. I did try the DV/DVCPRO - NTSC compression which gave me a file without problems. I would however prefer that it be a Motion JPEG B type of file. The short example clip is part of a longer scene of about 1 minute that has been sped up 1600%.
I am using:
QuickTime™ Version 7.1.3,
Final Cut Pro 5.0.4
Mac OS X 10.4.8
1.67 Ghz PowerPC G4
1GB DDR SDRAM
250 GB Lacie external drive (20GB free)
Thanks for any advice!
Tim

Use google and explore for several hours the topic of interlaced video. It's a truly complex issue and neither of you have provided enough information for us to do much more than ask you to learn more about video basics so you can post a question we can answer directly.
Know ahead of time that acquisition formats can be interlaced or progressive. Your editing format can be either. Your release format can be either. And the display or video monitor upon which you are viewing any of the above can be either interlaced or progressive. And sometimes it doesn't matter one way or the other because interlacing is actually a good thing, most of the time, because it smooths out horizontal movement relative to temporal motion.
bogiesan

Poor Quality of Photo JPEG Quicktime Export PPro CS4

Adobe Premiere Pro CS4
2 Xeon Dual Core 3.2 Ghz
2 GB RAM
XP SP3
Nvidia 8600 GT
The program that I use for presentation (ProPresenter) prefers Quicktime files rendered in the Photo JPEG format. I render it from a HDV 1080i 60 time line to a 1280x720 file.
In CS3 this worked great. In CS4 when I render it out, the file looks terrible. I even bumped it to 100% quality (normally I do about 85% in CS3)
The video has bad posterization and looks like it has been rendered at a low bit rate, which I think may be what is happening. CS3 didn't let me set the bit rate, and neither does CS4, but 2 minute files took about 700 MB to 1 GB after being exported in CS3. The resulting files in CS4 are 150 MBs.
The bit rate option when Photo JPEG and many other Quicktime codecs is selected, is greyed out and cannot be set.
So what can I do? I NEED to be able to export to Photo JPEG at high quality. Why would Premiere not allow me to set a bit rate, but more over, use such a low one? At least in CS3 it chose a high bitrate for you.
Am I missing something? Are others having this problem with Quicktime exports?
Here is the output from CS3. Some banding in the bacground gradients, but that's to be expected with JPEG.
Here is the output from CS4. Banding is much worse, jaggedy posterization, obvious artifacts. All of this becomes even more apparent with motion.

I would like to follow up a little bit. After talking to my friend, the bitrate problem was addressed in the 4.1 patches and exporting to Photo JPEG at least was fixed, at least that's what he told me and from his description of the problem, I'm quite sure he knew exactly what I was talking about.
But still, after he listed his annoyances such as the much longer render times, and an interface and timeline playback that just never seems to be quite fast enough to keep up, I long for the simple interface of Premiere 6.5 with updated HD capabilities. Every step since then has made the interface more unnessarily resource intensive.
I don't think I'll be upgrading to CS4, sorry Adobe. Please stop making Premiere for super machines. I have a very good computer, and it's having trouble running Premiere CS4. It doesn't NEED to be this resource intensive. It doesn't have to bog down when it's run on anything but the best of the best computers.
In a simple A-B-C comparison, the speed of playing an HD clip with a couple effects goes down and down and down as you go from Pro 1.5 -> CS3 -> CS4. Why? What other areas are so improved that we need to have such a slowdown of the core?
Sorry, I'll stop venting now. I was just so hoping that I could recomend we upgrade to CS4 and solve some of our CS3 problems.

Quicktime export contains random grey frames

Lately, doing a straight Quicktime export (not Quicktime conversion) is resulting in movies with random grey frames in them, lasting about 12 frames or so each. This is HD footage, shot on the Panasonic DVX-100. This only seems to happen when exporting certain sequences, but I haven't been able to establish a pattern as to why it's happening on certain exports but not on others. It's all footage shot, ingested, and edited on sequences with the same exact settings.
It's only been happening since upgrading to QT 7.5, but the other computer in the office also upgraded, and it hasn't encountered this problem, and can export the same sequences I'm having problems with just fine.
Has anyone else experienced this, or offer a solution?

for the record this was not my first post, I forgot my account info. I'm normally very nice but studio x was just puffing his chest and belittling a good question
This is a Final Cut issue. If it were only a drive/scsi issue the errors would also be there in the animation codec as well. The bad frames ONLY occur when doing a quicktime export [DVCPRO HD 720](referenced, render all frames, and self contained). I'm not dismissing the fact that there very well may be a drive causing problems (G-SPEED XL12).
The bad frames do not occur any other time. I render plenty of things in the exact same codec over the network to the raid from AE and Motion and never ever have a problem.
One thing I am doing differently now is long form projects. The projects having issues are a one hour show and a two hour+ show. I don't have this problem with commercials or other small packages. It also doesn't matter if it's a random 10 sec section exported or the whole program.
This is what I'm working with:
HVX200 and other mixed footage
FCP and QT last updated in early july (no internet connection)
G-SPEED XL12
Fibre channel to one station that also acts as a file server
gigabit to one station from the file server
trunked gigabit to another station from the server (seperate NIC)
All three stations exhibit the same problem including the station connected via Fibre Channel
Other people are having the same problem as I've found by searching. The earliest report of this specific issue I've found so far was stated around Jan of this year. But there are more reports from this summer.

Sequence compression setting / Quicktime Export

Is there any advantage to changing the sequence compression setting to "None" and re-rendering before exporting a sequence using DVCAM footage captured from a DSR30 via FireWire? My normal compression setting is DV/DVCPRO.
How about leaving the sequence settings at DV/DVCPRO and changing the Quicktime export setting from "current settings" to "uncompressed 10 bit" or 8 bit?
I'm still getting artifacting when compressing to MPEG2, even with compression markers at transitions and encoding at 2-pass VBR and burning the DVD at 1x.
Any help is greatly appreciated!

I decided to check out the Compressor discussion group - full of near suicides like me bemoaning the gross infusion of MPEG2 artifacting after upgrading to Compressor 2.
Appparently, popular opinion says the VBR feature is faulty and Apple is waiting until mutiny ensues before addressing the problem.
So I have encoded at 1-pass, 7.2 bitrate, best motion estimator, segmenting OFF, using Compressor, as suggested by some kind soul in the group, and then importing into DVDSP.
I then burned the DVD and viewed it on my bigass TV.
NO ARTIFACTING! Plus compressor took SIX minutes to MPEG2 the 40-minute FCP movie. And, yes you can see in the Compressor preview window that FCP has inserted compression markers at all edit points.
So by selecting settings for what Apple terms lower quality output, I get higher quality output in a fraction of the compression time!
I am fearful Apple is hiring enemy combatant programmers, lowering the morale of editors worldwide by making their work look like poo.

FCP5 - Problems with Quicktime Export Settings

Hello -- I'm experiencing trouble when I export a Quicktime file from my FCP5 to burn to a DVD. The DVD, which I burn using iDVD, plays on my computer buut not in my DVD player -- the DVD player doesn't recognize it as a playble DVD.
I've tested everything -- Regular commercial DVDs work fine in my DVD player, so it's not the DVD player that's broken. I haven't changed anything to do with iDVD. And finally, DVDs of the two types I'm using (Maxwell and TDK brands) once both worked fine in my DVD player when I exported from FCP and burned using iDVD, so it's not the blank DVDs that seem to be at fault.
The problem seems to have occurred when a friend asked me to change the FCP Quicktime export settings to export a Quicktime file for streaming on the web and also for exporting a motion mpeg file (I'm not even sure what you do with one of those).
Although I now choose "current settings" when I go to export, because I thought this would give me the old, preset standard settings that worked just fine in the past, I believe the FCP export settings must have gotten messed up, because nothing else has changed with my process, and yet now, the DVDs don't work in the DVD player.
I am inexperienced/beginner level with the FCP program and don't know how to get back to the correct settings, and hope someone could be kind enough to help me. Especially since the help manual hasn't shed much light on this.
Many thanks in advance for any and all assistance.
G5 imac Mac OS X (10.4.8) FCP5/iDVD 5.0.1

Make sure your sequence settings are progressive to begin with.
Here is more background:
http://www.larryjordan.biz/articles/ljprepping_still_imagesFCP.html
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1564835
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/973481

Flash and quicktime export not possible at all!

hi iwork dev team!
as there was no result on my prev post, here again:
i use keynote'08 4.02 on imac with 2gb and osx 10.5.2.
i created a presentation with 15 slides and over all 16,5 minutes.
each slide has a mp3 sound file attached (the speakers voice recorded externally).
now i am facing following problems on *export to flash* (export is around 18mb):
1) synchronization of voice and effects is different than inside keynote - i fixed this by changing times and export/test cycles, as long until i run sync in swf (please make it sync - this is terrible).
2) starting with slide 13 some objects do not appear - in further slides many objects do not appear. the sound and time is ok, but not much to see. if i split the presentation into 2 parts, the export works fine, all objects appear in all slides, but i found no way to combine those 2 swf files....
3) in one slide i found out that the order of appearing/disappearing objects confuses the swf export, so that many objects afterwards are not at all shown.... i played around long and splitted the slide in 2 slides and with some workarounds i got it show all objects.
4) it would be great if at least some transitions and most effects would be supported and times of effects would be the same inside keynote and in exported swf.
*exporting to quicktime*:
1) first i had one large mp3 for the whole presentation and added it as soundtrack and synced it inside keynote. exporting this to quicktime made it run async. but at least export was possible for the full presentation.
2) i splitted the mp3 for each slide and added each mp3 to each corresponding slide. this way i made it possible to export to swf (see above). but quicktime export now has no sound and slide shows up nearly endless.... qt export is impossible.
what can i do?
at least it would help me if i can export ONE swf file.
best would be if it has same sync inside keynote and in swf - but i can live for now with swf export optimized sync that doesnt work inside keynote. but it should be fixed at least in the future....

I'm currently having a similar problem, where the Flash exported by Keynote seems to randomly miss some objects on the page that appear after a click or a delay. In fact, in one case, I had embedded a EPS file in the slide, and some parts of the embedded file were exported to Flash but not others. I'm using Keynote 3.0.2, so I'm sorry to hear that Keynote '08 still has this bug which makes Flash export pretty awful to deal with.

The document "BOULET PEANUT - OFF LINE 3-QuickTime H.264.mov" could not be opened. An unknown error occurred (-101)

I turned on my mac this morning after using Qt all day yesterday with no problems
I get this message
The document “BOULET PEANUT - OFF LINE 3-QuickTime H.264.mov” could not be opened. An unknown error occurred (-101)
Also QT will not play the audio of the files
I'm on a mac pro, 10.7.4
Everything updated
Any know whats up and can help solve this, it seems to be a software related problem to QT 7 or X

Exactly the same by my iMac.
"The document ... could not be opened. An error occurred (-101)"
I can play the same video with VLC player but not with QuickTime.
QuickTime and iTune can not play anything at all.
VLC Player however can play all medias without any problem.
All my apps are uptodate.
What could be the problem?

Quicktime Export - Keynote, Streaming, and Movie Controller Settings

A few questions regarding qt export from keynote -
Is there a way to save quicktime export settings in keynote? Right now I'm exporting multiple files to custom sizes, and have to manually enter the size every time.
I'm exporting for streaming as well, and have to select it in the qt settings window every time.
also, is there a way to choose to show the movie controller when exporting a movie? Now I have to open the movie after export in qt pro and choose window>movie properties>presenation>movie controller type>movie controller (it defaults to none when exporting from keynote).
also, oddly enough, is seems that saving the movie after choosing to show the movie controller removes the streaming setting (movies wait to load completely before playing).
Thanks!

No answer to the main question...but the final question--
When you edit a QuickTime movie, even if the edit is merely to change the settings on the controller, it breaks fast-start. You should be able to fix it by doing a "Save As..." instead of saving the movie in place. But that doesn't seem to work in all versions of QuickTime; I have noticed that certain versions of QT-7 seem to break fast-start altogether.
There is an app out there called "Lillipot" that will fix this for you. Drag your movie to Lillipot, it does whatever magical conversion is necessary to make fast-start work again.

Quicktime Export causing Out of Sync Audio?

I'm trying to export a self contained Quicktime movie from my timeline, and every time I try, the audio ends up being out of sync. What am I doing wrong?
The audio is set to just the defaults, 16 bit, 48khz.
Sequence settings: HDV1080p30
When I bring the final exported movie back into FCP, it plays out of sync.
Exporting through the Share feature to bluRay resulted in perfect sync audio, so I'm at a loss as to why this isn't working.
Please help!

Allright, since nobody out there seems to have the answer - I'm going to share what I discovered so that the next person will actually get an answer without having to spend hours and hours finding it in other forums. Here goes:
Problem: Audio plays in sync on the timeline, an export from the timeline through Share to bluRay results in correctly synced audio; but a Quicktime Export with current settings results in a final movie where audio is out of sync with the video.
Solutions: I found two solutions to this problem:
1- When exporting to Quicktime Movie, check "recompress all frames". This solution had mixed reviews, with lots of people saying you should never do this, as it will reduce the quality of your final output; while others said the reduction in quality was not noticeable to the naked eye. I guess you can try it and be the judge.
2- In your sequence settings, change the compression setting to Apple Pro Res. This is the setting I decided to go with, as I'm currently awaiting the 10 hour render.
I did do a quick and dirty test on the ProRes option, where it appeared to work. Since the audio is correctly synced in the beginning of the video and then slowly falls out of sync (obviously the 30p to 29.97 problem), I had to run a test using my entire sequence. If you run a test on a 2 minute sequence, it will appear to be correct, because it is a slow falling out of sync issue - the problems occur later in your project (just fyi). Here is what I did (in case you want to try it on your project):
I created a new sequence and then changed the compression setting from HDV1080-30p to Apple Pro Res 422. I dragged my sequences into this sequence (so they were nested). I unlinked the audio and then selected about a 20 second area from about 3/4 of the way through the project. I sliced this section and then removed all the video before and after (so it would speed up render time and only render black, but I would still be able to see if the audio synced up later - I hope that makes sense - this made my export time only 12 minutes). After it exported, I reimported the movie, found the little 20 second area, and it was correctly synced. So, now I am exporting the whole thing. I sincerely hope this works. I don't have lots of 10 hour blocks just lyin' around!
Since my audio issue was most likely due to the fact that I captured and edited in 1080 30p, I believe it must be a bug in FCP that exports the Quicktime movie in 29.97 regardless of whatever your sequence settings are (believe me, I tried to change it to 1080-30p and it didn't work). That is why I think the Apple Pro Res option works, but it involves a total re-render of your project. This is also why I believe it plays fine in the timeline, because my timeline was set to 30p. Again, I also believe that is why my export to BluRay through Share resulted in correctly synced audio - the bluRay export I believe uses the Pro Res codec (which, by the way, took 19 hours).
Wish Apple would fix this bug.
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Quicktime Export Does Not Play Music

I am having problems with the Quicktime export function of iPhoto not exporting the background music with the pictures. The old quick time files with the music in them seem to be playing fine in quicktime, so it isn't a quicktime issue. The music plays fine with the slide show, so I wonder why this problem.
Help is appreciated. I am using 5.0.4 version of iPhoto.

If anyone reads these posts and is experiencing these problems I think I have a solution! I spoke to Apple today and they are aware of the problema and are working on a solution. In the mean time they have a work-around and it works!! The problem centers on importing music that is not in MP3 format in some instances. So the easy explanation, or fix, is to reformat any troublesome music selections as MP3. The trick is how to do this if you are using iTunes. This is how I went about it:
First I had to set iTunes to become MP3 friendly. I learned to do this from a post in the iTunes discussions (thanks to Peter Miller!)
1. open iTunes.
2. select iTunes preferences.
3. go to "Advanced".
4. select "Importing".
5. In the drop-down menu for "Import Using" select "MP3 Encoder"
6. Select files in iTunes Library which are not MP3
7. In the "Advanced" menu select "Convert selection to MP3"
Steps #6 and #7 were not adequate to convert my clips to MP3, however, so I had to take a couple of additional steps.
1. Create a folder on the desktop - I labeled mine "Slideshow Music"
2. Drage your music from iTunes to your new folder. You'll have to trash the original copies eventually, but I'd wait until you're sure the conversion to MP3 works to do so.
3. Use a utility to convert the files to MP3. I used one called iLoveMP3 that I found on the internet. It worked perfectly. I also found a commercial program called Sound Grinder but didn't try it.
4. Once you convert your music to MP3, discard the copies in your "Slideshow Music" folder that are not MP3.
5. Discard the copies of your music in iTunes before re-importing your MP3 copies of the same music.
6. FINALLY! Drag your new MP3 copies of your music in to iTunes. They are now copied as MP3 and will work in your slideshow!
I know it is a lot of work, but if you keep the iTunes settings as they are now, and all NEW music is imported as MP3, I think future music usage in slideshows should be a little easier.

Quicktime Export taking a long time

I rendered a project. Took 4 hours. Quicktime Export took the same after the render. Did NOT export self-contained. Usually a Quicktime Export is a matter of minutes, not hours.

I've had a similar problem before. (after render) I ask it to export as a reference movie, but it still takes forever. However, when I check the supposed reference file, it turns out that it's self contained (you can tell by the size). So, check the file that was exported...if it's huge then that's a good indicator that FCP didn't recognize the referenced video command. Maybe it's time to trash preferences or some other kind of troubleshooting? Then again, this problem has been random for me, happening on some projects but not others. --David
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Quicktime Export settings for projected slide presentation

I'm looking to find the best quicktime export settings to use in order to have a Keynote 3 presentation as a stand alone movie. I will be projecting the movie from a PC onto a large screen at 1024 x 768 resolution. The project is for a photography club public presentation, and needs to be top quality.
Thanks for your input
iMac 2.0GHz Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Barbara,
The 640X480 vs 720X480 dilemma is an interesting subject! DV Video and Video DVDs use 720X480 resolution. TVs do not have square pixels, but computer monitors do have square pixels - so some adjustment is needed, and 640X480 is the square pixel down-converted equivalent for computers to the 720X480 in non square pixels used by TVs......make sense?
iDVD supports high definition video
Well what this means is iDVD can read HD video files, and convert them to standard definition Video DVDs. It does NOT mean that iDVD can produce HD DVDs. HD DVDs and HD DVD players are not on the market yet.
Today's Video DVDs are not high resolution, they are 720X480. The only way to get higher resolution is to avoid the Video DVD standard, and just make a data DVD. This will not be playable on commercial DVD players, only on computers with the right software and codecs. If I needed to make professional presentations on large screen high resolution monitors, I would not use Video DVDs. Bring a new powerbook and use H.264
If you want to go the DVD route anyway, then 720 X 480 is the best you can get. I'd tell FotoMagico to export in HD (720p). This is a bit of overkill, as iDVD will encode at a lower resolution, but I've gotten good results that way.
You may have to use the anamorphicizer to get iDVD to realize the movie is Widescreen.
http://homepage.mac.com/sith33/FileSharing34.html
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Quicktime Export - Double Speed

I have had more problems with Quicktime Export ever since upgrading to Snow Leopard. My usual way of doing things is to edit my movie, then export to +Quicktime Movie+ using the same format (ie not +Quicktime Conversion+...). However, every time I export that way, my movie is running at 200%, while the audio is running at regular speed. Anyone else having this issue? Anyone know how to fix it?
2 ghz iMac Intel
FinalCut 6.0.6

No one helped. Oh well.

Quicktime export question

hey guys
i know that quicktime export is the best for dvd because it is the same source coming out as it was going in.
my one video i exported was roughly 17 minutes long...i exported it and it came to about 300mb
i then exported a video that was only 7 minutes long and it came to 1.5gb!
both videos has the same amount of stuff going on it it...possibly the 17 minute one had even more! so why would the shorter lengthed video be such a huge file size?
i am planning on making a dvd with about 25 short lengthed films on it. most blank dvds hold 4.7 gbs so that one video being 1.5gb is kinda hurtin
why would it export that much larger? is there anything i can do to help that?
thankyou

hey
i rendered everything and exported again, althought unfortunately it still came out to be 1.5 gb!
i can't figure out what it would be...i tried something after...i imported the 1.5gb video into a new project and exported that...it came out to 80 mb which was good, but then when i deleted the other file, that 80mb video file all of a sudden became currupt! i dont know how it did because it was a totally separate exported file? :/
well i just ran out of space on my mac book pro so i was trying to find stuff to delete to save some space to continue.
i saw that itunes copies all of the songs from lime wire, so i deleted all of the lime wire copies, which was about 3 or 4 gigs.
unfortunatly when i opened my projects back up a ton of the music was offline! i suppose when i imported alot of music i chose the limewire copy instead which is unfortunate
i was freaking out when i saw this! all of these files were offline...is there any way to reconnect them with the exact file copy, thats in itunes?
even though alot of these files were offline, i still heard them on the timeline which was releaving...
im still trying to export this 7 minute long video to hopefully be less than 300mb. would there be any more of a problem now that some of the audio is offline?
all i need is a quicktime dvd quality export of it, if i get that, i suppose it doesnt even matter if i keep the project or rough stuff
please help!
thankyou

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