Motion slowdown in FCP

I have a Mac Pro with 10 gb memory Quad-Core Intel Xeon, NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT. I am an editor for weddings and family projects, who is starting to livin up my projects with motion. I don't have a speed problem using motion, but when I drag a motion file into FCP, the program is exremely slow and gives me the spinball. I never get this problem using FCP with tons of filters and layers. I recently dragged one title into fcp and could barely edit a 10 minute project. Also it took 30 minutes to render! Is there something I need to upgrade to make motion run more smooth? i am worried about adding multiple motion files, which I was intending to do.
Thanks

hi
I have exactly the same problem. It only started when I upgraded to FCS3 and wasnt helped by Snow Leopard. I havent got to the botom of it yet, but as you state FCP has a huge problem 'seeing' motion projects on the timeline. It takes an age for the program to respond, almost as if the motion project is getting loaded into memory. I can also report that the finder has the same problem. If you import a motion project via the import dialog box and it is set to hierarchy list mode it will take forever if you click on a motion file as it prepares the quicklook preview. This is of no help to you except to know that you are not alone.
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Intel 2.66GHz Mac OS X (10.4.9)

OK???
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