Motu 828 mk3 routing issues

I just bought the 828mk3 and I am having some problems integrating it with Logic 7. Perhaps a motu forum would be better for this but Ive been going insane trying to deal with this. The problem is:
I have 2 sets of speaker coming from the interface. Monitors from main out and extra speakers from analogue output 1-2.
Im not gettin audio playback through main out 1-2 from logic, but I do from analogue out 1-2. when i play through itunes I get sound from main out 1-2 but not analogue output 1-2. If i change the routing through cuemix, the 828 software, I can play the mai out through analogue channel 1-2, but then i cant use the volume controls on the interface itself and its quite an unsatisfactory compromise. If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you

hi solace.. i also just bought a Motu mk3 and have had difficulty creating a separate headphone mix independent of the pot on the front of the MOTU which fades the main studio monitors up and down
see this thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1805920&tstart=0
I will experiment with your suggestion to solve my headphones issue but if you or anyone else has a suggestion about how to create a completely independent headphone mix to come out the Headphone Socket on the front of the MOTU I would be much obliged
best
m s

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