MOTU 828mkII and Logic Problems

Mac G5 OSX 10.4.6 Logic Pro 7.1.1 MOTU 828mkII I've installed the new driver for the firewire software for the MOTU, I've reset factory settings, i've double checked and triple checked the internal clock settings. I am still getting distortion and high pitched whistles and error message. This happend once before but after installing the new driver things worked fine. Now i'm not getting anywhere. Thanks for any help !!!!

Just a note, I've had this problem as well with the MoTu 828ii. There is an issue with this system not functioning properly with Pro Logic 7.1. Out of the blue, I start getting a message "Midi and Audio out of synch" messages, and there is no sound. I tried downloading the latest driver, no go.
I called the MoTu people and they aren't very helpful with their system's conflict with Pro Logic. I wouldn't recommend anyone buying the Motu at this point. I'm thinking of Apogee if I can't get this thing running soon.

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Serious issues with motu interface and logic, advice?

i use a motu 828 mk2, updated to logic pro 7 from 6, everything worked fine for awhile. Sometimes I can spend hours playing and recording software instruments before the program malfunctions. All of a sudden the audio being played becomes out of tune and crackly, fading in and out. Then the screen of the motu begins flipping out, the faders become dim and move kinda erratic and sometimes theres letters that appear NIAG. If I save and close logic, turn off the interface then back on again the problem is gone. (actually sometimes it will work fine again and others it won't. Right now for example I will use logic for a minute and then it comes back again. I keep up on all the mac and logic updates. does my computer cause the problem to the interface or vice versa. Is the interface broke? Do I have the wrong driver?( I downloaded it from motu so I don't believe thats the case). does it have to do with the way all my folders are organized on the hard drive? Has anyone ever heard of anything like this? No? who else could I ask. motu's forum wasn't much help. I almost want to call the geek squad or something like that but I thought all you could give me some ideas. thank you for reading this. I really hope someone replies, even if it's to say which set up you have that works fine, maybe I'll reconsider mine.

Hey, thanks for the tip. Though, that didn't work. How frustrating, The same problem has occured. Today is the fourth day in a row that I can't use logic. In the past it would act up for a day two then work again. Tuesday ( tomorrow) I'm supposed to have a recording session, It doesn't look too hopeful that this issue will be resolved. Please , if anyone has another suggestion I would greatly appreciate it. Maybe some ideas to isolate the problem. does anyone out there use an mk2? I lost my install disk and downloaded the driver from motu's website, could their universal driver be the problem? I'm getting pretty burnt out with this b/s. Maybe resetting something in logic would help. Any ideas. thank you. I think any response could help.

MOTU 828mkII and 10.4.10

Hi -
My question has two parts...
1. I just had to have the logic board in my iMac replaced for the second time because of the firewire being shorted out. Apple said this is an extremely rare repair (twice in less than a year for me). The only firewire components I use are a Lacie external hard drive and a MOTU 828mkII. Can't imagine the hard drive is doing anything. Is it possible that the MOTU is somehow damaging the the firewire port / logic board?
2. I just brought my iMac back from being serviced by the Apple store (to have the logic board replaced). Without my permission they installed 10.4.10 and LP 7.2.3 (I had been fine using 10.4.9 and 7.2.2). Now nothing is working. The MOTU is not being recognized. LP is crashing when I hit play. Even my bluetooth mouse and keyboard don't seem to be working. I installed the combo update as some people suggested in other posts and still no improvement.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
20" iMac 2.0GHz Intel Core Duo, 2GB RAM Mac OS X (10.4.10) Logic Pro 7.2.3, MOTU 828mkII interface

I've used the 828mkII with a G4 and now a Mac Pro running OS 10.4.10 and LP 7.2.3, so it can be done.
I have no idea what went wrong with your Firewire port--haven't heard of that one.
First thing to check re: getting the MOTU box back up would be the Firewire driver: are you running 1.4.3 ? If not, I'd download it from MOTU and try that: it may be that older MOTU drivers don't work with 10.4.10.
Good luck!
James
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Using Motu DP and Logic Together - More use of all cores on the PPC Quad

Since there's been some talk about how DP uses four cores on the PPC quad lately I thought I might add what I've been doing to take advantage of untapped processing power. If you have DP (I am running 4.5) you can run it alongside Logic Pro and use interapplication midi (built into Logic and DP) to play Logic's instruments from midi tracks in DP. This is fairly easy to set up in the environment.
With all of my audio recorded in DP I can use all my nice AU plugs there and benefit from DP's use of 4 cores - something I can't do with just the "node trick" in Logic. Logic is then just playing the role of audio instrument slave.
I tend not to like or use most of Logic's processing plugs for audio, but they are fine to process Logic's instruments with so this works well.
The exceptions are Space designer and the tape delay which I still use on recorded audio. To use these with audio recorded in DP I use Jack and/or Soundflower to virtually "patch" the audio through Logic and back to DP. I have no idea what this does to latency but who the heck cares with reverb and tape delay?
Of course I have and like DP so this is worth doing in my case.

Jack is more flexible than Soundflower. The latter sets up less output channels that afford you less possibilities. But, both have worked for me.
True that, in the beginning Jack was a little funky to use but that ended when I set up an agregate device driver for core audio.
As a new feature in one of the Tiger updates (I can't remember which one) you can now set up such a so called agregate core audio device and select that as your device driver in both Logic and DP. So for example I use a MOTU 828 as one of my tried-and-true firewire in/out boxes. So I setup an agregate device in core audio with this Motu unit and Jack (called it Motu 828/Jack OS)and then I selected it in Logic and DP. Otherwise I just had to select Jack (and not the MOTU) as my only output device in Logic and then route ALL audio through it just to get it in and out of the MOTU which was a pain since I couldn't have direct acces to my Motu ins and outs in Logic anymore. Jack became the go- between for everything. That was enough to make me give up.
But using the agregate device saved the day. I now see all of my old MOTU ins and outs in Logic and DP plus Jack's virtual ins and outs which I can then use to patch between the programs. This has worked perfectly fine.
Soundflower can be used similarly but you will just have less virtual outs and ins to deal with and you lose the intermediate step that you have in Jack where you connect the virtual ins to the virtual outs at will. It's done automatically. So this can be easier of course. Or, it can allow for less flexibility. Hope this helps.

MOTU 896HD and Logic 7.1 errors due to security update

Upon downloading of the latest os X security update, my MOTU 896HD will not work with logic Pro 7.1. Logic spits out the message "error synchronizing audio and MIDI", , not playing any audio (and when switched to 44.1kHz emitts a high pitched frequency) No matter what settings are changed, nothing changes. I tried deleting the logic preferences, still not working. I tried uninstalling the MOTU and reinstalling it, no go. I even uninstalled Logic completely and reinstalled it from scratch, still no go. I tried using the internal sound card in logic and it worked without any problem (through my crappy computer speakers), I also tried the MOTU through other software, such as iTunes and it works without any problem as well, just no matter what I do, it will not work in Logic. I have done everything possible to do that I know of other than a complete system wipe and reinstall, (which I hear from some others dealing with the same issue that this doesn't fix it). I have all of the latest drivers for the MOTU, and all software is up to date with the latest versions.
Does anyone have any ideas?

I am having the same issue and have been trying to track it down for days. I have been told you can reset the 896 by powering down, unplugging everything and switching the voltage switch back and forth (dont leave it on the wrong voltage). I got this info from someone on Unicornation not MOTU. I dont know if its accurate. It didnt work for me but others seemed to have success.
Can you confirm there is firmware if you receive it? I have sent e-mails to MOTU and should have called them toady but got busy at work.
Thanks,
Damon
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Motu Ultralight and Logic

Hmm,
any one else out there running Logic with a Motu Ultralite?
I am running this setup in surround and in stereo () and I
am wondering if there is any other thoughts out there about
the ins and outs and running surround.
The problem I am having is the live 'analog' out system
some times I cant tell if the sound is running through logic
or if it is just through the mixer (in a live mixing setup)
for example say I take a stereo in to my Ultralite...
hit the input monitor on in Logic...
The audio seems to pass through with nothing going though
Logic at all - no levels and the sound still passes through
If I record enable (or input enable) the signal is louder
but it seems like its mixed with the sound of the previous
(unlogified) sound.
does this make sense... It is important for me to figure out
because I want to use live to pass audio through in a live pa
dj type setting.
thnks

What I mean is, they should all be rated to be the same such as +4dB -10dB. But in reality things like this sometimes require re-calibrating sometimes, or can from the start be a TINY bit out of alignment. Like 0.1dB between outputs.
Digidesign despite their faults have always had a calibration mode for their hardware. When interfacing with other outboard especially other recorders, like a tape machine for example, it's important that all the outputs are aligned. Of course a good engineer, or someone with keen ears, can work around it, but it's best if there isn't a problem there in the first place.
In this case, I can't see this sort of difference in response being a problem, or even noticeable. I just wanted to make sure and say that there CAN be the slightest difference between outputs regardless of their rated levels.

OSX MOUNTAIN LION AND LOGIC PROBLEMS

I have a this problem... if my logic is running and i open logic EQ i cant do nothing, even stop the logic just nothing to do , only force quit.... ANY HELP on this.....????

Not a new problem.
https://discussions.apple.com/message/19254621#19254621
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4142085

MOTU 828 and Logic Express 7

I have a MOTU 828 purchased new in early 2002. Software is Audio Desk. Two questions:
1. Is there any reason to get Logic Express 7?
2. Is the MOTU 828 hardware compatible with Logic Express 7 as an interface through which to plug in instruments/mics?

The 828mk2 is a great soundcard. As for audiodesk... Here's the low down. Both Logic Express and Audio Desk are cut down applications from their 'pro' level apps which are Logic Pro and Digital Performer. I use DP for film editing, and I like it, but it is very different from Logic. I have tried using Audiodesk, and I found some of its limitations annoying after using DP. For example, it doesn't have its consolidated window which for me, and I think many others will agree, is DPs USP. Logic express is much less crippled in this way - the interface is exactly the same as Pro, and many things that Pro can do, Express can do too. There are a few very annoying omissions which is why I eventually upgraded, but Express is a great app. You might also find Audiodesks interface a little difficult at first - it's more geared towards the ProTools look of things. Then again, some people say they find Logic completely illogical. Ultimately it's entirely personal opinion, but I would go for Logic, if only for the synths and plugins. Hope this helps, and nice one for getting an awesome soundcard! Best, Fred

Motu interface and garageband problem

I've recorded in garageband before using my motu mk3 interface, but I started it up today and it wouldnt work. I have the motu connected through the usb port. I'm getting a signal on the interface, and the interface is appearing in the garageband audio preferences, but when I click on it, there is no sound when I play. The volume meter for the track doesn't move. I made sure the monitor was on, but there was no sound. I turned off/on my interface and no sound, and then I restarted my iMac, but still no sound. I'm not exactly tech savvy, or I would probably have this figured out. Any help?

Well, I've figured it out. All I needed to do was unplug the power cord from the motu, plug it back in and good as new.

I am having trouble with Logic 7 and my Motu 828mkII

I am running Logic Pro 7 with a MOTU 828mkII. Logic is not seeing the audio signal from any of the rear analog inputs on my 828. The 828 is receiving the signal and I have fiddled with cuemix to make sure everything is as it should be. Motu support said that it was a logic issue, in spite of that, I sent the unit back to them to fix it and it returned with the same issue, that it is working but logic is not. I am doing something wrong. . . please tell me what it is. thanks!

What do you have selected in the drivers menu in audio hardware prefs?

Apogee ensemble and logic studio

I got a new apple desktop pro quad 2.66 and Logic Studio.
I have been using a Motu 828mk11 and logic 7 pro.
I was considering using the Apogee Ensemble and was wondering if anyone using Studio has any luck with Ensemble and if they think the switch would be worth the investment.
I also Use an API A2D preamp with the digital outs.....any news on how that might work with Ensemble?
anyway, just a note, if anyone cares, the UAD Nevana X2 works really tightly with Logic Studio and its WORTH the purchase price. amazing.

Respiro wrote:
saved through it as wavs?
If you use outboard gear for mix and processing i.e you route out your Software Instruments thru some of the Apogee outputs (analog/optical or digital), process them using some external analog or DSP processors and route back the processed sound to the Apogee Inputs ( i.e Logic Mix track ), then the mix may be different, rather than the Logic native Bounce.
If you use Logic bounce, then Apogee is just a monitoring device as was mentioned before. I agree if you have several devices and play same (previously) bounced Logic audio file thru the different devices they may sound different - this the test the audio engineers make in the laboratories.
Personally I own several devices and I prefer to use one for final mix monitoring (which is most "true" not "sweet or pumped"), some for recording, other for internal DSP processing, depends on the situation...
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Fixed a problem with OSX-Logic and a MOTU 828MkII

I was having problems with my 828MkII using it with a new G5 and OS10.3.9. There were massive drop-outs.
It was a new computer and everything was installed correctly and cleanly - there was no other hardware installed other than the MOTU, and no other software other than Logic 7 - everything was done properly and tested over and over, but the problem persisted.
I still had my old G4 with an older OS9 version of Logic, and when I went back to try the MOTU with this set up, it worked flawlessly. This fact made me suspect that the core audio driver was the problem, so I tried all the tricks I've seen in forums - reset the MOTU - uninstalled and re-installed. Upgraded my firmware. Even tried OS10.4 with old drivers new drivers, and still nothing worked.
Then out of desperation I tried a new firewire cable and everything worked fine.
I went back and tried the set up on my OS9 machine a few times and the MOTU worked flawlessly under the Asio2 drivers. What I learned is that OSX and core audio must use firewire differently because the cable did not work with that set up.
I couldn't believe it. It's like finding out that a guitar cable only works with a Les Paul or something wierd like that.
I'm sure someone out there must know the technical difference and why this cable works fine under OS9 (Asio2) but not OSX (core audio).
I'm posting this because if I had read such a post - I would have tried a new cable as the first thing - but I had myself convinced that it could not be the cable. I still don't believe it. ! Luckily it was the cheapest fix.
Scott.

Same thing happened here when I check all items to install at once.
After the installation failure , L7,L8,Waveburner .. everything unexpectedly quit then I decided to replace the entire OS to cloned back up.
I tried the installation again and xxxx happened again. This time, I installed only applications (overwritten) again and it fixed the problem.
Then I installed only JamPack on FW and went smoothly.
I called Apple Tech and now I am waiting for the new installer DVDs of Audio contents only by regular mail.
Hey, do we have similar serial number?? Apple script got damaged or something? I have no idea.

Hello i opened both logics 9 and x at the same time after that lost audio on both softwares everything looks normas got a motu audio interface 828MKII and i just can hear audio in the headphones of the audio interface can anybody help me? i am in the midd

Hello i opened logic 9 and logic x at the same time after that i lost audio in both programs i can only hear audio in the main output of my interface motu 828MKII
can somebody help me please? am in the middle of o project thank's

Did you reset Logic's audio preferences?
Did you do a hardware reset of the MOTU unit?
Try deleting preferences in Logic X
See my post in this message.
https://discussions.apple.com/message/24614057#24614057

MacBook, Logic Pro 8 & MOTU 828mkII (FW400): int or ext 7200rpm drive?

Hi,
I think I'm finally ready to solidify my setup.
My question is:
Since the MacBook only has one FW400 jack, is it better to run and Logic's Content on an internal 2.5 7200 drive OR on the external firewire drive, which is daisychained through the MOTU 828mkII. Also, since the internal is 7200, would it be a good idea to record to it also?
The reason that I'm asking this is because I'm scared about latency between the ext drive and the interface.
Does anyone have a similar setup or knowledge on this type of situation? I'm wondering is updating my internal drive to a seagate 7200 160GB will be worth it.
Thanks in Adavance. Geoff

You're absolutely right. I have the same Saffire Pro and the same problems on all my Intel Macs.
Daisy chaining worked flawless on my older Powerbooks with the Same interface. Even copying a stupid file from a hard-drive while playing a stupid MP3 would let the Saffire go ape ;-(
I tried opening a support ticket but Focusrite said it was a normal issue because of the contention on the Firewire bus. I guess they apply double standards when it comes to Intel Macs, since there were no problems on PowerPC macs. There's something different about the Firewire chip on the Intel Macs, that's for sure.
I bought a RME Fireface 400 and this interface does not have the same problems.
See this article if you want to know more about Firewire audio chips:
http://www.rme-audio.de/ensupport_techinfo.php?page=content/support/en_support_techinfofirewire

LOGIC PRO 8 with motu 828mkII audio interface

I have bought a MOTU 828mkII Firewire and I am using it with a Mac Pro Intel
dual core v. 10.4.10 running Logic Pro 8.
My mixer is a Yamaha DM-1000. I have a problem with audio.
I have the mac going into the 828 via a firewire cable, then out of the 828 to
the mixer using 8 channel adat lightpipe. All devices have the same 48k sampling
rate but I can not hear a logic virtual instrument, like a piano, using the adat
lightpipe interface. If I use the analog "main outs" on the 828 I have audio,
but nothing comes thru the adat output. If I use another application besides Logic with the same setup, the adat connection works fine. This leads me to think the problem has to be in Logic and how it interfaces with the Motu 828mkII. I have read all manuals and can't figure
out what's wrong. Any suggestions?
Thank you,
Pierre.

Generally, outputs on audio interfaces are discreetly named. So, if your master output is set to Output 1&2, that might refer to your analog outputs. If you want to send the a different set outputs, say, a stereo pair via ADAT, you might need to send to outputs 5&6, instead of 1&2.

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