Mountain Lion and 4GB iMac Early 2008?
I have heard a number of reports of slow-downs upon ML install.
Anyone have thoughts on whether 4GB is too little to install ML (and keep Lion)?
Brett
I'm running ML on a Early 2008 iMac with only 2GB of ram. ML was a requirement for the version of Norton I'm running, and since we have installed it my computer has had significant slow down. In particular it has a hard time coming out of sleep and switching between applications after sleep.
I've heard that putting in an addition 4GB card will help significantly, so I guess that is what I am doing next.
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Thanks for your help!You cannot officially do this Apple's way as they do not support your computer for Airplay.
There is a software solution called Airparrot that you may want to demo:
http://airparrot.com
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Just updated my iPad 2 to OS7 and now I can't connect it to iTunes 10 on my MacBook OS 10.5.8
My MacBook is too old and can't be updated to Mountain Lion as it is early 2008 white MacBook.
It all worked perfectly prior to updating the iPad 2 to OS7.
There were no cautions or warnings
Are there any work arounds?
Can I uninstall OS7 and go back to OS6?
Rediculous thing is I can connect to iTunes on an old PC of the same agemozzrich wrote:
Thanks for your comments but this doesn't help my situation at all.
Again Apple fails to provide backward support for its own products.
I could go to the trouble of hacking the MacBook and running Mountain Lion and iTunes 11 that way
I think I will just move across to a PC as a result of this Apple strategy and I think I will just give up on Apples short lived product strategy.
A laptop that lasts five years indicates a long lived product strategy. Where they go wrong is to prevent backwards strategy when someone genuinely cannot live with ios7 like you. even the "unsupported" downgrade has now been blocked.
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I upgraded my iMac to Mountain Lion and it has been painfully slow ever since. Any ideas on what might be happening and how to fix it?
First, back up all data immediately, as your boot drive might be failing.
There are a few other possible causes of generalized slow performance that you can rule out easily.
If you have many image or video files on the Desktop with preview icons, move them to another folder.
If applicable, uncheck all boxes in the iCloud preference pane.
Disconnect all non-essential wired peripherals and remove aftermarket expansion cards, if any.
Otherwise, take the steps below when you notice the slowdown.
Step 1
Launch the Activity Monitor application in any of the following ways:
☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)
☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.
☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Activity Monitor in the icon grid.
Select the CPU tab of the Activity Monitor window.
Select All Processes from the menu in the toolbar, if not already selected.
Click the heading of the % CPU column in the process table to sort the entries by CPU usage. You may have to click it twice to get the highest value at the top. What is it, and what is the process? Also post the values for % User, % System, and % Idle at the bottom of the window.
Select the System Memory tab. What values are shown in the bottom part of the window for Page outs and Swap used?
Next, select the Disk Activity tab. Post the approximate values shown for Reads in/sec and Writes out/sec (not Reads in and Writes out.)
Step 2
If you have more than one user account, you must be logged in as an administrator to carry out this step.
Launch the Console application in the same way you launched Activity Monitor. Make sure the title of the Console window is All Messages. If it isn't, select All Messages from the SYSTEM LOG QUERIES menu on the left. If you don't see that menu, select
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I'm having a problem on my iMac early 2008 (2.4GHz Core 2 Duo 4gb SDRAM) after upgrading to Mac OS X Lion.
The animation such as mission control and full screen and especially, launch pad performs really slow.
Sometimes, mission control doesn't even show the animation.
This is terrible and I want Apple to fix these problems or otherwise this is just making my mac useless.
Does anyone experience having similar problem?thanks for the reply!
I've checked the activity monitor but nothing was taking up the space expect for Flash Player (Safari Internet plug-in, which takes up 29% of CPU)
here's my screenshot. can you see any problems?
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I have a white macbook purchased early 2008. I'm updated to ver. 10.6.8 can I upgrade to the new mountain lion and will it operate?
It doesn't appear to be Mountain Lion compatible. See below.
Your Mac must be one of the following models:
iMac (Mid 2007 or newer)
MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer)
MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer)
MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer)
Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer)
Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer)
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I have a 15" MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (Early 2008) running OSX Lion 10.7.5.
I want to erase the Hard Drive, install Mountain Lion, and manually restore select applications and files.
Is there a known procedure to do this? Any tips or feedback?1. Make a backup, open App Store and purchase Mountain Lion. When its download finishes, close the installer and open Lion Diskmaker to create a bootable USB drive with Mountain Lion.
2. Press Option key while your Mac is starting, select the external drive and open Disk Utility.
3. Select Macintosh HD in the sidebar and erase the drive.
4. Close the window and install Mountain Lion -
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I think I finished installing Mountain Lion, and am at the "log in" page with the Mountain Lion icon, but I cannot do any of the functions on screen. That is, I cannot log in, sleep, restart, or shut down. I am running it on an Early 2009 Macbook Pro, which is said to have the capabilities of running Mountain Lion.
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Problem description:
My iMac (early 2008) with OS 10.10.2 runs slow. I have run EtreCheck several times, and I am unable to move beyond Problem System Launch Agents (11 processes killed due to memory pressure) and Launch Daemons (12 processes killed).
EtreCheck version: 2.1.8 (121)
Report generated April 14, 2015 at 9:50:48 AM EDT
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Hardware Information: ℹ️
iMac (24-inch, Early 2008) (Verified)
iMac - model: iMac8,1
1 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2-core
4 GB RAM Upgradeable
BANK 0/DIMM0
2 GB DDR2 SDRAM 800 MHz ok
BANK 1/DIMM1
2 GB DDR2 SDRAM 800 MHz ok
Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported
Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n
Video Information: ℹ️
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS - VRAM: 512 MB
iMac 1920 x 1200
System Software: ℹ️
OS X 10.10.2 (14C1510) - Time since boot: 4 days 20:29:22
Disk Information: ℹ️
Hitachi HDS721010KLA330 disk0 : (1 TB)
EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB
Mac iBook HD (disk0s2) / : 999.35 GB (521.60 GB free)
Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB
USB Information: ℹ️
Apple Inc. Built-in iSight
Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub
Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard
Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub
Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
Configuration files: ℹ️
/etc/sysctl.conf - Exists
Gatekeeper: ℹ️
Mac App Store and identified developers
Problem System Launch Agents: ℹ️
[killed] com.apple.CallHistoryPluginHelper.plist
[killed] com.apple.CallHistorySyncHelper.plist
[killed] com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication.plist
[killed] com.apple.icloud.fmfd.plist
[killed] com.apple.Maps.pushdaemon.plist
[killed] com.apple.printtool.agent.plist
[killed] com.apple.SafariNotificationAgent.plist
[killed] com.apple.sbd.plist
[killed] com.apple.scopedbookmarkagent.xpc.plist
[killed] com.apple.telephonyutilities.callservicesd.plist
[killed] com.apple.warmd_agent.plist
11 processes killed due to memory pressure
Problem System Launch Daemons: ℹ️
[killed] com.apple.AssetCacheLocatorService.plist
[killed] com.apple.ctkd.plist
[killed] com.apple.emond.aslmanager.plist
[killed] com.apple.icloud.findmydeviced.plist
[killed] com.apple.ifdreader.plist
[killed] com.apple.nehelper.plist
[killed] com.apple.nesessionmanager.plist
[killed] com.apple.periodic-daily.plist
[killed] com.apple.periodic-weekly.plist
[killed] com.apple.softwareupdate_download_service.plist
[killed] com.apple.wdhelper.plist
[killed] org.cups.cupsd.plist
12 processes killed due to memory pressure
Launch Agents: ℹ️
[not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist [Click for support]
[running] com.adobe.AdobeCreativeCloud.plist [Click for support]
Launch Daemons: ℹ️
[loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist [Click for support]
[running] com.arubanetworks.via.NetworkMonitorLaunchd.plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist [Click for support]
User Launch Agents: ℹ️
[loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist [Click for support]
[running] com.spotify.webhelper.plist [Click for support]
User Login Items: ℹ️
ChronoSyncBackgrounder Application (/Library/Application Support/ChronoSync/ChronoSyncBackgrounder.app)
Dropbox Application (/Applications/Dropbox.app)
Canon IJ Network Scanner Selector2 Application Hidden (/Library/Printers/Canon/IJScanner/Utilities/Canon IJ Network Scanner Selector2.app)
Google Drive Application (/Applications/Google Drive.app)
Internet Plug-ins: ℹ️
Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 6.1 [Click for support]
Default Browser: Version: 600 - SDK 10.10
AdobeExManDetect: Version: AdobeExManDetect 1.1.0.0 - SDK 10.7 [Click for support]
Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: Version: 3.1.0.24 - SDK 10.8 [Click for support]
OVSHelper: Version: 1.1 [Click for support]
AdobeAAMDetect: Version: AdobeAAMDetect 2.0.0.0 - SDK 10.7 [Click for support]
AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: Version: 11.0.10 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
DivX Web Player: Version: 3.2.4.1250 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 17.0.0.134 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
Flash Player: Version: 17.0.0.134 - SDK 10.6 Outdated! Update
iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0
QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3
SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.4.8 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
AdobePDFViewer: Version: 11.0.10 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
Silverlight: Version: 5.1.20913.0 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
JavaAppletPlugin: Version: 15.0.0 - SDK 10.10 Check version
User internet Plug-ins: ℹ️
WebEx: Version: 1.0 [Click for support]
Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 7.1 [Click for support]
3rd Party Preference Panes: ℹ️
Adobe Version Cue CS2 [Click for support]
Flash Player [Click for support]
Flip4Mac WMV [Click for support]
VIA PrefPane [Click for support]
Time Machine: ℹ️
Time Machine not configured!
Top Processes by CPU: ℹ️
3% WindowServer
3% Mail
2% com.apple.iCloudHelper
1% Creative Cloud
1% Google Chrome
Top Processes by Memory: ℹ️
223 MB Google Chrome
150 MB Finder
129 MB Google Chrome Helper
112 MB Mail
69 MB Google Drive
Virtual Memory Information: ℹ️
35 MB Free RAM
1.45 GB Active RAM
1.45 GB Inactive RAM
888 MB Wired RAM
27.01 GB Page-ins
851 MB Page-outsWhen you see a beachball cursor or the slowness is especially bad, note the exact time: hour, minute, second.
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Have an iMac Early 2008 + Windows 7 and no sound from speaker out? SOLVED!!
Hello everyone,
So I'm pleased to say after over a month of trying to solve this annoying problem, it's been solved! Basically, if you have an iMac, Early 2008 edition (8,1) and Windows 7 and notice that the default microsoft driver gives very low sound and the new realtek drivers only give sound through the internal speakers... then this solution is for you!
What you'll need:
7-zip (www.7-zip.com)
Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard Disc 1 (NOT Snow Leopard!)
Here's what you'll need to do, step by step:
1) Uninstall the Realtek Driver (latest version currently 2.37) by going to Control Panel / Programs / Uninstall Programs.
2) Reboot. Upon reboot, the system will automatically reinstall the default Microsoft drivers. You can check this in Device Manager (control panel / system / device manager).
3) Insert the original Leopard Disc 1 that came with your iMac (very important, as this is the only driver I know for sure will work). Point windows explorer to the folder: D:\Boot Camp\Drivers (assuming d: is your cd-rom drive).
4) Copy the "RealTekSetup.exe" file somewhere on your desktop. Do NOT install it!
5) Decompress "RealTekSetup.exe" by right clicking the file and choosing "7-zip decompress". Again, you'll need to make sure you installed 7-zip from 7zip.com prior to doing this.
6) Go to your Device Manager again, right click the sound device (which should be something like High Definition Audio) and choose "Update Device Software".
7) Select "Browse my computer for driver software" and direct it to the folder that you extracted the drivers to.
8) You now have sound through your EXTERNAL SPEAKERS!
This works because there is a bug that RealTek/Apple does not seem to want to fix where the newer version of the RealTek control panel detects the speaker out as line in and the line in as nothing! This forces drivers normally made for Vista or Vista64 to install on Windows 7, which work 100% great.
I promise you, if you have an Early 2008 iMac, this WILL fix your problem if you follow each step! Let me know if you have any questions!
Brad LevicoffIf you don't have any Leopard disk then just google for "Vista_R199.exe".
This driver works nice on Early 2008 IMAC. I also tried an earlier version, Vista_R182.exe but there sometimes was a horrible background noise which made listening to music impossible.
Just download and follow the instructions above in the first post.
Have fun.
Uska
Message was edited by: Uska
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