Mountain Lion Hangs on Early 2008 Mac Pro

I installed Mountain Lion 12A269 on a freshly formatted disk on my Early 2008 Mac Pro. I have 10 GB of memory.
Once or twice a day, the computer hangs. I can move the mouse cursor, but can't click on anything and the keyboard is inactive. The dock doesn't raise when I move the mouse over it. CMD-OPT-ESC doesn't bring up the force-quit window and none of the menus work. All I can do is hold the power button in to shut down and then restart the computer.
There's no kernel panic -- the computer just hangs.
The console shows two System Diagnostic Reports:
Finder_2012-08-28-093935_Disk.hang
RPDLAgentHelperE_2012-08-16-14738_Disk.crash
Since it just hung a few minutes ago (08/30/12) I don't know if either of these files are relevant. Neither one is helpful.
I'm looking for suggestions for fixing this problem or additional troubleshooting. The computer just hangs -- there's no consistent action to trigger it. It's already resulted in a lot of lost work and productivity.

The console messages indicate a problem with your disk drive. It may be failing.

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    Process:    
    WindowServer [304]
    Path:       
    /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/C oreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/WindowServer
    Identifier: 
    WindowServer
    Version:    
    322
    Code Type:  
    X86-64 (Native)
    Parent Process:  launchd [1]
    User ID:    
    88
    Date/Time:  
    2012-08-29 14:30:06.993 -0500
    OS Version: 
    Mac OS X 10.8.1 (12B19)
    Report Version:  10
    Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
    Exception Type:  EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
    Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
    Application Specific Information:
    Assertion failed: (REGION_IS_REGION(region1)), function CGRegionCreateUnionWithRegion, file Regions/CGRegion.c, line 193.
    Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
    0   libsystem_kernel.dylib   
    0x00007fff8fadd212 __pthread_kill + 10
    1   libsystem_c.dylib        
    0x00007fff88636b34 pthread_kill + 90
    2   libsystem_c.dylib        
    0x00007fff8867adfa abort + 143
    3   libsystem_c.dylib        
    0x00007fff8867bdd5 __assert_rtn + 146
    4   com.apple.CoreGraphics   
    0x00007fff8d37e972 CGRegionCreateUnionWithRegion + 239
    5   com.apple.CoreGraphics   
    0x00007fff8d6e1a61 CGXDisplayUnionFlushShape + 500
    6   com.apple.CoreGraphics   
    0x00007fff8d634c90 CGXAcquireDisplayDeviceSurface + 1615
    7   com.apple.CoreGraphics   
    0x00007fff8d81c182 CGXBeginSurfaceLayerUpdate + 3026
    8   com.apple.CoreGraphics   
    0x00007fff8d5bdd92 prepare_CoreAnimation_update_state + 330
    9   com.apple.CoreGraphics   
    0x00007fff8d5b82c4 CGXUpdateDisplay + 869
    10  com.apple.CoreGraphics   
    0x00007fff8d51cfd1 run_timer_pass + 381
    11  com.apple.CoreGraphics   
    0x00007fff8d63d09e CGXRunOneServicesPass + 198
    12  com.apple.CoreGraphics   
    0x00007fff8d63d85e CGXServer + 1000
    13  WindowServer             
    0x000000010a082f41 main + 9
    14  libdyld.dylib            
    0x00007fff896d37e1 start + 1
    Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
    0   libsystem_kernel.dylib   
    0x00007fff8faddd16 kevent + 10
    1   libdispatch.dylib        
    0x00007fff90ef3e26 _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 883
    2   libdispatch.dylib        
    0x00007fff90ef3a2a _dispatch_mgr_thread + 54
    Thread 2:
    0   libsystem_kernel.dylib   
    0x00007fff8fadb686 mach_msg_trap + 10
    1   libsystem_kernel.dylib   
    0x00007fff8fadac42 mach_msg + 70
    2   com.apple.CoreFoundation 
    0x00007fff86c79f23 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 195
    3   com.apple.CoreFoundation 
    0x00007fff86c7f606 __CFRunLoopRun + 1078
    4   com.apple.CoreFoundation 
    0x00007fff86c7edd2 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 290
    5   com.apple.CoreFoundation 
    0x00007fff86c8da81 CFRunLoopRun + 97
    6   com.apple.CoreGraphics   
    0x00007fff8d68d207 eventThread + 379
    7   libsystem_c.dylib        
    0x00007fff88635782 _pthread_start + 327
    8   libsystem_c.dylib        
    0x00007fff886221c1 thread_start + 13
    Thread 3:: com.apple.CoreAnimation.render-server
    0   libsystem_kernel.dylib   
    0x00007fff8fadb686 mach_msg_trap + 10
    1   libsystem_kernel.dylib   
    0x00007fff8fadac42 mach_msg + 70
    2   com.apple.QuartzCore     
    0x00007fff8740b35b CA::Render::Server::server_thread(void*) + 403
    3   com.apple.QuartzCore     
    0x00007fff8748fe76 thread_fun + 25
    4   libsystem_c.dylib        
    0x00007fff88635782 _pthread_start + 327
    5   libsystem_c.dylib        
    0x00007fff886221c1 thread_start + 13
    Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
      rax: 0x0000000000000000  rbx: 0x0000000000000006  rcx: 0x00007fff55b74808  rdx: 0x0000000000000000
      rdi: 0x0000000000000707  rsi: 0x0000000000000006  rbp: 0x00007fff55b74830  rsp: 0x00007fff55b74808
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  • With Boot Camp, should I install the 64 bit version of Windows 7 (Home Premium edition) OR the 32 bit version when installing onto an early 2008 Mac Pro operating OSX Lion with a 1 TByte internal HDD?

    With an early 2008 Mac Pro I'm about to add a second internal drive (1 TByte SATA) and initially install OSX Lion onto the new drive.  Then to partition this new HDD via Boot camp.  But my question is whether I am best advised to purchase the 64 bit version of Windows 7 (Home Premium) or the 32 bit version of Windows 7 (Home Premium) for the Windows sector of the disk  What are the differences, and will I notice a difference in performance?

    In chart from wiki, (scroll down to "Comparison chart") check the maximum CPUs supported.
    You don't see this on MSoft's 1st searched for chart hit. This is one reason you will regret not paying for Professional+ if you get Home Premium 64 as I did for Mac Pro early 2008.
    Home Prem Task Mgr sees 4 processors vs. the 8 that are seen by Pro+.    
    Costs more than a Mac upgrade to Lion if you make that mistake. 
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions

  • Early 2008 mac pro won't boot from hdd when ssd is installed

    I have Mountain Lion 10.8.3 installed on my 1TB HDD in my early 2008 mac pro.  That is the only OS install on my mac.  I have an OWC SSD formatted but left as an empty drive that I am trying to use but when it's installed my mac hangs on the blank gray screen.
    My mac cold boots fine and runs fine when the SSD is *not* installed.  When I shut down and put the SSD into a drive bay the mac does seem to boot ok the first time, but when the computer is off for a while it will not boot.  It just hangs on the blank gray screen (no apple logo).    As soon as I pull out the SSD, the computer boots fine and runs fine again.  I am not trying to boot off the SSD, I am booting off the HDD.  The correct drive (1tb hdd) is selected in startup disk.
    OWC has been helping me and I have tested 3 SSD's.  So it does not appear to be a problem with their drive.
    The mac will boot into safe mode with the SSD installed.  It will boot if I choose the boot drive with the option key at startup.
    Mountain Lion was clean installed.
    Could it be some sort of library pref or cache issue?
    Any recommendations on what to try?

    A HT does not find a lot of errors.
    It doesn't look for bad sectors or directory or file problems.
    Clone your SSD now that you have a clean OS and has the Apple updates on it. Before you make changes.
    Install TRIM Enabler 2.2+ on it and any boot volume, to enable TRIM and so that Disk Utility's Repair Disk will trim cells. Mountain Lion Recovery won't  which is a shame, so...
    Clone and keep bootable backup clone of your system to use for maintenance.
    A really bad directory on a system drive will cause interference from booting.
    SSDs really need extra care, and even with TRIM, to be repaired from time to time and couple times a year, to do an erase and restore from a current image.
    Of course Mac OS system even iwth apps is small and doesn't need to have any data or media and fits on 120GB usually just fine and still have a good enough amount free so TRIM and Garbage Collection can work properly and not get low on free pages. But 20GB free should be the minimum free, and better to have more, at least whatever total amount is written out in a month.

  • How do I fix my early 2008 mac pro boot hard disk. Lost everything when it crashed hard, can not reinstal via cd/dvd drive... are there any fix get it boot from dvd drive?

    I have an early 2008 MAC PRO Quad Core 3.0ghz processor. 8 Gig of rams, with a 1 Gig memory  Radeon 5770 HD Graphic Card running the latest Version of Snow Leopard OS.  Last week lighting struck the house take out all of my hard drives (4) thank god the surge protector mitigated the mother board from damaged, use the Parted Magic to check out the motherboard and it intact with no damage. I can boot with the Parted-magic and be able surf and post this question to this forums. I replaced a newly formatted hard  drive and trying to installed OS X Mountain Lions to the new drive, but unable to have it boot in my MAC PRO DVD, I get the usual chimes during the booting processed but the screen remain blackout, but able to boot with Parted-Magic to surf the web and access Apple sites/forums.
    I am not well verse in using the Parted_Magic to repair or get my-mac to boot normally so I can reinstall OS X. Any help would appreciated.
    Thank you
    Disabled Veteran. 

    Go to System Profile and look, does it say "MacPro3,1"?
    That is 2008.
    FBDIMM would be 800MHz. Did you use older slower 667MHz in yours?
    You can but take a hit in performance.
    Sounds like MacPro1,1.
    Mac Pro (3.0GHz quad core (dual CPUs) 8GB 667 RAM)
    In 2007 March an 8-core 3GHz did come out 2,1.
    So just to be clear.
    ===========
    It was all working fine a couple of days ago. At the time it randomly shut down I was trying to use Boot Camp to create a Windows 7 area,
    Whenever you want to install Windows, remove all the drives other than the one Windows goes to. And if you use a dedicated drive YOU DO NOT NEED Boot Camp Assist, unless you use XP, which really is limited and crippled (one processor, 1.9GB RAM support).
    And when it freezes, your only choice is to nuke (reformat) and restore or get out that backup CLONE you made before (ie, Step #1 in the Boot Camp Guide).
    Sure that whole NTFS / MBR / GUID could be an issue, but you should just have a blank drive or clone.
    No don't bother Apple, they seem to not have a good sense about Windows on Mac Pro anyway.
    Other than zap pram from cold boot / tried booting with NO drives inside and just 10.6. DVD - should be fine.
    You should be fine iwth Windows 7 DVD and one drive, or even XP.
    Make sure you take your time and reconnect cards etc properly and any cables.
    Booting from OS X DVDs may not work if there is a drive with a totally shot directory or partition table. Put them in FW case and turn on AFTER OS X is booted.
    Why aren't people Cloning as a Backup Strategy
    Carbon Copy Cloner 3.4.2
    How To clone

  • Hi everyone,I am new to this so please forgive me any mistakes I may make.Early 2008 Mac Pro desktop installed ML ok but next day nothing, reinstall ok restart same problem ML installer remains on my  snow leopard disk. Any help appreciated.Kind regards

    There I go first mistake straight off. I was wondering how to fit my big long problem in. My fault I am sure but if anyone can help please.
    Early 2008 Mac Pro Desk Top, 2 hard drives 1)snow leopard, 2)lion.
    I have downloaded Mountain Lion usuing disk 1,selected no.2 as my destination, installed ok everything fine, set my startup as no.2 in preferences, switch off. Next day start up - nothing, my only way to get moving was physcally remove disk 2, and let snow leopard restart.
    Reinstalled, everything fine, then same problem on restart next day, remove disk,and so on.
    The mountain Lion installer remains in the snow leopard dock.
    I know the problem is me, so if anyone is kind enough to be able to offer a solution it needs to be in easy speak (press button a, press button b) because I am not that savvy.
    my best regards to all, and thank you.

    Where did you get Mountain Lion? Did you download the 4+ GB file from the App Store? If so, then I would try doing the following:
    Drive Partition and Format
    1. Open Disk Utility in your Utilities folder.
    2. After DU loads select your second drive on which Lion is installed (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area.  If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing.  SMART info will not be reported  on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
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