Move type in subcontract
please explain about the movement types used in subcontract procurement cycle.
Hi
assuming that you have done all of these
Master Data
u2022 MM01- Material Masters for Components and FG
u2022 XK01 - Vendor Master (Subcontractor - L)
u2022 CS01 - BOM for FG
u2022 ME11 - Purchase Info record for Subcontracting
Process :-
u2022Creation of Subcontracting PO with Item Category L (ME21N) , exlode the BOM in line item details of PO
u2022Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor
(Mvmt Type - 541) (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
u2022Goods Receipt w.r.t. Subcontracting PO (MIGO)
(GR with 101 and auto consumption of
components with 543 O movement}
u2022u2022 Post Invoice (MIRO)
when configuring pl. take of reversal
Mvmt types -- 542
thanks
Prasanna
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Movement type for subcontracting jobs
Hello,
tool room - dies manufacturing
3types of subcontracting is done.
1. wirecut
2. heat treatment.
3. Machining
I issue the material on weight basis.
for heat treatment the subcontractor charges according to weight of the material i.e (weight before H.T - weight after H.T ) X cost per unit weight.
for wirecut and machining the subcontractor charges on hourly basis. where as i have issued the material on weight basis.
how the Purchase Order can be created for this situation
What movement types can be floowed for GI and GR for subcontracting jobs.
Moderator message:
Locked. Reason: subcontracting topic has been discussed many times.
Points will be unassigned.
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Jun 27, 2011 1:54 PMdoes this unit of issue of material have anything to do with the payment settlement while creating purchase order.
We are facing problem with the material movement for wirecut and machining subcontracting jobs. The PO created are not able to settle the subcontractor payment. So while goods receipt, we are cancelling the PO, in result the material comes and sits in our stock as it is, as if no operation has been done on the materials.
Scrap valuation is not being done due to the same case.
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Z movement types for subcontracting
Hi Experts
I am creating zmovement types for my subcontracting process,941,942,943.i am successfulyy send the material with subcontracting vendor with 941 movement.when i am doing GR for with 101movement type for subcontracting material.the 543 movement type is triggering automaticaly...but i need 943 movement type to be triggered.please sugest me..
Thanks in Advance...
VarunHi
Some of the movemnts cannot be replaced by Z- Movemnt types.
543 - is such a movemnt whcih gets triggered and determined based on the Value string, qunatity string and item category derivation rules.
So you cannot replace the 543 movemnt type
I would like to know ...the reason for changing the 543 movement type.
Thanks & Regards
Kishore -
About Movement type used in Goods Issue from Subcontracting Stock directly
HI SAP MM Expert,
We have transfer material to subcontractor through transfer posting using Mvt. 541 and raised subtracting challan also. Material is not returned by Subcontractor and now we want to debit Subcontractor A/c . For w we want to mkae Goods Issue (Direct consumption) from Subcontracting Stock and raised debit note subcontractor through FI. In this case what movement type & Transaction code should be used to consume stock from subcontractor account and t.code for raising debit note to subcontractor in SAP R/3 system.
Pls. suggest the process.
Regards
VKMFor subsequent adjustment to subcontracting stock use transaction MB04
If the vendor informs you that a greater or smaller quantity of the components was actually consumed than planned in the purchase order, you must post a subsequent adjustment to correct the goods issue posting. The value of the goods receipt is recalculated to include the
subsequent adjustment quantity. (SAP transaction MB04)
Subsequent Adjustment to Subcontracting PO (Move 121/544)
Negative adjustment (Vendor Consumed Less but you Consumed
more in SAP and subsequently you did minus adjustment to component consumption
in SAP)
Debit
- Raw Material Inventory (S)
Credit
- Vendor Subcontracting Charges (H)
Subsequent Adjustment to Subcontracting PO (Move 121/543)
Positive adjustment (Vendor consumed more but you consumed
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Credit
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Debit
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Thanks
DD -
In migo 545 mov type is occuring instead of 543(Subcontracting Process)
Hi All
Subcontracting scenario is there
Movement type as per declaration.
201-- Some material is issued.
262-- one material is reversed.
541--Transfered to Sub con(Same reversed mat is included here)
101--Migo is done after comming back from vendor(SC)
Now instead of settling raw materials by 543 mov type, system is showing mov type by 545,
no negative qty is declared in PO.
Where the error is
Rgds
Ana
Edited by: ana kamat on Dec 24, 2008 1:23 PMHi,
Movement type as per declaration.
201-- Some material is issued.--- to cost center
262-- one material is reversed---- reversal for a different mvt type(production order)
541Transfered to Sub con(Same reversed mat is included here)- w.r.t. PO
101Migo is done after comming back from vendor(SC)---GR for subcon PO
Now instead of settling raw materials by 543 mov type, system is showing mov type by 545,
no negative stock is declared in PO.
Check in the BOM in PO(material data tab in PO whether the material qty given is -ve)
scrap/byproducts are accumulated in vendor's place using this mvt type.
You have to recieve using 542.
Regards,
Deepak. -
Business area not appearing in GR of Subcontracting (Movement type 543)
Dear Gurus
We have created new plant B (and assigend to Company code B) by copying existing plant A (assigned to Company code A). Business area B was defined and assigned to plant B and valuation area. When we do normal GR document business area appears in material document but when we are doing GR for sub contracting (posting key 81) with movement type 543 Business area doesnt appear in the material doc .
In cancellation of Subcontracting material document for plant B (Movement type 544) Business area appears properly . We are unable to analyse the issue. Request your help.
Appreciate your early response
Regards
Arunjit CHi,
I assume you know the GL account that should be posted when doing the GR for subcontrating with movement type 543. Try SA38 report RM07CUFA which compares the movement type field status and the GL account field status.
Maybe business area is suppressed in one of the field status and cannot be posted to?
Best regards, Christian -
QM in subcontracting mov type return.
Dear friends ,
We need to copy movement types 541 and 542 to send and returns stocks to outside storage location.
Could I use and return by MB1B copy of mov type 541/542 putting the stock onto quality control (QM) ?
Is it possíble use it to check material by QM functions on return ?
best regards,
aleIn the material master create QM view
Please create QM info record :QI01 for the subcontracting material using SAP QM module person.
Create a P.O. with subcontracting.
You can send the subcontracting material to the vendor using T.code: ME2O
You can inward the material in 101 movement , the qty will automatically in QM .If you inward in 101 movement the stock will be deducted in 543 movement from the subcontrator end.
once the inspection is completed. you have take USER DECISION .Ask you QM moduel person it will be in STOCK
G.Ganesh Kumar -
Re -Reconcillation of subcontracting challan against "102" mov type mat doc
Dear All,
While we are doing the reconcilliation of the Material document (mov type-"102" ) against the subcontracting challan (ALREADY fully reconcilled against 101 material document, but not compeleted), then system is NOT allowing us to do the reconcillation, requirement is to reduce the qty assignment in already reconcilled challan, as we have reversed the material document
1.) When we have assigned the 102 movement type to movement type group to 0001( Issue movement type group)
then system is giving an error message : 8I567-Challan not valid, Material doc. is valid for another scenario during J1IFQ.
2.) and when we are assigning the 102 movement type to movement type group 0002( Receipt movement type group) , then system gives error message : 8I574 -Material XXX is not assigned fully, short by YYY KG
Please suggest the right way of doing it.
Thanks & Regards
Nitin ChhabraHi
If a challan is reconciled it should not be opened again. That is illegal. You need to do subsequent adjustment if you want to alter your consumption in subcontract. If you do 102 and reverse your consumed material,You need to include 544 movement type in your movement type grouping then You need to create a new 45a challan.
Regards
Antony -
Subcontract GRN - disable quantity field for 543 movement type
Dear All,
1) while making the GRN for subcontract PO the raw material will get consumed by 543 movement type but here the field is editable and we need to make it uneditable
2) also if you might have observed that raw material qty will be calculated as per ratio but if i change the semi-finished matl qty the consumption qty of RM is not amended immdiately and if we need to take as per ratio in PO, we need to close the line by pressing " + " and amend the semi-finished qty and system will calculate the ratio and you can check by again pressing "+"
this is certainly not desirable and we need the change in RM qty immedietely after changing semifinished goods qty.
Please suggest me how to make it without help of ABAPER.
Regards,
VimleshHi,
Saying with regret that it is not possble in standard SAP .we had faced the same problem at my cleint side.We had gone for a custom development where the quantity field against the Input material will be not editable .
Regards
Sandeep -
Repair / Subcontracting with non standard mov types.
Dear friends,
I have copied mov type 541 to 941 , 542 to 942 and 543 to 943.
When I post trhu MB1B .. with mov.type 941 , and receive it via MIGO with mov type 101 the system is determining the mov type 543 and not the 943 as we do need.
Does anyone knows if I got to change this behavior ?
This scenario is to use the same functionality of Subcontracting to repair materials. Other Ideas ?
best regards,
AleHi,
Please go to the transaction code- ' OPKA ' and in the 'Parts Provided' column of the table replace 543 with 943 movement type for the movement type 101.Save your data and try again the process.
Please note that, the standard Sub-contracting procedure (541-101(543)) will be impacted with this change.
Regards,
Narayana. -
Movement type group in CIN subcontracting
hi
What is the relevenace of meovement type group in SAP CIN.
there are two movement type group 0001 & 0002 .......what is the relevance of these groups in subcontracting and if a movement type is not assigned with these groups how does it impact in system. On which basis a movement type is assigned to them.
if i assign movement type 101 to group 0002 is there anything wrong in it
I want to understand there significance and impactHi,
The logic is quite simple to understand
Lets start from beginning
Step 1>
First we need to define subcontracting attributes in CIN customizing
Logistics General --> Tax on Goods Movement --> India --> Business Transactions -->Subcontracting -->Subcontracting Attributes
Here we maintain entries for your Excise group , Excise TT (57FC) ,Sub Transaction Type (01)
Now here you will find 2 fields
Mvt Grp Issues i.e Movement Type group for Issue.The movement types relevant for issue of materials are grouped for a combination of transaction type and subtransaction type.Which is 0001 in standard SAP
Mvt Grp Receipt Movement Type Group Receipts.Receipt of materials are grouped for a combination of transaction type and subtransaction type.Which is 0002 in standard SAP
Step 2
And in next step we define the movement types to its group
Logistics General -->Tax on Goods Movement --> India -->Business Transactions --> Subcontracting --> Maintain Movement Type Groups
Now just think Logically forget CIN
Which are your receipt movement types ?
101,542 etc so assign these to Mvt type Grp 0002
Which are your issue movement types ?
122 ,102,541 etc so assign these to Mvt type Grp 0001
Now detailed explanation from SAP just find the document
"J85 u2013 Subcontracting without Payment of Excise Duty :Building Block Configuration Guide"
Link : http://help.sap.com/bp_bblibrary/600/Documentation/J85_BB_ConfigGuide_EN_IN.doc
Also check http://help.sap.com/bp_bblibrary/600/html/J85_EN_IN.htm for process details -
Error in MIGO of Subcon PO in MTO scn, not triggering Movement type 543/E
Dear Consultants,
I am trying to perform Goods receipt against a Subconctracting PO, in a MTO scenario. The components are linked to Sales Order (Special Stock - E). I have maintained '0' in the Individual / Coll requirements field in the MRP 4 view of the component.
So after creation of PO(Subcon), I am trying to perform MIGO - without issuing components to vendor as 541/E movement type for componenets is not allowed in standard.
While performing MIGO I am getting the error no stock available with vendor, the system is trying to trigger 543/O movement type whereas I am expecting 543/E to be triggered for the components.
I am also not able to perform 311/411 E movement type for the components as they are linked to WIP Batch.
Can anyone sujjest if there is a way by which the MIGO should trigger 543/E during MIGO.
Thanks
Arindam.Hi
i donr think the movement type 543 E will trigger as the subcontracting only supports 543 O in standard , you need to do customizing as follows
Also check in SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups > here for Movement Type Group "0002", Movement Type "543 E" should be maintained.
just check following link for the subcontracting with sales order ,
[Sub Con 1|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/4d/2b90b043ad11d189410000e829fbbd/content.htm]
[subcon 2|Subcontracting for project stock; -
Goods Receipt through internal order with movement type 262
Dear Friends,
some of our users making entries like the following
1. created Internal Order
2. Creating Reservation with movement type 262 ( which not issued material through movemnt type 261)
3. Stock updated
i just want to confirm, we not issued like X material, even stock not available, we can make entries like the above, To receive X material from Internal order/ subcontractor using movement type 262.
kindly advice please if it is wrong then tell me the process.
Regards,
Rajesh GHI,
if we receive material from subcontractor what process we can do...
can you explain your issue exactly what problem you have at your end .
I think you want to take subcontracting material inside which is not in sap system now,it may finished material or it may component.If you don't want to show this material as at vendor now
then you can try movement type 501 or through physical inventory t-code MI10
Regards
Kailas Ugale -
Transfer posting with Mov Type 311E in MIGO with reference to SC-PO
Hi,
I am working with MTO scenario.
I want to carry out transfer posting of material with movement type 311E against subcontracting Purchase Order which is sale order specific.
However, system does not allow me to do the same. whenever transfer posting, PO & movement type is selected in transaction MIGO, item details entry tabs are displayed blank.
Below steps are being follow:
Scenario is MTO ( special stock subcontracting)
1. Subcontracting PO no. 4500000147 against Sale Order no 61 created.
2. RM code - 61, available stock 100 TO & batch no.0000000127
3. Transfer material to vendor for processing through MIGO ( since it is a special sales order stock, transferring happens from SL 0001- Main Stores to SL VLSC -Virtual storage location) using movement type 311 E
5. Item Data details tabs are blank.---This is the issue / error.
Note: I am restricted to post transfer posting through MIGO-Transfer Posting (will not use MB1B) due to some enhancement of MIGO and interfaces with legacy system.
Please have a look on attachment for SAP screen issue.
Regards
Mohit JaiswalHi Mohit ,
please check below link , you need to perform steps as given
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/4d/2b90b043ad11d189410000e829fbbd/content.htm
also see the sales order subcontracting using the business addon
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/en/c7/2587b8dad94c52854ccd28015dceb0/frameset.htm -
Dear Experts,
I have a scenario in which I am doing a subcontracting of Material A (SPK 30).
The BOM of A is as follows.
A -> FERT (Quantity 1)
B -> HALB (Quantity 1)
C -> HALB (Quantity 1)
D -> HALB (Quantity 1)
I am giving Materials B, C and D to Vendor and I am receiving Material A as my subcontracting material.
But now due to change in the customer requirement I need to send Material A again to vendor.
So now my subcontracting material is D. As per customer requirement, he donu2019t want material C & D in the complete assembly, instead of C & D, he want material E & F in the assembly.
The BOM of material D looks like
D -> FERT (Quantity 1)
A -> FERT (Quantity 1)
C -> HALB (Quantity 1-)
D -> HALB (Quantity 1-)
E -> HALB (Quantity 1)
F -> HALB (Quantity 1)
I manually created a BOM of material D as above in subcontracting PO.
So once I do the MIGO (GR) of material D, it should increase the stock of material C & D because I have indicated them as u2018u2013veu2019 quantity.
When I do the MIGO of material D, movement type 545 (by product) is getting triggered for C & D but I was unable to enter the storage location. The field storage location was not present under the tab u2018Whereu2019.
Whereas the same was working fine in case of in house production.
Your reply is highly appreciated.
Thanks & Regards,
MayurOn doing MIGO,In case of movement type 545,by product will be at subcontractor place not at storage location.
Check material stock(C,D) in MMBE - Special stock - 'O' or MBLB.
Edited by: Jeyakanthan A on May 19, 2011 3:45 PM
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