MOVED: Help: MSI P35 NEO3-F +E5200 Overclocking

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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=126174.0

Hi Nomi929,
Welcome to the Forum. For overclocking questions and advices, I'll move your thread to Overclockers Section for further discussions.
It will also be good if you can create a signature to include your full system and PSU specs.

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  • MOVED: MSI P35 NEO3

    This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
    https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=117976.0

    The P35 Neo3 does not support AHCI, neither the ICH9 chipset nor the Jmicron controller.  In fact, the Jmicron controller only supports RAID 0 or 1, or JBOD(you have to use 2 drives connected to the Jmicron controller--in JBOD the 2 drives would be spanned and seen as one large drive).  The P35s with the ICH9R chipset do have an AHCI integrated controller.
    Why do you need AHCI?  Other than hotswappable eSATA, there really isn't any advantage and sometimes a dissadvantage compared to IDE.

  • MSI P45 Neo3-FR..Overclocking help please !

    Hi i have a MSI P45 Neo3-FR [v1.0] and have managed to update bios to latest version 1.5 i am having trouble finding my way around the bios in order to overclock. Previously i have owned asus boards and it was pretty straightforward but with this board i cannot seem to have full control over all adjustments i think i could adjust fsb and possibly memory ratio and timings but not Vcore and memory voltages as they are greyed out. On the asus boards you got a dropdown list 1.1v~1.8v etc but i cannot get this option with this board.
    My memory is corsair [6400] with cpu-z it seems to have timings correct but voltage should be 1.9 my cpu is a E8200 core speed 2673x8 vcore 1.192v i have disabled speedstep [f4] and spread spectrum and the jumpers are set to 266mhz~333mhz.
    Any advice on this much appreciated i don't know if there is a tutorial specific to the msi bios advanced settings and how to enable it or a discription of what msi call the voltages adjustments doesn't seem to be v.core...confused!
    King regards all 

    Thanks for help people i have got a good overclock..well for me  I got FSB to 400mhz so my processor was 3.2ghz and memory running at 800mhz with 1:1 ratio and voltage at 1.9.
    I did try to go heigher but pc just re-booted 3 times then re-set to optimum i tried a bit more voltage for cpu but it still refused. Funny thing is when i re-did FSB to 400mhz again it booted and ran no bother i checked speed and cpu was again 3.2ghz but ram was 960mhz ... i forgot to re-set ratio back to 1:1 so my ram is running at 1920mhz instead of 1600 testing with prime but i would have thought if its stable i could push cpu further possibly as i know ram can handle a lot more than 800mhz. Is this correct ?

  • MSI P35 Plat / q6600 G0 overclocking attempt

       Hello - this is my first time OC'ing in at least 5 years, and need some advice.
        I guess manufacturers don't just let you change a multiplier anymore?? or is that an MSI thing?
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    MSI P35 Platinum
    4g Hynix 800
    Silverstone 750 PSU
    Duorb CPU cooler
    case with 6 120ms w/straight through
        I downloaded Everest system monitor and ran their queen CPU test as a benchmark fist, and noticed that at idle all of the core temps were at about 28C. I restarted and went into the bios. I turned on the option that enabled DOT for CPU and PCI (don't know if I should have,) and moved the FSB to 333. I restarted the system and went into the bios again to check for sure that the bios processor speed was 3.0 with a 9X, which it was.
        I cam into windows, and the core temps according to Everest were still the same. I then went into Prime95 and chose the SmallFFT option on 4 threads. Almost immediatly the 4th thread failed with this message:
    FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
    Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
         The third followed suit very soon after. In the mean time, Everest showed the core temps getting up as high as 48-50. Within a minute of the second thread failure, I got a blue screen of death, and the computer restarted - to which I promptly loaded the optimized defaults back.
      So my question is, was this because I'm not going to be able to reach 3.0 speed? Did I do something incorrectly? Does this indicate that the voltage needs to be raised? if so by how much? Are those temperatures bad? If someone could give me some advice I'd greatly appreciate it.
    btw, I tried running 3 different software CPU clock changers, all returning errors about not being able to load drivers. I'm on vista enterprise 64, and ran the "fix" to turn off mandatory driver signature, but still had this problem.

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    I guess manufacturers don't just let you change a multiplier anymore??
    Disable EIST in Cell Menu and you should be able to do so.
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    turned on the option that enabled DOT for CPU and PCI (don't know if I should have,)
    Disable DOT if you are manually overclocking your system.  DOT stands for "Dynamic Overclocking Technology".  It is an overclocking on demand feature that will automatically raise clock speeds and voltage values.  Automatic overclocking and manually overclocking exclude each other.
    Clear CMOS with main A/C power cable removed from PSU and load "Optimized Defaults" in BIOS after that.
    Keep DOT and Spread Spectrum disabled in Cell Menu at all times when you are overclocking your system. Keep the voltage values on AUTO for now and see how far you can get by just raising FSB Clock Speed (step by step).  Pay attention to memory frequency when you raise FSB Clock Speed.  Memory Frequency depends on FSB Clock speed and will increase with it.  You have to adjust FSB/Memory Ratio in BIOS in relation to the FSB Clock range you use to keep memory frequency within specification (DDR2-800).

  • MSI P35 Neo3, Error on Boot up

    Hi, having some problem booting up my p35 neo3 sometimes..  .. then upon rebooting it for 3-4 times, the system will boot up and display 'Warning!!! The previous performance of overclocking is failed, and the system is restored to the defaults setting, Press and key exclude 'DEL' to enter SETUP... "
    when i didnt on the D.O.T or dint overclock my system at all...
    is it something wrong with my motherboard ?
    sorry for lack information about my system
    INTEL C2D E6750
    Kingston Value RAM 2x2Gb 667
    Power Supply Simbadaa 500 watt
    Seagate 1.5 Tb SATA
    PixelView N8600 GT,

    Hi Mark,
    I don't thing it correlation with my Power supply, it's happened since last month.
    btw, here is the info of my Power supply :
    Simbadda AL-B530E, 530Watt
    +5V    = 16A
    +3.3V = 22A
    +12V1 = 15A
    +12V2 = 16A
    -12V   = 0.8A
    +5VSB = 2.5A
    I have try to clear the CMOS, event i change the battery also. :(
    Quote from: Mark on 16-October-10, 23:47:14
    Can you please give some more information on that power supply? Find the label stuck on the side of the power supply and post the amperage for the +3.3v, +5v and +12v rails.
    Has the problem you describe always happened from the start or has it begun happening more recently?
    Clear the CMOS to verify all settings are set to default. >>Clear CMOS Guide<<

  • MSI P35 NEO3 problem with led, power etc. connectors! Plz help

    Problem was just stupid. Man which sold me this mobo placed coolers on phase units and i didnt know that. I thought its something fabricly placed.
    Now i have some other stupid problem and that is how to connect led, power switch, hdd and etc., ive thought that I have done everything in the right way, but when I start up my machine after 1/10 s which shows something on the screen everyhing goes black.
    I'm connecting chassis connectors for the first time so what can be mistake?
    Can someone send me a picture of a correctly placed connectors so i could copy that, and give me some guidelines how to do that?
    Also do i need to connect both ends of 6 pin power connector (2x4 pin) or I can use only one)?
    Thanks!

    Mh, can you take a picture and post it here?

  • MSI P35 NEO3+E2180!

    Could someone give me some guidlines for oc. For now I've set fsb to 250, memory (KIngstone HyperX 800Mhz) works at 830Mhz, nothing else changed. Do I need to shut off eist, spread spectrum etc.
    Also where can i change DDR commande rate?
    And would I lower my temperature using titan nano insted of intel stock paste???
    By the way this is my first MSI mobo and for now I'm trilled

    nikolat, please create a signature that includes detailed system specs.  That way people have a mental picture of your system and don't have to ask you in every thread you open.
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    Also where can i change DDR commande rate?
    You can't, and there is no point to mess with the command rate on this Intel Chipset to begin with.  The performance bonus would be insignificant and the negative affect on system stability would drive you crazy.  Command Rate is set to 2T by default and it is supposed to be like that.
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    And would I lower my temperature using titan nano insted of intel stock paste???
    The best way to optimize your CPU temperature is to get rid of the Intel Stock cooler and get yourself a better third party one.   They will keep your processor cooler and produce a lot less noise because the fan will run at lower speeds most of the time.
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    Could someone give me some guidlines for oc.
    The board has two FSB Strap Jumpers (check user manual), that allow you to force your processor into an FSB-266 MHz or FSB-333 MHz strap without messing with the BIOS.  If I was you, I would see if your CPU can be forced into the 266 MHz or 333 MHz strap without running into stability problems.  See what works and OC from there.
    Always keep your memory voltage in mind.  The BIOS will automatically set memory clock speed to 800 MHz if you set your FSB to 200/266/333 MHz using the OC jumpers.  But as soon as you increase FSB Frequency from these hardware-forced value, memory Speed will also increase as it depends on FSB clock speed. Manually adjust memory clock speed by setting a FSB/Memory ratio that corresponds to the FSB Clock Speed you set.  You don't want to overclock your memory modules too much as it will make your system instable sooner or later.
    Disable Spread Spectrum when you are overclocking.  EIST should work even if your processor is overclocked (at least up to a certain FSB frequency/VCore value).  See how far you can get with EIST enabled. 

  • MSI P35 Neo2-FR "previous overclocking failed" error

    Hi all, 
    I've researched around the MSI forums here and there and figured this problem can only be fixed by replacing the MB at MSI, so we've sent this MB to the MSI vendor in Hong Kong (South China -- www.schot.com), twice, yet every board they return still shows this error. Why's MSI's service so bad?
    The symptom is that every time the motherboard powers on, it shows a "previous overclocking failed" (or something like that) error. It happens every single time, unless when CMOS is cleared, then the MB will powers up without the error for one time, one time only, then on next reboot/power on, the error is back.
    System config:
    CPU: Intel Q6600
    RAM: G.Skill PC6400 1GB x 2
    We've tried upgrading and downgrading BIOS versions, switching RAMs and CPUs... still no wonder... 

    Don't put the blame on MSI yet.
    It is quite hard to find board replacements which keeps repeating the same problem, and I suggest that you should also check on the following:
    1) BIOS settings
    2) PSU
    3) Shortings
    4) RAMs
    5) Chassis
    Also check with the serial sticker located somewhere at the back of the board and see if it is always the same number that comes back as a replacement. If that is so, then something is not right here and you should reach for the next level for RMA.

  • MOVED: Help MSI Gaming 7

    This topic has been moved to GAMING Motherboards.
    https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184231.0

    Quote from: viaimpedita on 23-October-14, 03:26:17
    standard version of windows 8. I don't know what version is preinstalled.
    Version of driver for motherboard and graphics, not Windows..

  • MSI p35 neo3 and CM Elite 333,Is it compatibile with Pentagram hp120 Karakorum?

    Hello. I wanna to buy this cooler. Can I mount it to my motherboard? When I mount this stuff Can I close my case?

    You have to ask CM for compatibility and cooler dimension and requirements.

  • P35 Neo3 with CL4 Memory XLR8

    Hi,
    the Extreamemory XLR8 DRR2 800 CL4 memory won't be correctly detected on my MSI P35 Neo3.
    The board detect the memory only as CL5 but the memory is CL4 at 800 and CL5 at 1066.
    plz help
    Sys specs:
    Intel Core2 Q9450
    MSI P35 Neo3
    8 GB DDR2 800 CL4 XLR8
    XFX GeForce 8800 GTX XXX

    Hello Takatu,
    if the Board automatically detects your memory as DDR2-800/CL5, it does exactly what it is supposed to do for the following reasons:
    1. The Intel P35 Chipset/Memory Controller does not natively support DDR2-1066 memory but DDR2-667/800 only:
    Intel® 3 Series Chipsets Datasheet — For the Intel® 82Q35, 82Q33, 82G33 Graphics and Memory Controller Hub (GMCH) and Intel® 82P35 Memory Controller Hub (MCH) 
    ->compare page 354:
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    10.2.5 System Memory Technology Supported
    The (G)MCH supports the following DDR2 and DDR3 Data Transfer Rates, DIMM
    Modules, and DRAM Device Technologies:
    • DDR2 Data Transfer Rates: 667 (PC2-5300) and 800 (PC2-6400)
    • DDR3 Data Transfer Rates: 800 (PC3-6400) and 1066 (PC3-8500)
    2. The JEDEC Standard Timings for DDR2-800 modules are 5-5-5-18 (@1.8V (+/-0.1V)).  If the SPD programming of your modules meets JEDEC standard recommendations, your modules are supposed to be detected as DDR2-800/CL5.
    The information Extreme Memory provides for their memory modules is not very detailed, but according the following "datasheet", the SPDs of your modules are programmed to meet JEDEC Standard specs:
    http://www.extrememory.com/content/pdf/en_poster_exme_dram_a4.pdf
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    Due to a JEDEC membership and certified production they are also highly compatible.
    3. Most of the memory modules sold as DDR2-1066 are actually DDR2-800 modules with an official manufacturer's permission to overclock them to DDR2-1066 speed (which means that you have to increase memory speed and voltage yourself).
    Check the SPD tables of your modules using CPU-Z ("SPD") and see if there is a list of timings for DDR2-1066 MHz (533 MHz).
    To make your RAM operate with 4-4-4-12 timings, you have to adjust you timings manually in BIOS and increase the voltage to the recommendations of the manufacturer.  For DDR2-1066 operation, change FSB/Memory Ratio and Memory voltage to the corresponding values.

  • MSI P35 NEO2 FIR voltage problems!!

    Let's start:
     I have MSI P35 NEO2 FIR ,e5200,2 x Geil ultra plus 1066+,as us 2900CT,lcpower 6550g and...rest- not so important for my questions.
    1.My problem is next: default voltage values for my RAM is ~2.2-2.4 every time I check in windows (speedfun,sisoft Sandra, everest..)shows me 2.0 or some time even 1.8v  . When i change voltage in bios and went to win voltage on RAM is still unchanged (2.0v)  .
    Same thing happen with NB voltage. But CPU voltage I can change freely with no problem.
    When I change fsb(try to overclock) suddenly memory voltage rises how i do not now  , but only to 2.35 and no more.
    Can anyone help me fix this problem because my memory is not stable at 2.0 or 1.8 sometimes and system crashes?
    2.When i change cpu settings from 12.5*200 to (example)10*300 in windows even in system properties see that my current clock is 12.5*300=3750 and not 10*300=3000 like it should be .
    Is it bios problem?
    My bios version is 1.9.
    Thanks!

    same problem with the Neo2 FR (like mine). After quite of bit of researching and testing i reckon that software can not correctly read the vRAM on these MSI boards. I found that Speedfan, Everest, and HardwareMonitor all gave an incorrect reading for my RAM's voltage. Also, if i increased the cpu voltage in the BIOS then the voltage monitoring programs would show an increase in CPU voltage and RAM voltage (even though i had not changed the latter).

  • P35 NEO3-F with E6300

    i want to use Intel Dual core E6300 (2.8 GHz) with MSI P35 NEO3-F, it is not mentioned in supported CPU list, will it work? please do not mix it with Core 2 Duo E6300

    Quote from: 3dfx on 25-August-09, 13:32:53
    i want to use Intel Dual core E6300 (2.8 GHz) with MSI P35 NEO3-F, it is not mentioned in supported CPU list, will it work? please do not mix it with Core 2 Duo E6300
    Are you talking about this processor: http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=41493
    If so, the answer is NO, is not "officially" supported (the processor is too new for this mainboard).
    However, this processor is supported by the latest (v1.3) BIOS version: http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=37212
    You need to contact MSI (another BIOS update is required): http://ocss.msi.com.tw
    cheers

  • Need help with MSI P45 Neo3-FR

    I haven't been here in a long time. My old board (just replacing it) worked perfectly for almost 4 years after I ironed out the kinks (MSI 865p Neo2-FISR) but I finally decided to upgrade my rig, but here comes the headaches...
    I bought the following for my new setup:
    MSI P45 Neo3-FR (came with BIOS 1.3 installed)
    2GB (2x1) Corsair Dominator 6400C4D
    MSI Radeon HD 4850
    Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180 (I want to overclock it hehe)
    Lite-On SATA CD/DVD-RW
    Old Hardware being used:
    Antec TruPower 550W EPS12 (single rail 36amps on +12)
    Cooler Master Centurion (forgot what model) Case
    Logitech USB Keyboard
    Logitech MX518 USB Mouse
    2x120mm fans
    2xMaxtor SATA 80GB HDDs (note: NOT SATA II, and I want to run these in RAID 0 off the ICH10R, this is specifically why I bought this board I was going to go with the P43-Neo3 over this, but the inclusion of RAID sold me on it)
    1xMaxtor SATA 160GB HDD (note: NOT SATA II)
    Aside some trouble I had with the Intel HSF installation was a breeze. Everything is in. I wanted to run everything stock first. Jumped into the BIOS and set the following:
    SATA Controller - RAID
    DRAM Voltage - 2.1v
    Drive Layout:
    SATA1 - 80GB Maxtor
    SATA2- 80GB Maxtor
    SATA7 - Optical Drive
    SATA8 - 160GB Maxtor
    First power on to get into the BIOS was quick. After setting SATA to RAID, POST will hang at Auto-Detecting ACHI Port 1....then find HDD after about 20-30 seconds. And it will repeat itself for Port 2. So its taking me close to a minute (I might be exagerrating but it sure isn't quick and long enough to irritate me having to keep booting) just to POST and even access the BIOS.
    Tried to use my current Windows XP install, got to the Windows XP Splash screen and it rebooted. Tried again, with super long ass POST, again rebooted at the splash screen. Said, fine I'll reinstall XP.
    While browsing here I forgot where I read about the SATA and long posts, so I changed my 2x80GBs to SATA3 and SATA4, it no longer takes a minute to POST, goes quick as normal.
    Set Optical to boot, go into the Windows XP Install screen, F6 for custom drivers, made a RAID disc using three sources (1. RAID drivers from MSI Website, 2. RAID drivers from MSI CD included with Motherboard, 3. RAID Drivers from Intel website) and each time at a certain point I'd get a BSOD.
    Tried again by moving my last HDD/Optical to the ICH10 and disabled the Jmicron. Same, BSOD.
    Switched off RAID in the BIOS and set it to IDE. AGain BSOD at XP Install.
    Started to think it was a Memory issue, ran Memtest both sticks passed.
    One thing I noticed in the BIOS, it has my RAM clocked at 1066. Everything is on auto minus the voltage, but I didn't think it would affect it. So I changed the Ratio from auto to 1:2 (800mhz CPU:800mhz DRAM) but still BSOD everytime I try to install Windows.
    This is getting frustrating. I've run out of ideas. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Quote from: BOSSKILLER on 02-August-08, 22:07:06
    Read here how to do it:
    >>> Slipstreaming Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Create Bootable CD<<<
    >>> Slipstreamed Windows XP CD Using SP2<<<
    Other option is borrow such installation disk from friends.
    I moved away from my "friends" and none PC literate, so I'd be better off driving to the store and buying Vista at this point. Haha.
    Okay, going to try this...sounds like that project I started a whiles back but got lazy.
    Thanks guys, I'll report any results.

  • Overclocking q9300 on MSI P35 Neo2-FR

    Hi there, 
    I'm after a bit of advice on overclocking my processor.
    I've got a Msi P35 Neo2-FR motherboard, Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-6400 XMS2 DHX (4-4-4-12) Memory, a 650w power supply and a Quad core Q9300.
    My aim is to overclock the q9300 to 3ghz. Could you please give me info on what settings you'd set the following to.
    cpu voltage,
    vtt fsb voltage,
    nb voltage,
    sb I/O power,
    sb core power,
    Thanks for any help. I'm just worried that I use the wrong setting resulting in a mini nuclear explosion. 

    Look here: http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=techexpressdesc2&express_no=52&page=2

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