MOVED: k7n7 Delta ILSR - Sata problem / win7 / SATA PCi card / onboard SATA

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:angryfire:Still having no joy trying to get this sata drive to boot on its own done everything in the manuel and in the forums as stated in my first post and deathstalkers post and still nothing aint nothing wrong with my mobo or hdd please help has anyone had this problem i fear even with the Pheonix Award bois v7.8 which i have doesnt support the boot from scsi since it will not boot even when ive made the array and made it bootable and set the scsi to the second boot device and installed winxp from the cd it just keeps on restarting
any help ei someone with a similar setup to me tell me everything they did in the bios settings would be a bonuse think i am missing something else besides the normal procedure any help will be most welcomed
thanks all
Dave

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[nForce] K7N2 Delta ILSR - Do i have to have raid with sata drive

Hi guys,
Probably a really stupid question, but here goes
My machine has 1 ide HDD and 1 SATA HDD.
The SATA drive is set up as raid0 and is purely used as a data disk. The OS(win xp pro sp1) is on the IDE drive
The only way i could get the SATA HDD recognised by windows, was to set up a raid array with just the 1 disk.
Pretty useless raid array i know.
Did i have to do this or is there a way to have the sata hdd usable without having to set up a raid array
Thanks
John L
MSI K7N2 DELTA ILSR
ATHLON XP 2500 Barton
2X512 MB PC3200
Leadtek GF4mx460
WD 8MB CACHE 80Gb IDE
Samsung 120Gb Sata

you have to do it for the controller to work
but it has no effect on the drive
you can move a regular drive on ide 3 back to a normal ide and its all fine

MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR Memory problems

I'm trying to burn in a system in a 50 deg C (122 deg F) room for a minimum of 12 hours. The main system components are as follows:
Motherboard: MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR
CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2800+
Memory: 2x512 OCZ PC3200 EL
My problem is that the burn-in software continues to freeze up during the memory test. I've already contacted the software manufacturers and the software is stable. It's a problem with the way the motherboard handles the memory. I've tried putting the memory in dual channel configuration and changing the timing settings in the BIOS. The SPD settings are 2.5-3-3-7. Right now I have them at 3-4-3-8. It's a lot more stable than it was under the default settings but it still freezes up sometime after 7 hours. Unfortunately, I wasn't around when it froze so I don't know exactly how long it lasted. I can say that after 7 hours, it wasn't showing any slowdown in performance. If anyone could think of anything else I might be able to do to get the system stable, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks for the suggestions. The CPU FSB is 200, so it's already matched up there. And we have a ton of fans already. There are two in the front, 4 inside and 1 on the back. It's a custom case, 2u high. The power supply is oversized and more than adequate to provide the required power. I have four of these units running right now. Two with 2x512 sticks and two with 1x1024 sticks. For each combination, the memory clock speed for one is 166 and 200 for the other. I have been loosening up the memory timings trying to get the system stable, but it still isn't. If the power supply is good, and I'm unable to cool the system anymore due to limititions within the case, is there anything you can think of to stabilize the system. Maybe other settings in the BIOS or suggestions on how to go about getting good timings for the memory. Thanks.

K7n2 delt ilsr instabilty problem update

have a k7n2 delta ilsr have an issue where it is unstalble ie get bsod at welcom etc at 400 fsb ie 200 setting in bios will run at 166 in safe mode the 3200 cpu is reconised as at 2.39 ghz it should be 2.2 ghz if i run cpucz it says the multiplier is *12 is this a motherbord fault have updated bios too 7.8 latesed have tried diff make of memory power supply but i think the problem is looking me in the face in the fact that the cpu is reconised as 2.39 ghz and the muilt is *12 i think it should be * 11 can any body help regards bazer

yes has latesd bios    AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+ here is some info pc wizard 2005
Codename :   Barton
Revision :   A2
Technology :   0.13µ
CPU ID :   6.A.0
CPU IDEx :   7.A.0
Features :
VME - Virtual Mode Ext. :   Yes
DE - Debugging Extension :   Yes
PSE - Page Size Extension :   Yes
TSC - Time Stamp Counter :   Yes
MSR - Model Specific Registers :   Yes
PAE - Physical Address Extension :   Yes
MCE - Machine Check Exception :   Yes
APIC - Local APIC Built-in :   Yes
SEP - Fast System Call :   Yes
MTRR - Memory Type Range Reg. :   Yes
PGE - Page Global Enable :   Yes
MCA - Machine Check Architecture :   Yes
PAT - Page Attribute Table :   Yes
PSE36 - 36-bit Page Size Extension :   Yes
PSN - Unique Serial Number :   No
DS - Debug Trace & EMON Store :   No
ACPI - Software Clock Control :   No
SS - Self Snoop :   No
TM - Thermal Monitor :   No
HTT - Hyper-Threading :   No
SBF - Signal Break on FERR :   No
MON - Monitor/Mwait :   No
DSCPL - CPL qualified Debug Store :   No
TM2 - Thermal Monitor 2 :   No
CID - Context ID :   No
EST - Enhanced SpeedStep Tec...   No
NX Bit - No-execute Page Protec...   No
VMX - Vanderpool Technology :   No
Miscellaneous :
FPU - Co-processor Built-in :   Yes
CX8 - CMPXCHG8B :   Yes
CX16 - CMPXCHG16B :   No
CMOV - Conditionnal Move Inst. :   Yes
CLF - Cache Line Flush :   No
FXSR - Fast Float Save & Restore :   Yes
DAZ - Denormals Are Zero :   No
MMX Technology :   Yes
SSE Technology :   Yes
SSE2 Technology :   No
SSE3 Technology :   No
X86-64 Technology :   No
AMD MMX Technology :   Yes
3DNow! Technology :   Yes
Extended 3DNow! Technology :   Yes
3DNow! Pro Technology :   Yes
SMP - MP Capability :   No
Power Status :
Voltage Control :   No
Frequency Control :   No
Thermal Sensor Built-in :   Yes
Addressing Information :
Physical Addressing max. :   34-bit
Linear Addressing max. :   32-bit
Mainboard Upgradebility :
Socket/Slot :   Socket A
Upgrade interface :   ZIF Socket
Supported Speed :   2200 MHz (or more)
Supported Voltage :   1.6V
al Information :
Performance Rating :   PR-3300 (estimated)
Real Frequency :   2164.89 MHz
Multiplier :   12x
Front Side Bus Information :
FSB Frequency :   180.4 MHz
Bus Speed :   360.8 MHz (DDR)
Initial Frequencies :
Frequency :   2000 MHz
FSB Frequency :   166 MHz
Control Clock Frequency :
Type :   None
Thermal Information :
Core Power :   63.42 W (estimated)
Resistance :   0.46 °C/W (estimated)
Processor Performance Information :
Throttle Mode AC :   None
Throttle Mode DC :   Adaptive
Current Configuration :   None
Throttle :   2164 MHz
CPU Throttle Temperature :   60°C
CPU Shutdown Temperature :   100°C
eneral Information :
A0 (RAS 0) :   256 (Single Bank)
A1 (RAS 2) :   256 (Single Bank)
A2 :   Empty
Memory Controller Information :
Memory Controller :   Standard, EDO
Number of connectors :   3
Max. Module Size :   32 MB
Max. Memory Size :   96 MB
Supported Speed :   70ns, 60ns
Supported Voltages :   5v
Error Detection Method :   8-bit Parity
Error Correction Capability :   Unspecified
Current/Supported Interleave :   1-way/1-way
Chipset Information :
Type :   DDR-SDRAM PC2900
Frequency :   180 MHz
FSB/RAM Multiplier :   1/1x
Channels :   Dual
ECC Diagnostic :   No
CAS Latency (tCL) :   3 clocks
RAS to CAS (tRCD) :   3 clocks
RAS Precharge (tRP) :   3 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) :   8 clocks
Information SPD EEPROM (A0) :
Manufacturer :   Samsung
Part Number :   M3 68L3223ETM-CCC
Serial Number :   F6016243
Type :   DDR-SDRAM PC3200 (200 MHz)
Size :   256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
Module Buffered :   No
Module Registered :   No
Width :   64-bit
Error Correction Capability :   No
Max. Burst Length :   8
Refresh :   Reduced (.5x)7.8 µs, Self Refresh
Voltage :   SSTL 2.5v
Supported Frequencies :   166 MHz, 200 MHz
CAS Latency (tCL) :   2.5 clocks @166 MHz, 3 clocks @200 MHz
RAS to CAS (tRCD) :   3 clocks @166 MHz, 3 clocks @200 MHz
RAS Precharge (tRP) :   3 clocks @166 MHz, 3 clocks @200 MHz
Cycle Time (tRAS) :   7 clocks @166 MHz, 8 clocks @200 MHz
Information SPD EEPROM (A1) :
Manufacturer :   Samsung
Part Number :   M3 68L3223ETM-CCC
Serial Number :   F6056193
Type :   DDR-SDRAM PC3200 (200 MHz)
Size :   256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
Module Buffered :   No
Module Registered :   No
Width :   64-bit
Error Correction Capability :   No
Max. Burst Length :   8
Refresh :   Reduced (.5x)7.8 µs, Self Refresh
Voltage :   SSTL 2.5v
Supported Frequencies :   166 MHz, 200 MHz
CAS Latency (tCL) :   2.5 clocks @166 MHz, 3 clocks @200 MHz
RAS to CAS (tRCD) :   3 clocks @166 MHz, 3 clocks @200 MHz
RAS Precharge (tRP) :   3 clocks @166 MHz, 3 clocks @200 MHz
Cycle Time (tRAS) :   7 clocks @166 MHz, 8 clocks @200 MHz

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I have a K7N2 Delta ILSR board with Athlon XP 2500 with 2 Gig of Mushkin Black Line ram (the ones that are
suppose to be CL2). I change the FSB to 200, and my memory won't run at CL2. Want to raise the Dram voltage
to 2.8V to see if it would make a difference. I looked all over this site for the modded bios 7.8. Does anyone
have the modded bios??? Any help would be appreciated.......

He/She overclocked the 2500+, to make it become a 3200+. Done it myself, but it mostly works with the first step of the 2500+. - That means the overclock forum.
Well, CAS 2 is a very tight timing, which I don't think is possible. In general on Socket A systems:
- FSB 133/266 --> CAS 2 or 2.5
- FSB 166/333 --> CAS 2.5
- FSB 200/400 --> CAS 3

MS-6570 delta ILSR sound problem

No matter what I do the sound seems to skip on games and music cd's. I did all the updates for the nforce drivers
even tried disabling ac97 sound on the bios. the sounds just crack and skip sometime? I have updated the bios as well.
ANY suggestions.

I have Xp PRo and Msi 6570 Delta ILSR board, 350 watt p/s and a MSI Ti4200 128 mb video card nforce chipset and MSi 52x cd-rom , 1 gb 333mhx Mhz Pc2700 in ram sockets 1 + 3 ,
120 gig WD harddrive. This I hope helps ya!
Thanks
and external usb 2.0 40X12X48 tdk burner
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Originally posted by Deathstalker
axster,
My Crystal Ball is in the shop and without it I cannot quite make out the specs on your comp's hardware, OS and Power Supply. It would really help me out if you would list them for me.
I would also download the nVidia nForce 2.03 Drivers from the nVidia website, but without being able to make out your specs, I cannot do must more than stab in the dark.
Take Care,
Richard

MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR (MS 6570) trouble With ATA card

Hi, i have major trubble.
Ihave two 300gb, two 120gb and two 80gb harddrives + 1 DVD burner and 1 CD burner with ultra DMA 100 PCI card and it works fine without using the sata or ide3 raid function. I purchased an new PCI ATA 133 card and the system won't boot. I have tried for an long time to get the raid function to work but wihtout results with my old ATA 100 card (it works when i unplugg the ide cable from ide3).
Is there anybody that knows with type off PCI ATA 133 card that works or how too coop whith this problem.
I've got the latest bios ver. 7.8 but no difference
AMD XP2800+
Kingston 2x512mb
ATI Saphire Radeon 9600pro 256mb
Soundblaster Live Value
XP pro sp2
MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR (MS 6570)

I went to JME-Data and purchased an
True430
ATX 430 Watt Power Supply with PFC
For AMD™ and Intel® systems including
Pentium® 4
Dedicated output circuitry
Voltage feedback
Antec Low NoiseTechnology
AQ3 - Antec 3 year parts & labor warranty
True430 is a 430 Watt 6-output, dual fan-cooled ATX12V (Baby AT or PS/2 Size) power supply designed for personal computer or industrial applications.
Its ATX12V compliance allows its use with the latest Pentium 4 processors while its backward compatibility ensures its usability with any ATX-based AMD™or Intel® system
The prise 1099:-
And everything works great, Thank you very much for the tip. :-)
No more blue screen and it even works with my memory Kingston Value Ram 2x512 ddr400.
Is it possible to change the FSB from 166 to 200, and what should i think about before action. Like i said before i have an xp2800+
Alltså är det möjligt att få cpu gå på samma frekvens som minnena om man ökar FSB har några tip så är jag tacksam.
Att en nätdel kan göra så mycket helt otroligt TUSEN TACK för hjälpen till och med cpu tempen har sänkts från ca 56 till 46 grader fattar ingenting.

SATA and or USB PCI card ?

I have a couple of external drives (can use either usb or esata) I want to set up on one of my PM G4's,,as we all now they only have 2 usb's and no sata connections,,so I was hoping to see if anyone has come across something like this. either a SATA/USB PCI card combo or just a SATA card and a USB card that will work this mac...

Hey thx Thomas for reminding me, I have a 4 port hub which I have'nt used in a while,,I added it and my external drive still cant be seen. any of them and I have 3 different ones,,I have done some searching on this and found something that mentioned the "mass storage" I have looked in the system profiler and dont see anything like that.could this be an issue??? also under s/p when I look at the "usb" info I see my mouse/keyboard and the hub all connected but no external drive ??? yes it's turned on hehe....oh btw how many people on here work for OWC cause it seems thats the only site any body recommends around here...lol

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I have a Sat Pro L20 (model PSL2YE-00J005EN). What PCI Card do I need for a Wi-Fi connection? They all seem to be 32 bit cards but my manual says I have a 16 bit slot.

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I have visit the Toshiba accessories website and I have found a information that some unit has always the wireless card. Did you check in the device manager if there is a wireless card?
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[RAID 0 issue] - K7N2 Delta ILSR:how can i save my RAID-0 SATA DISK datas

Hi all, as a new member, i have to underlign the fact that this forums' members are very active and helpful ( personally, i thank the front usb issue post author ).
I've an XP on a single SATA RAID-0 disk ( Promise Fasttrak 3xx duno ), since a few days, i think that the DRAM controller is KO because the mobo doesn't accept DDRAM anymore ( DDRAM is OK on other PC ). The Mboard makes long & regular beeps and i have no Video ( no BIOS & no POST ), the D-bracket indicates no memory module or memory damaged ( case 4, led 4 is the only green ).
If u have an idea to help me..
If there's nothing more to do, how can i recover the HDD's datas ? They are very important..i've heard that the disk should be plugged on the same raid chipset ( the better is the same Mboard )
Please can you help, and sorry for my French-english
EDIT: I'll fulfill w/ more specs this WE.

Just plugging/unplugging the memory somethime solves the problem. You could have had a bad insertion or just dust in the slot. Good luck with your working computer
I already answered your RAID concerns. RAID0 with only 1 HDD is no RAID at all, just a software trick to force the controler to use the drive.
Quote from: frenchy2k1 on 02-April-05, 04:15:32
If your drive is raid0, but only 1 drive, it is no RAID at all, so it should work like any disk on any computer and be recognized normally.

MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR MB Problems, Need Help ASAP!! PLEASE

Ok I just got this motherboard (MSI K7N2 Delta) Yesterday and after getting it setup I began overclocking the Processor (an AMD Athlon XP Barton Mobile 2500+) I was at 11x 215 1.750V Perfectly. I moved to 216 it started to seem unstable so I pushed the VCORE up to 1.775 and tried 217. It couldn't boot so I dropped it back down and decided ok 208 and a 11.5 multi might get me past the 2.4 mark which I was looking for. Well when I changed the Multi. to 11.5 and said save the system just sate as the flashing y for save. I could not change it to n I had already pushed enter So i firgured great and left it alone for a few minutes, nothing so I reset it. Now it refuses to boot/post. It spinds the fans the HD's the Network port is going but I get no picture. I have cleared the CMOS using the jumper I have removed the battery and power for over an hour and I still get nothing. I am assuming this is a BIOS error but I am not sure what to do to fix it. Does anyone here kno maybe, something I have yet to try something I can do? I would hate to RMA it and have to wait on newegg. Hell the thing is a day old. So please any idea's are welcome I have this posted on the Hard Forums as well but I am hopinh this forum may be more popular with getting help as no one is helping over there. Thanks!

Hi,
Cross: Just in case you are doing something wrong there's a clear CMOS guide here, follow it to the letter (and don't forget to put the FSB jumper to SAFE beforehand - there's a note about it in the guide).
How To Clear the CMOS
Your system board or CPU maybe not be dead yet - I had a similar problem with one of my boards and I tried everything - to cut a long story short I eventually got it working!!!
Btw, If you can't boot or get into the BIOS put your other CPU in (clear BIOS again after fitting!), so that you can prove whether your motherboard is working correctly!
Good luck! I'm off ta bed!
Axel

MOVED: K7N2 Delta-ILSR IDE Controller

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Hey fredick..
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you said...Please be a little more specific.It is hard to understand your post
i told you im not a master geek...
so im not sure on all the tech geek terms..
i tried to tell you best as i can to what happened..
and what im trying to fix..
its not a BURNER related problem..
its a Hard Disk controllers/PCI IDE Controllers problem..
like this example here...
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the Primary IDE Channel controller, Secondary IDE Channel controller, and a brand name controller, e.g. Intel, SIS, VIA, etc. The brand name controller is what needs to be updated. Please visit their website to obtain these updates.
like wheres the MSI or Nvidia one for Win98 OS...where do i get one..
like the chip set driver thing..
like the IDE controller thing..
where you would have a PCI ide Controller thats for the NVIDIA® nForce2 Chipset
like the one MSI/Nvidia has for a XP operating system...
like it has the IDE In-the-box 2.70 thing thats for Xp systems
wheres the One for Win98
the hard drisk controller...
that thing that is found here on a Win 98 system..
Start/Settings/control panal/System/Device Manager/Harddisk Controllers/(its suposed to be here)
and should be named something like NVIDIA Nforce2 Buss master controller
or what ever they named it...
but to answer your question..
my burner is on its own IDE and the DVD burner and is SET to master
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you asked..Do the disks have the same FAT..
yes FAT32...windows 98..Fat32
you asked...and have they had the same cable?
yes they have the 80 wire cables the newer ones for ATA 66/100/133..
i guess thats what you want to know...

MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR Power problem?!

So I worked all last night trying to fix the damn thing. It wants to keep powering off on its own. So I unplugged all the devices from the board and powersupply except the only needed items, the board, power switch, and memory (cpu fan of course left on). Still turns off. Reset bios, still. Put system into safe mode by the jumper. Still.
Okay so I gave up, and took the board, memory and processor into a local place that sells these boards. They have seen a few problems with them. 4 hrs later, $55 short they tell me the heat sink wasn't on the chip right so it caused the board to think it was hot and shut itself down right away! He said he ran it for most of the day. So I am like whatever! He left it on there how he had it. I took it home, hooked it back up, and there it goes again!
The 1st night it ran fine, no hd, but I ran it the whole evening. The 2nd night I powered it up, it started to do this. Nothing changed. So now I am getting ticked off. I am about to take my whole case, and system back to those guys and tell them see....
Anyone who has used this board have any ideas? I have built many systems and this is the first one that is being a pain in the butt.
PowerMAX 400w powersupply.
LP-8800D MODEL #

Powersupply was brand new and came with the case. :(
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Originally posted by twistedbrowntucker
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Originally posted by rzotz
What I am noticing is that when it sits for 10-15 min, and I try to turn it on again, it takes a little longer before it turns off. It actually may stay on up to 5 sec, then turn off. But if I try again a few times in a row, maybe .5-1 sec it cuts off. I have already reseated the heatsink on the processor again.
Powersupply is rated at:
+12v - 25amps
+3.3v - 28a
+5vsb - 2.0a
Power supplies can go bad at anytime.Take the whole thing up there.Case and all and let them check it out.BTW all power supplies aren't equal. IMHO buy an Antec TruePower 430 or 480 watt

MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR, Mouse problem & Video off problem solved!!!

I find the following information that I collected very interesting at the very least...
Here goes...
The video off problem that I was having was directly linked to the mouse. Here, let me explain the video off problem. In the BIOS Have the Standby mode set to S3. The problem occurred when I started windows, then went into standby, then started back up, then restarted the computer, the monitor would act as if it were in sleep mode, or rather there was no signal being sent to the monitor. Well the odd way I fixed that is by plugging in a standard 2 button PS/2 mouse. Also this fixed the issue with the mouse sometimes not working in windows.
Here is how I tested.
Logitech MX700 Cordless Optical Mouse, PS/2 & USB= failed.
Logitech iFeel Optical Mouse, USB= failed.
Microsoft Cordless Ball Mouse, PS/2= failed.
Standard Artec (Cheapy brand) Ball Mouse (With no wheel), PS/2= All issues fixed, and passed.
When I said failed I do not mean they didn't work, I mean they sometimes didn't work and also caused the Video off problem after restarting the computer.
Obviously it isn't the ports (PS/2 or USB) that are the problem, it is more like the mouse itself, and the amount of buttons in particular. As you can see above the only mouse that works correctly is the one that only has 2 buttons, the rest has 3 or more buttons along with a Wheel. The MX700 has 8 buttons + wheel, WOW!
Anyways I figure out it was the mouse, and not the memory.
Obviously MSI needs to make a patch for this mouse problem.
I'm still having a hard time believing that the mouse caused the video not to work, but it is true! I spend well over 5 hours testing this crap. Every time with the mice with more then 3 buttons it messed up, and every time with the 2 button old fashion mouse it worked flawlessly!
MSI, get to work on a new BIOS to fix this mess!!! :]
BioHaz

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Originally posted by Raven_
hi
its possible to use an ps/2 mouse AND a usb mouse at the same time.
i used the ps/2 mouse in windows and the usb mouse when playing games.
you can get some trouble if you do it the way i did it.
i was in windows surfing and the pointer just jumped all over the screen.
when i looked on the other side under a table a friends little kid played with the usn mouse. )
bye
LOL, that isn't what I'm talking about.
There seems to be a problem with my motherboard accepting mice with more then 2 buttons. It works the first time, but if you restart the computer, the video goes off. If you have both installed, it still messed up.
BioHaz

Delta ILSR boot problem

ok last week i got a Extreme Volcano 12 and
my comp was running fine. But after i installed it
it would start up and it would shut off automatically.
I thought it was the CPU, because of 2 of the holders were
missing and maybe the heartsink shocked it. So i ordered a
new CPU mobile 2500+ and yea same problem. Don't tell
its the PSU, Video Card or the CPU. I have tried each different
one with 3 different types of cpu, psu, and vid card and it still
shuts off. I have cleared CMOS many times. Don't tell me no BS
answers plz, i am experienced with building comps. WIth many trials i have come to the conlusion that is the MOBO , so im getting the new one in 2 days.
if anyone has any real idea thats logical i will try them out.
P.S - Dbracket shows a red , gred , red , red and shuts off - my manual says cpu clock and i think the heat sink messed up the cpu area IMO.
-Fred

Just out of curiosity what other Processor have you tried as the Barton 2500+ M uses a low voltage ?
and have you tried changing the J10 jumper (Safe mode 100MHz) to 2,3 or just removing the J11 jumper setting the FSB to 100MHz?
if that work then you can make some changes in the bois that suit your needs.

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