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well i dont know much but im pretty sure u should set memory timing to 1t

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K8n neo fsr overclocking results

the bios version is as follows v1.4
system specs
amd 2800+(clawhammer)
kingston 3200 512mb single stick(value)
wd800 hd
inno3d 6600gt
normal psu
bios settings
these r all the available options any one of u notice my bios missing settings.
DRAM Config
max memclock=166
1t/2t mem timing=auto
tcl=auto
trcd=auto
tras=auto
trp=auto
back to cell menu
High performance mode=manual
Aggressive timing=disabled
Dynamic OC= disabled
Spread spectrum=disabled
HTT frequency options uptil 4x(while the manual states uotil 5x)=set at 3x
adjust cpu ratio=9(max multiplier for the cpu i presume)
Adjust cpu fsb frequency=245
adjust agp frequency=67
CPU voltage set to 1.6v
cpu z shows the ram runnign at 200.5mhz
while the bios show ram runnign at 204 mhz.
who to believe. hevent tried memtest but been tryign 3dmark05 continously.
now my question is as follows i have a frnd who has overclocked a 2800 clawhammer upto 2400mhz stable on a asus k8v-x mobo i was amazed to see the options in the bios for that mobo. its a el cheapo board widout pci agp locks and yet i spent a lot more on this mobo just becuz i thought the pci/agp locks wud come in handy for overclockign seems i cant even exceed past 245. the ram being used in his pc is also the same as mine i can confirm him running at 166mhz, and prolly if i saw correctly there was some bus he was running on 600mhz.
rite now i wanna know wat r the best settings which wud get me a good overclock widout sacrificing performance which i thinkw ud be common after lowering memroy timings and crap.
last question what to spend on
512mb stick of ram that cud allow me to overclock or simple cooling which cud let me go far.
at 4x htt the after saving settings at bios the system wudnt go into bios back wen it tried to restart after around 5 mins i cud restart the system.
im bout to install the 1.7v bios
or maybe try the 1.52 beta dont know where to find it though.
here r some reviews by some forum
MSI K8N Neo Platinum [AGP/PCI Lock, FID 4x-Max, HTT Adjust, VCore, VDimm, LDT; Tested with Athlon 64 Mobile 1.4v] The board has some SERIOUS quality issues (there are too many problems to list but users are seeing everything from stability issues at stock, inability to get voltage to stay above 1.45v, only parttime working RAM divisors, flakey AGP/PCI locks, to multiplier and voltage settings that won't 'stick') Unfortunately, this is nothing new with MSI boards. What that means is that you may get a board that works fine but it is *much* more likely that you will get a board that is a big POS which will cause you to waste endless hours pulling out your hair trying (and failing) to get the board to work correctly. Until further notice, this motherboard is NOT a good choice to use with mobiles (or any other CPU for that matter.) The motherboard will boot with the shipping BIOS but the CPU will lock down to a 4x multiplier (800Mhz) To correct this one needs to update to the BETA bios 1.52 Please take note that the backplate is *glued* on, which means it's tough to get off and you need to get it off. Using acetone or heating the adhesive up with a hairdryer should allow the backplate to be easily removed. Be careful and don't use sharp objects as they may damage the board.
seems like i made the wrongest of choices for my new system, my first mistake 5 yrs ago was to buy a ca810e mobo intel. my second mistake for my second system was this after 5 yrs seems like i ahvent learned to make a decent system.
ADVICES ADVICES ADVICES. am i running the hypertransport too slow rite now.? ny views anything wud be appreciated...
cpu running at 2205*9 at 38c degrees on stock cooling.

well i dont know much but im pretty sure u should set memory timing to 1t

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This topic has been moved to AMD64 nVidia Based board.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=118264.0

Quote from: Stu on 09-July-08, 03:00:42
Check that onboard LAN is Enabled in BIOS (under Integrated Peripherals)
Was "Auto"
Quote from: HenryW on 09-July-08, 04:58:56
Looks like they're here for K8N Neo-FSR.
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=573
Will try this one, thanks! (Will post if it worked a bit later)
Umm, btw... Where should I extract the files?
Quote from: Fredrik Åsenius on 09-July-08, 05:07:48
Tjena Rikard! You have to describe your system in some detail.
Some famous culprits:
- Other PCI-cards.
- Poor or old Windows installation.
- Weak PSU.
- IRQ problem.
- A combination of all or any of above.
The network card is not a PCI-one, but integrated to the motherboard. Only card in the system is a PCI-E graphic.
Maybe poor or old windows, might try that...
Shouldn't be weak PSU, It's pretty good, I've been told.
IRQ?

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K8N Neo 2 overclock

Hi, this version of BIOS will recognize your CPU pretty well:
here you can read the info: K8N Neo2 Platinum CPU Support Status
There you can find yours as supported:
Athlon 64 3700+ (E4 version)
Marketing Name
K8N Neo2 Platinum
MSI Model
MS-7025
PCB Version
1.00
Since BIOS Version
7025v1B.zip
here is the link for the Bios: K8N Neo2 Platinum 1.B Bios Version
Could you please post your PSU specs? like this e.g. 12v 22a, 3.3v 30a, 5v 50a
kind regards

The Official MSI K8N Neo Platinum Overclocking Results Thread...

OK people we need a thread where we can all show what kind of overclocks we are getting at the moment with our A64 boards, both for our interest as a resource, and anyone who happens to want to know what the boards can do with different hardware configs.
Just post your system specs (CPU, RAM, MOBO, COOLING etc etc) highest overclocks, and as much relevant information as possible, like settings you think made a difference. If you reach a higher overclock that you originally posted, simply edit your post to reflect that.
DO NOT JUNK THE THREAD WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR HARDWARE PROBLEMS, KEEP IT SWEET AND SIMPLE AND PLEASE PM EACHOTHER IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS !!!!
Mine will be updated next week when I collect my MSI Neo Platnum, 3400+ "CG" stepping and i'm also ordering some OCZ PC3500 EB and some AData Vitesta PC4000 to play around with and hopefully hit those uber-FSB's. :D

This board is hard to figure out.
Clawhammer 3200+ CG 1MB rev 1.2 beta 5 bios
Max tested stable overclock with corsair 3200ll rev 1.2 is 220fsb 1:1 HTT divider doesn't work with this memory. HTT divider is very unstable if it works at all.
Max (still testing) with corsair 2x512mb 4400 Mem at 166:200 240HTTx4 mem at stock volts, cpu 1.6v. I just got this far this morning. Priming now as I type. Failed prime95 at 1.55v.
2xwd 36gb raptors raid 0 won't work on SATA 3,4 only 1,2. Instant bluescreen if using ports 3,4. HTT seems to max at 240 and I've tried every multiplier and 3x 2x HTT. I think I've got the 3,4 HTT limitiation and 1,2 doesn't work with my drives
I must admit up until about 2 hours ago I was very disappointed in my new platform but now the system is faster than my barton at 2500mhz with some headroom to go. It's starting to look good if i can get some of these bugs fixed in a new bios.

S3 mode doesn't work fine on K8N Neo-fsr since overclocking, please help!

I have a K8N Neo-FSR (MS-7030) BIOS version 1.6 (I tried 1.4, 1.5), running AMD64 2800+ SK 754, 2x 256MB DDR400 Kingston valueram pluging in slot 1&2. It runs well except S3 mode .
Since I overclock HTT (everythings else have their own default values), S3 mode seems to work so crazy . After wake up from this usefull stop-grant standby mode, HTT is given back to its original speed, 200MHz, without notice (?!) .
You know that I don;t like this much, do you?
Who responsible for this function? Mainboard or CPU? If it's mainboard, which department will be sentenced, BIOS or chipsets/ICs?
Could anybody give me a solution to achive higher speed by overclocking without giving up using S3?
Thanks so much!

It's a bad new! I had bad feeling about DFI with the same problem, S3 mode resuming bring FSB back to df and even sometimes led the system to the ruin. But upgrading bios solved this issue. My old Abit did S3 mode fine. Now I have a new MSI and once again I must use teknophyle's way or slow hibernation instead.
On the same occasion, I wana ask about some shortcoming in 1.6 bios: power on by keyboard/mouse and power led options. I only found S3 wake up by keyboard/mouse but not keyboard/mouse power-on options! There is power led option in version 1.56 but it disapeared in 1.6. Now my mobo has no signal to differentiate between sleep and power-off. would you give back the useful power led option and add power on by combination keys in the near future bios version, syar? Look forward to hearing some good new from you :D.

K8N Neo FSR Bios overclocking functions help needed

Hi all, I am a small pc builder for the family and i have found some problems with the bios of my uncles K8N neo FSR which I recommended for him. Basically it wouldn't seem to overclock with the 'Dynamic Overclocking' function on bios v1.7 but did manually by adjusting FSB incrementally (ie from 200 to 205 Mhz). When I questioned this before someone had mentioned that it could be ok to run like this. However I have since updated the bios to v1.9 and even v2.1 as they became available but now neither seem to overclock manually nor using 'Dynamic overclocking'
Firstly though, can someone clear up my first conception; To test if the Dynamic Overclocking function is working can I set it to a higher setting (ie.'Commander'), save and exit bios (restarting) ---> go straight back into bios ----> go straight back into Cell Menu and check 'Current frequency of cpu' has changed?
I only ask this as if this is the case then my Dynamic Overclocking function hasn't worked with three bios' and I wont bother with anything until I RMA the board lol, as I have never been able to change the frequency of my cpu at boot/bios stage with the dynamic overclocking function.
Can anyone help me?

Hi Stu, yesterday I think i found out what u mean lol. I studied a 'Sticky' ? about overclocking A64s and found some interesting stuff. Apparently overclocking the HTT is dangerous, and A64s are always at least half locked. Now with this in mind Ive been wondering if there are interlocks built into my mainboard stopping me from using the 'CPU Overclock' function to overclock my pc manually from the set 200Mhz while my HTT is still set at 4x. -I say this as the HTT on my system is 800Mhz for a socket754 Sempron 3000Bx, thus overclocking this would increase my HTT above the 800Mhz threashold (I think) lol. All sounds complex but I think Ive figured it out as Im following instructions from the sticky to lower my HTT multiplier before increasing my cpu overclock. Its hard as my mainboard has Nforce3 chipset which has different ways of overclocking to every other board lol. So far I have managed to increase the overclock, but only when the HTT multiplier is lowered to 3x. I have also lowered my cpu multiplier though, and thus am trying to figure out where my 1810Mhz clock speed has changed to 1630 lol. Will try again now. I want to raise the clock speed above 1810, keeping the HTT lower than 800 and leaving the memory alone at 400DDR lol. Im hoping the memory is seperate as it seems to be on this chipset.

Have you sucessfully overclocked you K8N Neo FSR? Plz post details.

Hi guys !
Im still stuck with my system that does NOT want to be overclocked so I wanted to know if I'm the only one or not ?
If you have managed to overclocked you system using K8N Neo FSR please post you details.
And I'm also looking for tips on how to bypass issues related to unsucessful overclocking.
Thank You.
I've managed to do this so far...
A64 3200+ NewCastle CG-stepping @ 210x11 vCore 1.55
Corsair Value Select DDR 400 @ 3-3-3-8-2T VDimm 2.70
using official BIOS version 1.4
But that's it...
If I increase vDimm above 2.75 = NoBoot/Unsucessful Windows Login
If I increase FSB above 210 = NoBoot/Unsucessful Windows Login
If I set FSB 230x10 = NoBoot/Unsucessful Windows Login
If I set timings to higher values e.g. 3-5-5-10 = NoBoot/Unsucessful Windows Login

Gen,
I found a few interesting things last night. 1st, I was having a problem with my CPU and Northbridge fans throttling down to about 1/3 speed after a few minutes of use. I disabled the Northbridge and CPU target fan settings in BIOS. You can find these options in the System Health menu of your BIOS. Also, if you have enabled the "Optimized" option in your BIOS, please disable it and set to "manual". The only option I've found to help is to select "Aggessive" timings for your memory. It doesn't change your speed in the BIOS for some reason, but it does do something else because my memory bandwidth is about 60 more with this setting enabled instead of disabled (3430 Int / 3430 Float in Sandra 04 versus 3493 / 3496 with the setting enabled. OF ALL THINGS MAKE SURE TO DISABLE THE "OPTIMIZED" function and leave it set at manual. Also, shoot me your current memory timings one more time. Are you using BIOS rev. 1.4? Let me know. Sorry it takes so long between posts, but I check from both work and home and it's usually several hours between getting chances to check for updated posts. I didn't have to reduce the HT setting on my overclock (I'm still running 4X), but I've read several posts where a setting of 3X will help if you're having problems o/cing. Also, on your memory timings make sure and set your DRAM to FSB ratio at Auto. This allows the memory to sync with your FSB speed. And, I don't remember if I mentioned it before, but be sure to set your AGP speed to 67 (66 is the default). At a setting at 67 it will positively lock your PCI and AGP clocks to 67 and 33 respectively, making sure that you aren't overstressing any of your PCI devices or you video card.

Weird problem with k8n neo fsr

hello!
i have weird problem with my K8N Neo-fsr and Athlon 64 2800+ socket 754, when i try to overclock i change in bios HT from 4 to 3 (for better stability), after restart nothing happen, my pc wont boot, also nothing on screen, so i must clear cmos for solve my problem and set to 4 i try several bioses from official to moded also pinochio`s and syar`s moded and allways the same issue is it problem with processor? or motherboard?
thanx for your help and sorry for my english

You should first get down cpu ratio, then get up cpu fsb and as you wanted set ht frequency from 4 to 3 and "save changes and exit" if it doesn't boot change you psu (at least antec 380 or tagan) or go fast to send back your mobo to reseller!!

Ms-7030 msi k8n neo fsr wont start

i made my system a follows.
amd 2800+ 64
msi k8n neo fsr
kingston 400mhz ddr value ram
6600gt inno3d agp
wd800 80gb hardrive
300 watts psu
brought the system home everything was working fine except for continous stuttering on hl2. also wid it came a smart cobra lite 56k modem from zoltrix, which was installed while makign the system, the modem had been deteced but when i tried to connect to the net, the status of the modem was found to be not connected, i removed the modem, restarted by switching the pci slots and everything but to no avail, put in an older zoltrix modem from my old pc, to no avail the modem just wudnt get recognized. the same modem though worked in my older p3 system. i took the systm to the place where they assembled it.as the system booted the modem got deteced, got winxpsp2 installed wid a fresh install. everything worked fine for a day untilt eh modem once again went back into death mode.took it back to the hardware shop i remember they were using an older keyboard on it too, well as they pressd the power button, the cpu fan and the gfx card fan moved a second and then stopped no booting
they replaced mobo then and there. even the same problem occured wid the new mobo, i left the system there to be tested but the thing i dont understand is they had assembled an tested the system by using the old keyboard and even then there was no problem. this time the system was working but as it reached the assemblers the cpu and gfxs card fan moved a sec as if power was fed for a second and dided changed psu's on one try on dry boot that is widout hd connected. the fans continously worked we removed power put into chasis and tried again to start but to no avail.
cud it really be the keyboard problem if that is solved then the problem left to deal wid is the modem wud the pci slots act the same way even on the newer board or chaning modems wud do any good, changed rams also that wudnt help booting either.
in both of the new mobos i didnt get the msi sticker that adds to my frustration.
posted this on another forum too, tha guy was havng problem using an older keyboard.

its really nice of u guys to reply so quickly its really appreciated. the thing is if the psu wasnt upto the job it wud have given away 3 days ago. but it didnt other psu tried also same problem. after a couple of hours ill be off to the hardware shop to see wat came out. the ram was reseated properly on all 3 slots.
plus the 300watts psu may not even be 300 cuz its locally made and stupid quality maybe lower to around 250, but the system worked fine all along, checked rail supplies on the mobo mopnitor and they seemed fine.will keep u guys updated.

K8N Neo FSR, possible BIOS bug: setting Vcore with Cool'n Quiet enabled broken?

Athlon 64 3400+, socket 754
K8N Neo FSR, Pheonix-Award BIOS V1,5
WinXP SP2
Having Cool'n Quiet disabled in BIOS setup, CPU core voltage adjustment
using 'Adjust CPU VID' below the Athlon 64 default 1,5V core voltage
works like a charm. Fine!
But with Cool'n Quiet enabled in BIOS setup (and WinXP), under load the
CPU core voltage raises to 1,5V in any case, independently of what I did
define in BIOS setup with 'Adjust CPU VID' (e.g. 1,4V). Software tools setting
Vcore like Core Center are not running.
So I can choose to either run a silent system in idle mode with Cool'n Quiet
enabled or under heavy CPU load with Cool'n Quiet disabled but Vcore
reduced :-( Am I missing something or does it rather look like a BIOS
bug?
Greetings, Falo

Quote from: Tiresmoke on 21-March-05, 00:19:19
As undervolting is not considured standard operating proceedures then how can it be considured a bug.
nor is overclocking but MSI mobo manual reads 'This motherboard is designed to support overclocking.'
So this mobo is designed for supporting at least one non standard operating procedure
Seriously, if BIOS offers a feature I suppose it to work as expected.
regards, Falo

K8N Neo-FSR doesn't boot

Hello everyone
I got my mobo (K8N Neo-FSR) more than 6 months ago, and worked without any problems until today.
First of all, I made a BIOS update from 1.7 to 1.9 using MSI Live Update. No problems to report, the computer worked after that for several hours. Then I turned off the PC. And the next time I wanted to turn it on, it didn't boot.
Here's my D-Bracket message :
This corresponds to "Initializing keyboard controller"
The problem is that apparently it has absolutely nothing to do with my keyboard, as I tired changing it.
Clearing CMOS didn't help.
Any ideas how I can fix this? Or should I contact the support?

Before you answered, I tried to check the RAM. As a matter of fact by removing one of 3 memory sticks the computer worked. Later I figured out that if I lower the RAM frequency from 200 MHz to 166, all 3 sticks work perfectly well.
Now the question is : WHY THE HELL DID THIS BIOS UPDATE MESS UP MY RAM??? Weird.

Who have v1.56 bios for K8N Neo FSR,give me please.thx

who have v1.56 bios for K8N Neo FSR,give me please.thx

Bios Collection. *Updated * 7025 1.B beta4 follow Syar's MSI Nvidia64 Bios Collection link.

Cannot find the Power Led connector for JFP1 to connect on K8N Neo FSR

Hi,
I have just bought the MSI K8N Neo FSR (MS 7030) to build a new computer with (amongst others) an Athlon 64 3000 processor and an Enermax 3051 case.
I can't even get a start: if I click on "Power" I just get a red light under the Power button for 1 second and nothing start.
This may be related with the fact that I did not find a "Power LED" connector for JFP1 (I have connected all the others connectors, including the Power LED one for JFP2).
Thank you in advance for your help.
Precisions:
At the beginning, I had forgotten to connect the ATX 12V power connector on JPW1.
After having done that without getting an improvement, I did a Clear CMOS (after having unplug the power cable).
Now the CPU fan begins to turn just when I switch the power on from back of the case (and not from the power button) and stops turning after five seconds.
Sometimes, I get an orange light during 1/2 second on the D-bracket LEDs.

Quote from: Dr Stu on 20-November-05, 04:36:29
evidently if he fixed it, the solution was posted elsewhere
so what have you tried so far? has this system ever worked?
post your PSU specs. try powering up board outside the case in case there is a short somewhere
I have tried a different power unit, different JFP1 configerations, removing and replacing MB battery, changing the jumper settings on JBAT1 to clear CMOS.
Everything is just dead, no power anywhere. I get the fan light inside the Power unit to light up for 1 second when i connect the power cable and thats it. Its a 450 Watt power unit so it should be plenty. Maybe i will try removing the board and starting it that way.
This system has never worked, i just built it.

K8N Neo-FSR ~= K8N Neo Platinum

May have to replace my motherboard - a K8N Neo Platinum. Have seen the K8N Neo-FSR, from its spec I assume it is the same, apart from only 2 rather than 3 Ram slots?
Thanks
Derek

Hello !
You can see both specifications here:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=572
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=571
Greetz

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