MOVED: K8N Neo2 Platinum, wich cpucooler?

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K8N Neo2 Platinum, wich cpucooler?

Quote from: hansh on 02-January-06, 18:43:45
Yes, it will fit and it is working very good
The only problem I could think of is that higher memory modules, like the Corsair Pro with leds) might not fit ... with "normal" modules there is no problem.
thanks!
now I'm a happy boy
I have "normal memory modules" so thats cool :p

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  • MOVED: K8N Neo2 Platinum resets overclock....

    This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
    K8N Neo2 Platinum resets overclock....

    Sorry about asking a stupid question.
    Quote from: the_cultie on 25-May-05, 17:50:12
    Are you using CoreCenter to overclock? What version is your BIOS? Post system specs.
    Quote from: tahuru on 25-May-05, 14:24:45
    the overclocking is done solely in bios.
    Anyway, there seems to be different problems relating to waking up from sleep, I know that Cool'n'Quiet would stop working when I would wake up from sleep. I'll try overclocking mine a bit and I'll get back to you.
    Also, check that the Save/Clear CMOS jumper is in the right position.

  • MOVED: K8N Neo2 Platinum overclocking problem

    This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
    K8N Neo2 Platinum overclocking problem

    Quote from: Sharp on 24-April-05, 06:04:48
    Hello,
    In the BIOS you must set the FSB:DRAM ratio to 1:1.
    Set the HTT (hypertransport Ratio to x4)
    Set the CPU ratio to x4 (just too see if it will work.)
    Set the FSB to 250Mhz
    Set the Vcore to 1.45v.
    Set the memory timings to SPD (or default values for DDR500)
    Set the memory voltage to 2.7v, 2.75v or 2.8v.
    Save and exit
    Then let it boot from the memtest bootdisk.
    Use memtest to see if it is ok, test for a long time, over 1 hour.
    http://www.memtest.org/download/1.55.1/memtest86+-1.55.1.floppy.zip
    Tight timings and high FSB is even better 
    I have the same problem I can go as high as fsb 219 without tweaking anything but the FSB. My system is about the same only my ram is ddr 400 so what should my mem volt and timg should be set to?

  • MOVED: K8N Neo2 Platinum, GFX recommendations please ?

    This topic has been moved to VGA products.
    https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=101532.0

    Hi,
    Can you start from a floppy disk, or at least get into BIOS (you probably will need a new install of Windows)?
    Try to start with a simple configuration: FDD, HDD, 1 stick of memory, video card - remove the rest for now ... reseat the components that you will use (starting with video card, then memory, finally CPU - check thermal grease) and check connections.
    Try with the board out of the case (shortcircuiting may occur when the board is not placed correctly, check the stand-offs under the board)
    Let us know how things are going!
    Hans

  • MOVED: K8N Neo2 Platinum - V1.B BIOS - Cannot enter setup

    This topic has been moved to BIOS.
    https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=92975.0

    hello Colin,
    What you are seeing when your screen goes black with the cursor flashing at the top is a legacy from the old DOS booting days. If you had an older motherboard that still offerred ISA slots, you could put in an old ISA video card and see what the system BIOS is trying to tel you. If I remember right it's message would be the same as your D bracket.
    Can't help you much except suggest that you keep asking MSI tech support for assitance. They should be able to seng you a new CMOS chip to insert in your board at no cost since you use their recommended procedures. They have done so for others. Just make sure you are not overly  aggressive when dealing with them.
    If this does not work  then see theis web site and  consider bying a new chip for your board. http://www.flashbios.org/catalog/index.php?cPath=22&language=en&osCsid=975ee1b8be41cdf61aa2feba67385bb2
    Good luck,

  • MOVED: K8N Neo2 Platinum Problem.

    This topic has been moved to AMD64 nVidia boards.
    https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=123471.0

    If you intall windows with only Hd Sata 200 Giga Seagate in Sata 3 connected
    you dont need to F6
    if you install XP With Both HD Connected then you need to F6 x 2 and load both Raid & Sata drivers.
    the error you are getting Quote
    Boot System Failed. Put Another disk and press Enter.
    seems to be because you havnt got a bootable disc in the CD
    This causes the boot process to halt
    Try changing Quote
    The priority to boot the devices is:
    Floppy
    Cd-Rom
    Hard Disk (don't have scsi or sata to choose in bios)
    to :-
    Floppy
    Hard Disk
    Cd-Rom
    and see if that works any differently
    hope this is  some help

  • MOVED: [Athlon64] Msi K8N Neo2 Platinum problems with Patriot Ram

    This topic has been moved to AMD64 nVidia Based board.
    [Athlon64] Msi K8N Neo2 Platinum problems with Patriot Ram

    First post, whoo hooo   
    So what version of BIOS are u running?  I recently installed the two newest versions 2.0 and 2.1, and they both give me problems.  With the latest (2.1) I'm getting the same error as you.  Returning back to previous BIOS fixed my problems.  Oh yeah, my RAM is Kingston Hyper-X, so i don't think thats your problem.
    Let me know if you fix it, thats why im here, .

  • MOVED: MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum (HELP!)

    This topic has been moved to AMD64 nVidia Based board.
    MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum (HELP!)

    Well we now know the motherboard... what about the rest of the components in the computer. When including specs on the powersupplies (post both the 400w and the 480w) include max amps for the 3.3v 5v and 12v rails. This info can be found on a sticker on the side of the PSU.
    Do you have the D-Bracket installed? If so where is it hanging at?
    Good Luck
    Jeremy

  • K8N Neo2 Platinum crashing/reboot in Windows....

    After some minor problems with my systems (and almost a year since i did it last) i decided to do a clean install of Windows.
    It all worked out well until i tried to deactivate the onboard Nvidia Gigabit LAN port. 1-2 seconds after hitting "deactivate" the computer reboots with no warning what so ever (like hitting the resetbutton). This happened EVERY time i did that. I had installed all the latest drivers for my GFX, Sound and MoBo. The MoBo drivers were the Nforce package from nvidia.com. I then downloaded the MoBo drivers from MSI's homepage and installed just the somewhat older drivers for the Nvidia Gigabit LAN. That fixed the problem with rebooting Windows.....
    .....sort of. Now the computer reboots at random (either idle or working on something like photoshop) and has done so 4 or 5 times in the last week since i reinstalled Windows. I have never had this problem before.....
    Could it be that i installed Nvidias own drivers instead of the MSI drivers ? I can't remember wich one i installed last time almost a year ago. I can't even remember if i ever updated them. If it ain't broke, why fix it ?
    I have another problem thats not MSi related but how the hell do you uninstall the Creative Gameport ? I have unhooked it from my Audigy 2 soundcard but it still shows up in the devicemanager as a working device. Last time i installed windows i never got it to work (a known fact that the gameport isn't supported under Win XP). The strange thing is that this time it installed properly and seemed to be running before i unhooked it.....
    If i don't get a working answer from this i will try reinstall Windows again....
    So...
    What drivers should i use on my Mobo ? Nvidia or MSI ?
    // John - Sweden
    AMD64 +3500
    K8N Neo2 Platinum
    Kingston Value Ram 2x1024
    Asus ATI XT800 P.E
    SoundBlaster Audigy 2 Platinum

    Quote from: trifix on 14-January-06, 05:28:33
    I have another problem thats not MSi related but how the hell do you uninstall the Creative Gameport ? I have unhooked it from my Audigy 2 soundcard but it still shows up in the devicemanager as a working device. Last time i installed windows i never got it to work (a known fact that the gameport isn't supported under Win XP). The strange thing is that this time it installed properly and seemed to be running before i unhooked it.....
    the gameport is on your soundcard, what you have unhooked is only the extension bracket (i guess). so as long as your soundcard is in the system, the gameport will show up in the device list. nothing wrong with that one. instead of uninstalling it, just disable it from the device list.
    i like to use mobo manufacturer's driver over the chipset maker because technically, MSI will release the drivers after they do some testing with them.

  • K8N-Neo2 Platinum pauses for 25 sec at boot, nvatabus.sys the problem?

    All,
    After POSTing normally and starting to load Windows XP, my system halts at the Windows XP splash screen for about 25 seconds. Nothing happens, no disk activity or anything, the system just sits there.
    I used Microsoft's Bootvis utility to see what was happening. It turns out that the nvatabus.sys driver consumes 100% CPU at boot for 25 seconds then the system continues to boot normally. Does anyone else see anything like this?
    I am running the latest nForce drivers from MSI. The driver in question:
    NVIDIA nForce3 Serial ATA Controller 2.6
    Driver Date 6/3/2004
    c:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\nvatabus.sys 5.10.2600.0446
    Windows XP SP1
    I have a RAID1 of two 160 GB SATA drives. The mirror is healthy and working fine.
    After booting the system is rock-solid stable, no problems there. It's just this unexplained pause at boot. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this?

    ok check it out guy's this thing drove me insane all night last night and most of today. I was ready to return everything and give up. But alas all is not lost. Here is the rundown on what i just did.
    My Equipment:
    Athlon 64 3800+(w/ stock fan)
    MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum Socket 939
    2X512 Corsair TWINX1024-3200XLPRO ( with the cool led's )
    2 SATA HD (1 Maxtor Diamond10 300 GB w/ 16mb cache, 1 Segate 160GB w/8mb cache)
    PP&C 425 ATX Deluxe
    Radeon 9700 Pro ( cat 4.8 )
    Audigy2 ZS
    Sony Floppy
    Sony 8x52x52x32 DVD Rewrite
    I have been reading and reading just like all you guy's. On a few websites i would pick up bits and pieces on what to try. Heres what i did. Upon Boot up i entered the bios. I then went to Cell Soft and adjusted my timings for my memory. I was at 2.5 not 2.75. I then set my speed down to 166. Exited and restarted. Big mistake everything ri=uns terrible slow and my expensive DDR 400 memory was showing up correctly at 333. Rebooted again entered the bios. reset my speed to 400. Then set the Overclock feature to manual. Set my timings at 2,2,5,2 200 and 2.75 volts. After saving settings and exiting I then turned off the computer. As per some other suggestions I moved my Audigy2 to the bottom most pci slot the one above the orange slot. I moved my memory to slots 2 and 4. I moved my SATA to slots 3 and 4. I rebooted went into the bios again and setup all my voltages. CPU was Auto, AGP was max yellow setting. Memory still at 2.75. I disabled the onboard serial and parrallel ports. Rebooted
    Fearing the worst,
    5 seconds, 10 seconds, windows screen loging prompt. There was nothing wrong at all. It rebooted effortlessly. It re found my Audigy card and wanted driver but that was it. I am going to reboot a few more times and then run sisandra to test. I hope some of this will help you. I post in a few after some of those reboots.

  • Reboot problem with MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum and 250 GB SATA HDD

    I'm having a "reboot" problem with my MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum. After turning my system on it will run without any problems, until I reboot. After a reboot it will always hang after the initial windows-bootscreen. The HDD-light will remain on. If, instead of going into Windows XP SP2, I try to enter the BIOS after a reboot (DEL) the system will also hang (blank screen with blinking cursor).
    It started doing this after I installed the Maxtor 250 GB SATA disk. Before, I didn't have problems rebooting. If I disconnect the Maxtor drive I can reboot and enter BIOS and Windows each and every time. Reconnecting the Maxtor 250 GB SATA drive will return the reboot problem. I always have to use the power swith to get a working system again. It's not enough to do a hard reset (this has the same effect as rebooting).
    Here are the details of my system:
    MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum (BIOS 1.B)
    Athlon 64 3200+ (Winchester, 2 Ghz, 512 KB cache, stepping DH-D0)
    2 x Kingston KVR400X64C25/512, 512 MB, DDR, PC3200 (2,5-3-3-8 T1)
    Asus Radeon AX800 Pro (256 MB)
    PSU Antec Sonata 380W
    HDD Maxtor 80Gb ATA (6Y080P0, Pri Master)
    HDD Seagate 250Gb SATA (ST3200822AS)
    HDD Maxtor 250Gb SATA (6V250F0 - jumpered in SATA150 mode, the mobo wouldn't work with the drive in SATA300-mode)
    Aopen COM5232/AAH Pro CD-Writer ATA (Sec Master)
    BenQ DW1640 DVD-Writer ATA (Sec Slave)
    P.S. The NVidia IDE-drivers are NOT installed. System is not overclocked.

    Thank you for all the replies. Upgrading to the latest Nvidia IDE-drivers did not fix my problem. Moving to other SATA-ports did not help either. Upgrading the mobo's BIOS is not really an option (I'm using one version before the most recent and there isn't anything in the fixlist of the latest BIOS).
    Now I've contacted Maxtor for (hopefully) a new firmware.
    Quote from: rogueUK on 31-July-06, 16:55:42
    insego please use the SEARCH BUTTON
    I did use the search function to find other people with similar problems. The reason I started a topic of my own was because of the text you get while joining:
    Quote
    Do not hijack another persons topic. If you have a similar problem, start your own thread anyway.
    Maybe in retrospect I should first have tried the solutions in other topics.

  • RESOLVED - K8N Neo2 Platinum problem with large Seagate disk

    Hi All,
    I've been running this system for 4 years and I'm very happy with it. But I've run into a problem:
    I'm trying to exchange my 120 GB Seagate Barracuda systemdisk with a 500 GB Barracuda and I can't install XP with SP2.
    First I tried to clone the old HD with Norton Ghost and Acronis True Image. The cloning looked fine but after taking the old HD out and moving the new one to P-ATA 1 as Primary Master I get an "error - no operating system found". I also tried a fresh install from CD. After the CD reboots the system I get the same error.
    The HD is present in BIOS with the right parameters and all is looking well - but still no go.
    I've fiddled around in BIOS (vers. 1.3) with the different settings (LBA, Large, Auto, Csh.) The last 2 options gives the "no operating system" error and the first 2 gives a "disk error" although Seagate says that I should change settings to "LBA".
    I only have the new HD in the machine. I also tried fixboot and fixmbr. I can see all the installed files when I put it in as a slave.
    So my question is:
    Does the K8N Neo2 Platinum have a problem with large hd's as system disk?
    Or is this a Seagate or Windows problem ?
    Any help is much appreciated!
    Mads

    Actually that was the first thing I did just to see if the drive worked :-) - except that I had it as master on the second ide cable. It formats like it should and all partitions report "healthy". The only difference is that the new drives c-partition is set as active (can't find a way to change it back)  - while the old one is set as system. Could this make a difference ?
    Since neither cloning nor a fresh install works I think the problem is something else. Maybe I should try Seatools and see if that makes any difference.
    Thank's all for help so far! - Other suggestions ?

  • K8N Neo2 Platinum 54G BIOS problem

    I recently bought a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum-54G mainboard with W7025NMS v1.3  092204 revision of BIOS.
    AMD Athlon64 3000+ 939 is installed on the mainboard, with 2x512 GEIL PC3200 memory modules in dual channel configuration working on default frequency of 200MHz. CPU is recognized correctly as AMD Athlon64 3000+ on startup.
    Mainboard’s BIOS seems to be corrupted. In Cell Menu options, in the upper left part of the screen (printed blue) are processor and DDR working timings:
    Current CPU Clock 1810MHZ, Current DDR Clock 200MHz.
    Aggressive Timings and Dynamic Overclocking values are [Disabled] (processor working on its defaulf settings); Spread Spectrum is [Disabled] while all DRAM Configuration settings are set to [Auto].
    While entering HT frequency settings, (locked to [x5])  there are no other values to select – empty, and there is no way to leave it (ESC doesn’t help, the only thing possible to do is to reset the computer by pressing the Reset button on the chassis), but  the HT frequency settings were enabled when I loaded Fail-Safe settings, offering [1x], [1.5x], [2x], [2.5x], [3x], [4x], [5x].
    Adjust CPU Ratio settings offer only [StartUp], [x4]~[x9] values, but as I understood by reading the manual there should be [StartUp], [x4]~[x20].
    CPU Voltage, Memory Voltage and AGP Voltage are set to default.
    CPU-Z, as well as SiSoft Sandra 2004 and SiSoft Sandra 2005 and MSI CORE CELL show that processor works at a core speed ~1005MHz, showing multiplier locked on x5.0 and HTT locked at ~200MHz, while the voltage is ~1.05V!
    I downloaded the latest BIOS revision (v1.4), did the BIOS flash, but the problem remains!
    Anybody, help!

    Quote
    HT frequency
    is a known fault in bios & is easily sorted Bas HT Bios Error
    Quote
    CPU Ratio settings
    AMD64 CPOU's have a lock on CPU ratios which varies according to the specification of the chip. therefore the multiplier available in your bios stops at the max multiplier allowed by amd for your cpu.
    As an example i'm running a 3200 754 which has a maximum muliplier of 11 so that is the max i see in bios.
    this guide may help Bios Guide

  • K8N NEO2 Platinum rebooting

    Hi all,just got myself a 64bit MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum board & a 3200+,am happy with it but a couple of days ago i got a blue screen with a long message that i didnt have time to read before the pc rebooted,after the reboot i checked the event viewer log file in administrative tools/control panel but couldnt narrow it down as my particular error code wasnt among the possible causes.
    Among some of the possible causes were incorrectly installed USB drivers or the BIOS,i downloaded the latest BIOS update before this problem started(V1.40) which i am using now,i used the MSI live update software to flash it which i did in windows mode.Sorry for prattling on!well it did it again tonight and i managed to read a bit of the writing on the blue screen which mentioned flashing the bios to the latest version.I was wondering if anyone else is having the same problem and if so could you please advise me? Thanks for your patience and any help Heres my sys specs:
        Model:                         AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
        Speed:                         2.01GHz
        Model Number:                  3200 (estimated)
        Performance Rating:            PR3015 (estimated)
        Type:                          Standard
        L2 On-board Cache:             512kB ECC Synchronous Write-Back (16-way, 64
                                       byte line size)
        Bus(es):                       ISA AGP PCI USB FireWire/1394
        MP Support:                    1 CPU(s)
        MP APIC:                       No
        System BIOS:                   Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG
        Mainboard:                     MS-7025
        Total Memory:                  1023MB DDR-SDRAM
        Model:                         Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) ???
                                       (00E1)
        Front Side Bus Speed:          1x 201MHz (201MHz data rate)
        Model:                         Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 /
                                       Opteron HyperTransport Technology
                                       Configuration
        Front Side Bus Speed:          1x 201MHz (201MHz data rate)
        Total Memory:                  2048MB DDR-SDRAM
        Memory Bus Speed:              2x 201MHz (402MHz data rate)
        Monitor/Panel:                 CTX EX950F series
        Adapter:                       RADEON X800 Series  
        Adapter:                       RADEON X800 Series Secondary
        Removable Drive:               Floppy disk drive
        Hard Disk:                     Maxtor 6Y080L0
        CD-ROM/DVD:                    HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4081B (CD 32X Rd, 24X Wr)
                                       (DVD 4X Rd, 3X Wr)
        CD-ROM/DVD:                    MSI CD-RW CR52 (CD 40X Rd, 52X Wr)
        CD-ROM/DVD:                    AXV CD/DVD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device (CD 32X Rd)
                                       (DVD 4X Rd)
        1.44MB 3.5" (A:):              N/A
        Hard drive (C:):               76.3GB (51.9GB, 68% Free) (NTFS)
        CD-ROM/DVD (D:):               N/A
        CD-ROM/DVD (E:):               N/A
        CD-ROM/DVD (F:):               N/A
        Serial/Parallel Port(s):       1 COM / 1 LPT
        USB Controller/Hub:            Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
        USB Controller/Hub:            Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
        USB Controller/Hub:            Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
        USB Controller/Hub:            USB Root Hub
        USB Controller/Hub:            USB Root Hub
        USB Controller/Hub:            USB Root Hub
        FireWire/1394 Controller/Hub:  VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
        Keyboard:                      Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/
                                       2 Keyboard
        Mouse:                         PS/2 Compatible Mouse
        Device:                        Creative SB Live! series
        Device:                        Creative Game Port
        Model:                         EPSON Stylus CX3200
        Windows System:                Microsoft Windows XP/2002 Home (Win32 x86)
                                       5.01.2600 (Service Pack 2)
        Network Drivers Enabled:       Yes
        Warning 100:                   Large memory sizes should be made of
                                       Registered/Buffered memory.
        Tip 101:                       Large memory sizes should be made of ECC/
                                       Parity memory.
    >
    >
        Device Type:                   VGA Video Adapter
        Device ID:                     bus 1, device 0, function 0
        Windows Device Name:           RADEON X800 Series  
        OEM Device Name:               ATI Technologies ??? (4A49)
        OEM Hardware ID:               FUN_0, VEN_1002, DEV_4A49, REV_00
        Device Name:                   PC Partner Ltd ??? (4A49)
        Product ID:                    VEN_174B, DEV_0D42
        Revision:                      A / 1 (0)
        Version:                       3.00
        Command Queue Length:          256
        Fast-Writes Support:           Yes
        Over 4GB Addressing Support:   No
        Isochronous Mode Support:      No
        Addressing Support:            32-bit
        Data Transfer Modes Support:   4x 8x

    My K8N Neo Platinum [754] did not include a NB fan. But this usually means the overall size of the heatsink is larger. If you remove the fan from yours, the size of the heatsink will not be big enough to cool your NB. As for temps, I've never seen my NB get hotter than 45'C. Note that the core on my NB should be slightly different than yours.
    You could try to use the BIOS fan control for the NB. If set correctly, it should reduce some noise.

  • Need help with k8n neo2 platinum

    I've just installed a new k8n neo2 platinum s939 board with a venice core 3200+ cpu the htt is 2000 and multiplier 10x.
    I've gone to the core cell menu and set the htt to 4x (seemed to be this at default) and the max mem clock at 166 (more about this in a moment), the fsb will go quite easily up to 250mhz even 255mhz, but when I try 260 Mhz the machine when it reboots shows the initial slash screen but then goes to a blank screen with the cursor flashing in the top left hand corner, I can't even get back into the bios setup without clearing the cmos.
    The odd thing is that the adjust cpu vid is showing a voltage of 1.50 and not 1.40 or startup.
    Anyway with the fsb at 250mhz the bios screen is showing the Current ddr clock at 208 mhz ( not the max memclock setting of 166) the memory in the motherboard ( a crucial 512meg ddr333 single stick) seems to perform OK according to memtest which shows no errors after 2 cycles.
    Any attempt to get to 260mhz fsb appears to fail even by upping the cpu vid to 1.525v unless i adjust the cpu voltage setting which by default is set to (by cpu vid) to +3.3%. Doing this enables me to get to fsb 260mhz but the memtest fails ( even when I set the max memclock to 133, which shows my current ddr speed at 174mhz, well below the 208mhz which appeared stable with the fsb at 250mhz?)
    So firstly why are there two cpu voltage settings in the bios when my manual only shows 1 (there is no mention of this cpu vid setting?
    How is it that my memory is stable at 208mhz with a fsb of 255mhz but unstable at 174mhz with the fsb set at 260mhz?
    Why does the memory clock lock not appear to be working, the memory should be fixed at 166mhz but infact increases with fsb?
    I have bios revision 1.5.
    Please help as I am not familiar with the bios settings for this nforce 3 chipset, they seem rather odd to me. I'm sure my venice core 3200+ cpu can get beyond 250mhz fsb, I have another pc with a venice core 3000+ cpu which runs quite happily at 270mhz fsb.
    PS I've tried reducing the htt to 3x but the same thing happens.

    OK further feed back, I can get to over 260mhz fsb but the system is not stable the memory runs OK with mem test but I have problems with prime95.
    I had to up the cpu core voltage to 1.53v to get to 260mhz using the cpu voltage setting in the bios and setting a 5% increase. increasing the cpu vid setting to 1.55v did not seem to do anything at all the core voltage was still at 1.43v.
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