MOVED: MSI 880gm-e43 ddr3 1600 support
This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=145131.0
I though I was able to do it. There was a simple option, which allowed 1600MHz with no issues.
But it turns out that mode comes with increasing DRAM timers. Is there a way to increase the clock speed, while keeping the timers fixed?
(I compared Windows Experience Index scores, it performs exactly the same in both those configurations).
There is this page, but it has no documentation, and I have no idea how to set it up:
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MSI 880gm-e43 ddr3 1600 support
I recently purchased this motherboard (msi 880gm-e43), and Kingston HyperX 4GB KHX1600C9AD3K2/4G ram kit. However while both are supposed to support DDR3 1600MHz, I only get 1333 with the default configuration.
Do I need to change overclocking settings to get these working? If so how can I do that?
(Btw, SPD shows up to 1333 only, while MSI's control panel applications also has another entry for XMP-1600, which I do not exactly know how it differs).I though I was able to do it. There was a simple option, which allowed 1600MHz with no issues.
But it turns out that mode comes with increasing DRAM timers. Is there a way to increase the clock speed, while keeping the timers fixed?
(I compared Windows Experience Index scores, it performs exactly the same in both those configurations).
There is this page, but it has no documentation, and I have no idea how to set it up: -
MOVED: msi 880GM-E43 can't overclock my ram
This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=144700.0Got the same probs as you mate. Can't push my 3000+ much higher than 208mhz FSB either, it just resets and sometimes throw up errors when i try.
My specs are as follows;
AMD64 3000+ (Stock cooler)
2x512 Geil Value pc3200 RAM
K8N NEo Platinum
2x 80gig Maxtor SATA (RAID 0)
ATI 9800pro
Temp was really high (idle 49, load 59!) when i first got it but after changing to the 1.4 bios i get idle 36, load 45 now.
Strangely my system is not set at 200mhz FSB by default. When i try to go to default FSB or try 200Mhz FSB it sets to 201Mhz instead so my system is at 2010Mhz, I cant get 200Mhz bus! At this setting its really 'jumpy' when playing games i get little judders/pauses. When i overclock to 205mhz+ then it runs smooth as anything, it's really strange.
Well i've tried AGP at 67 and 68 no luck, moved SATA over to the 3/4 Ports, relaxed memory timings, upped voltage on both ram and CPU, removed drives, etc no luck at all :(
Temps are well within limits (Apart from this the system runs rock solid, primes at full load for 9+ hours overnight easy at 2080Mhz with temps reaching 49C, just absolutely no luck in overclocking any further.
I've decided to use this setup for a HTPC instead and build another with a DFI board and hopefully fare better next time.
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MSI 770-C45 DDR3 1600 Problems
Hi people,
Sorry if this is a common problem but did look through the forum but couldnt quite find a problem like mine.
I have followed custom pc computer build for a gaming rig and have had hang ups randomly which allow me to do nothing but switch off system.
To cut a long story short i have tried everything to fix this but now it seems to be running ok as i have changed settings for ram to 9-9-9-24 and timing to 2T.
I have also set the volts up to 1.77 (or nearby) but i am wondering if this is correct thing to do. I am stress testing it now with prime95 and hoping these setting are correct.
M/B=msi 770-c45
Mem=corsair dominator ddr3 1600 (2 sticks in same colour port which is blue)
Proc=AMD athlon II 2 proIf the system is stable, then dont change anything.
An AMD-cpu does NOT support 1600MHz -- that is, the memory controller can handle 1066MHz or so. If you set the memory frequency higher, then you are overclocking the system which may result in freezing or other system problems. By losening timings a bit (9-9-9-24 2T) you solved it. Now, keep on testing. If the lot stays stable, then don't change anything else.
Also, use CPU-Z to see what timings/frequency-combinations your memory can handle. -
Msi 880GM-E43 can't overclock my ram
My Computer Spec:
880GM-E43 BIOS 2.11, Sempron 140/Sempron 145(Unlock)/Athlon X2 5200(Unlock), Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
Super Talent WB160UB2G8 (Default: 1600MHz CL8-8-8-24-36 1T)*
Corsair HX850W +12V~70A, +5V~25A, +3.3V~25A
Galaxy GTS250 1GB
WD Caviar Blue WD6400AAKS 640GB 16 MB cache SATA 2.0
ASUS DVD/CD R-W
* This ram cannot find on SuperTalent offical webpage.
Bios show "cmos checksum bad" when I overclock my Ram(1600MHz CL8-8-8-24-36 1T change to 1600MHz CL7-8-8-24-36 1T or 1600MHz CL7-8-7-24-36 1T etc.)
This ram maybe use ELPIDA BDBG ram chips(find from internet)Got the same probs as you mate. Can't push my 3000+ much higher than 208mhz FSB either, it just resets and sometimes throw up errors when i try.
My specs are as follows;
AMD64 3000+ (Stock cooler)
2x512 Geil Value pc3200 RAM
K8N NEo Platinum
2x 80gig Maxtor SATA (RAID 0)
ATI 9800pro
Temp was really high (idle 49, load 59!) when i first got it but after changing to the 1.4 bios i get idle 36, load 45 now.
Strangely my system is not set at 200mhz FSB by default. When i try to go to default FSB or try 200Mhz FSB it sets to 201Mhz instead so my system is at 2010Mhz, I cant get 200Mhz bus! At this setting its really 'jumpy' when playing games i get little judders/pauses. When i overclock to 205mhz+ then it runs smooth as anything, it's really strange.
Well i've tried AGP at 67 and 68 no luck, moved SATA over to the 3/4 Ports, relaxed memory timings, upped voltage on both ram and CPU, removed drives, etc no luck at all :(
Temps are well within limits (Apart from this the system runs rock solid, primes at full load for 9+ hours overnight easy at 2080Mhz with temps reaching 49C, just absolutely no luck in overclocking any further.
I've decided to use this setup for a HTPC instead and build another with a DFI board and hopefully fare better next time.
H.Hoang -
MSI A75MA-P35 DDR3-1866 support?
Hi,
I'm interested in an A75MA-P35. Unfortunately, the website and manual say it only supports DDR3-1600 whereas the "little brother" (A55MA-P35) and basicly all other mainboards with FM1 support DDR3-1866.
Is this a mistake or does the A75MA-P35 really not support DDR3-1866?
Thanks in advance!Quote from: Mark on 01-October-11, 06:20:53
The memory controller is built into the CPU so that determines what speed RAM is supported.
Now that you mention it, it's pretty obvious. Guess I'm getting too old for this stuff. -
MOVED: MSI K8T Neo - does it support ddr2 modules?
This topic has been moved to AMD64 ATI/SiS/VIA based board.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=109504.0Quote from: Zoolisha on 03-July-07, 06:05:07
tnx :(
its a CPU problem not a mobo. don't be disappointed from the board. if the CPU can work with DDR2 the board will have those DIMM slots.
i mean if you got board with DDR2 memory support and also have DDR2 memory sticks, you have to change CPU as well. -
I built this system about 6 months ago. 880-GM-E43, AMD Phenom II 1055T Hex core. Was running fine and then in the middle of working just powered off. At first I thought power Supply so tested that, it's OK. I can hook everything up and power is fine, except when I plug the 4-Wire CPU power to the MB, It will not power on then. Did my CPU Fry?? If so, what would be a good replacement? I don't need the Hex Core, it was just bundled in with the "Put together yourself" kit from Newegg.
Quote from: georgetaylor on 14-February-12, 05:11:53
I built this system about 6 months ago. 880-GM-E43, AMD Phenom II 1055T Hex core. Was running fine and then in the middle of working just powered off. At first I thought power Supply so tested that, it's OK. I can hook everything up and power is fine, except when I plug the 4-Wire CPU power to the MB, It will not power on then. Did my CPU Fry?? If so, what would be a good replacement? I don't need the Hex Core, it was just bundled in with the "Put together yourself" kit from Newegg.
Guess I didn't give enough info, so here is more:
Rosewill R519 Black Computer case with 500 Watt Power Supply
MSI 880GM-E43 AM3 AMD 880G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Phenom II 1055T Thuban 2.8GHZ Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor
4GB (2x2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1600 Dual Channel Memory
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA Drive
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Hey
I have been having a problem with a new build of an 880gm-e43/athlon II 640 quad core.
I haven't been able to get the temps or voltages to read correctly in any monitoring software. Bios temps have read 24-28c, 12v volts 12.28, while software in vista temps have been reading 6c-18c and 12v has been reading 4-5 volts. I have tried amd overdrive, hwmonitor, speedfan, core temp, etc all saying the same thing. I am running;
msi 880gm-e43
athlon 640 x4
corsair 520 watt ps
wd 250 gb drive
Win Vista 32
Kingston DDR3 1333 ram, 2gb
I have turned off acc, green power, amd cool and quiet, changed a large number of settings, but this still remains. I have updated to cat 10.10, added the sb drivers, and I have also updated the bios from v 2.9 to v 2.a via live update, reset all bios settings to optimized, then reset to turning off acc, green power, but have cool and quiet on again. I also have the cpu fan set to 25% now, and sys fan to 50%.
I am at a loss as to the error on temps. Any help would be appreciated
Thanks
PS: Also one question as to Bios updates. I didn't see any listed for manual download under 880gm-e43, it just gave the link for live update. Other motherboards have bios listed for them for manual download. just wondering....well, been looking elsewhere for the problem
Fredrik said
Vista can not handle other companies' auto-starting programs (very well). That end is where I believe you should look for solutions.
So what you are saying is that Vista is the reason why I can't get anything to monitor accurately? Or is it that having the progs autostart is the problem? Because I have vista running on an older am2 msi board and reading temps/volts/etc properly. I am manually starting the programs after boot and log in and the drivers associated with them seem to be loaded when necessary. So the OS in and of itself doesn't seem to be the issue exactly. It just seems as if something isn't communicating the info properly to the utilities that should be reading it, or they are reading the info given incorrectly. I guess what is puzzling is that there aren't any other comments by other 880gm-e43 owners with this problem so I wondered if it was something particular to my set up, or is this something that will be solved in future updates of software, or is it something else... -
MSI P55-GD80 - G. Skill Ripjaws 2x2GB DDR3 1600 runs at 1333 MHz only
I just bought my Core i5 setup yesterday. I'm satisfied with its performance.
The problem is that I can only run my G. Skill Ripjaws 2x2GB DDR3 1600 at 1333 MHz. I checked the Cell Menu. The highest DRAM ratio is 5. Setting it at 5 makes it run at 1333 MHz only
I have read the manual of my MSI P55-GD80. It states that it supports DDR3 1600 MHz
How can I run my DDR3 memory at 1600 MHz? BIOS update?
My current BIOS version is 1.4Quote from: cdcellular on 27-October-09, 17:43:29
I lowered my muliplier to 13 (200x13) to acheive 2.6ghz on the processor, but, at this setting now the processor is running 10-15c hotter then at the 133x20 default setting, and yes im using aftermarket cooling. Why the extra heat at the same clock frequency?
You must set the CPU and VTT Voltage lower.
Example for 2600Mhz(200x13) CPU-Mhz and very low temperatures ->
In CellMenue:
- Load Optimized defaults
- First u must set LoadlineCalibration in Bios to disabled ! ... in the next bios generations it calls Vdroopcontrol(set to LowVdroopcontrol)
- Turbo disabled
- Try VTT from 1,2V to 1,351 V- For higher BCLK(200..stock is 133) u need higher VTT-VOLTAGE as stock (lower VTT lower temps for the memory controler) ..use later the lowest possible VTT-VOLTAGE when u make any stability tests
- BLCK 200 x CPU Multiplier 13 = about CPU 2600Mhz ...RAM u can use now @ 2000Mhz with memory multiplier 5
- Now set the lowest possible CPU-Voltage in bios for stable usage with your own CPU! Thats the trick.Undervolting the CPU for lower temps an power consumption as stock !
- Try 1V to 1,024V CPU Voltage in bios for 2,6Ghz(good choice for the newest I5/7 ). Howto-> https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=127944.0
Use programs like Linx 0.6.4 to test the stability of your Sys. Howto and download--> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=201670
Now u see temps are down (normal usage SYS). Lower CPU-VCore and VTT lower temps. Higher CPU-VCore and VTT higher temps.
My CPU:
My I5-750 runs with 1,012V CPU-Voltage bios setting @ 2,8Ghz on P55-GD80. Stock the CPU has 1,264V VCore.
Now I have 25-30watts less vs stock(full LOAD SYS) and very,very low temps - IDLE and LOAD usage .
Be sure that the 4 first GreenPower settings are @ AUTO. -
MSI H67MA-E35-B3 not supporting ddr3 1333
Hi,
I recently purchased MSI H67MA-E35-B3 and Intel Pentium G620 processor with Corsair xms3 2x2gb ram kit CMX4GX3M2A1600C9
Ram is not detected as 1333, but it defaults to 1066 in auto settings, if I manually change speed to 1333, pc wont boot and I have to clear cmos.
Enabling XMP in bios displays adjusted dram speed as 1600, but saving and rebooting speed sets back speed to 1066.
I want to run ram at default 1333 speed at least if the board cpu doesnt support 1600.
Also there is some issue with Ps/2 keyboard, its not detected by windows after shutting down pc, some reboots and plugging unplugging keyboards makes it work.Quote
Ram is not detected as 1333, but it defaults to 1066 in auto settings
Please take a screenshot of the CPU-Z "SPD" view, upload it somewhere and include the link to the image here for comparison.
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I want to run ram at default 1333 speed at least if the board cpu doesnt support 1600.
Actually, according to Intel specifications, native memory support of this processor is restricted to DDR3-1066:
http://ark.intel.com/products/53480
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Memory Types DDR3-1066
No word about DDR3-1333 support.
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if I manually change speed to 1333, pc wont boot and I have to clear cmos.
Enabling XMP in bios displays adjusted dram speed as 1600, but saving and rebooting speed sets back speed to 1066.
I want to run ram at default 1333 speed at least if the board cpu doesnt support 1600.
Also there is some issue with Ps/2 keyboard, its not detected by windows after shutting down pc, some reboots and plugging unplugging keyboards makes it work.
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Can Optiplex 780 support DDR3-1600?
I have an old Optiplx 780 (late 2009). I know the manual says it only supports 1066 and 1333, but I remember seeing somewhere that with BIOS upgrade it can support DDR3-1600. Is this true? The reason I am asking is that it is easier to find a cheap DDR3-1600. Thanks for any information!
There is no support for DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) and the bus will never run at that speed.
There is no overclocking and the FSB is determined by the cpu and chipset so no and no. You cannot use Registered Ram and faster ram will not run faster it will clock down to 1066 or slower depending on the cpu. Furthermore 4 rank high density ram does not and will not work. Max dimm size is 4 gigs and max ram is 16 gigs aka 4 x 4 gig low density 2 rank ram. Buffered, Registered, ECC ram is not possible nor is 32 gigs of ram total. So while DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) will work it will not run faster with a slower FSB cpu. I recall that when I put in a 1333mhz fsb cpu the ram still ran at 1066 mhz.
Dell OptiPlex 780 MT Desktop Computer- Intel Core 2 Duo E7600 with VT (3.06GHz, 3M, 1066MHz FSB) for example.
Regulatory Model (Mini-Tower): DCSM or DCSM1F
Regulatory Model (Desktop): DCNE or DCNE1F
Regulatory Model (Small Form Factor): DCCY or DCCY1F
Regulatory Model (Ultra Small Form Factor): Regulatory Model D01U / Regulatory Type D01U001
Max bus speed and Ram Speed for the chipset. Aka 1066 is max regardless of the cpu FSB. Note the RAM TYPES in the INTEL spec for the chipset.
http://ark.intel.com/products/36527/Intel-82Q45-Graphics-and-Memory-Controller-Hub
Max Data Bus Speed 1333 MHz
Chipset Type Intel Q45 Express
Max Memory Size
16 GB
Memory Types
DDR3 800/1066, DDR2 667/800
Max # of Memory Channels
2
Max Memory Bandwidth
8.5 GB/s
Physical Address Extensions
36-bit
ECC Memory Supported
No -
880GM-E43 - What is the "real" maximum memory for this mobo?
Hi,
I have a system that I built awhile ago that uses the 880GM-E43 mobo. At the time that I built this system, everything that I found indicated that the max memory was 16GB (4 x 4GB), which is what I have installed now.
I've been wanting to have more memory (lots of VMware guests), so I've been starting to look at building a new system, which I thought would have required a different mobo that supports 32GB (4 x 8GB) and a new set of 8GB memory sticks.
While I was researching that, I found this:
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/880GM-E43.html
and under the Specifications tab, it says:
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DDR3 Memory DDR3 800/1066/1333/1600*(OC)
DDR2 Memory N/A
Memory Channel Dual
DIMM Slots 4
Max Memory (GB) 32
Everywhere else, other than the MSI website itself, still seems to say "16GB" max.
Does anyone know which maximum is correct? Is it 16GB, or is it 32GB?
Please advise.
Thanks,
JimQuote from: Bas on 02-January-12, 23:48:42
It's only limited to what the CPU can handle, and that is far more then you can buy at this time
However, MSI only tested at the time of production of the board.
So if you use bigger modules you have to test yourself if it works with your CPU, the board got nothing to do with it.
What ever you do, don't mix sizes and brands, often goes wrong.
Bas,
Not doubting what you said, but I hope that's the case. Will post back as soon as it gets in and I get a chance to test it. As you suggested, I'll initially remove the 4x4GB sticks, and replace them with the new 2x8GB sticks, and see how that works. If it that works, I'll put in the additional 2x4GB (understood what you said, but this is interim).
Then, if that works, I can wait for maybe prices to drop to get an additional 2x8GB kit, but going to 24GB will help a lot with the work that I'm doing (mostly Vmware guests).
Jim -
This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Undervolting & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=156770.0This is a user-to-user forum, not MSI Technical Support. We don't make BIOS Fixes here, sorry.
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This mobo supports 2133Mhz
Not quite right. The memory controller is inside the processor, not the mainboard. According to Intel specifications, the native supported maximum is DDR3-1333. Everything above that has to be considered overclocking and therefore not necessarely stable.
I am moving this thread to the overclocking section of this forum for further discussion.
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My new PC works in default state/1333Mhz but not in 2133Mhz. Any tips?
Go lower for testing: try DDR3-1600, DDR3-1866 etc, memory voltage 1.65V, command rate = 2T, play around with the other timings to find out what works and what not.
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flashed to latest official BIOS 23.6
FYI: Latest official release is slightly newer: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=151148.msg1151874#msg1151874 -
MOVED: MSI 990FX-GD80 memory issues
This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Undervolting & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=151646.0op, mods, admins, MSI staff - you can view the issue by:
1) flash bios .1 off the web site and clear cmos for good behaviour.
2) put sticks in for dual channel sockets.
3) select ddr3-1600, save and exit.
4) memtest (latest one) from a boot disk.
5) test reports (and so will windows) 64bit DC with a stick reserved and you will get through with no errors. windows will also boot but your 2nd stick won't be available.
6) reboot.
7) change memory to unganged for 128bit SC and the board will fail to post with a code of 54.
8) clear cmos back to defaults to get back in.
9) flash *any* other bios *after* version .1 (either .2 off the site - or one of the b3x betas from places), keep the sticks in the same sockets and run memtest again at 1600. you will find it hangs the *second* it tries to access the 2nd stick and if you can get into windows - you will find that you are in 64bit SC mode (even though you haven't touched the sticks) and still 1 stick will be reserved.
MSI STAFF, MODS, WHOEVER... on certain chips... this board doesn't use/initialise/work with/switch on half of the IMC. it's not an OC issue. it's not a 1600 issue. it's not a XMP issue. it's having a rubbish UEFI bios that was written by drunken chimpanzees and all you're doing by making your customers go round in circles is make us all buy another brand of product in the future.
OP - you've the same issue as me. my board'll be going back to the shop for a refund after the UK holiday I think. support have had my ticket in for 3 weeks. first they sent me a scan of the instruction book and 2 weeks later said they will get a engineer to look at it. 150GBP for 3 weeks downtime. bargain.
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