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You might get a better responce when you post in the correct area. The Via guys could not give a care about an NVidia board you know. LOL
Besides we have an area of the forum for overclocking discussions. Not in the main tech areas.
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MSI Diamond Plus - SATA problem

Hello,
I have a MSI Diamond Plus board. About 3 weeks ago my old OCZ 520ADJ power supply failed. I RMA'd it and received a 600 ModXtreme back. After hooking it up I am no longer able to use the four nForce4 SATA ports connected through the nvidia chipset. I am still able to use the 2 from SIL. Please any advice would be really helpful! When I plug any device ( 3 HD's 1 DVD/CD Rom ) into any of the nvidia supplied ports they are not detected by the BIOS.

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MOVED: K8N Diamond Plus Motherboard overclocking problem.

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Quote from: TimeReaper on 15-February-06, 09:15:17
I know this board can reach 300+ by reviews by Tom's Hardware. But I was wondering how I could get my FSB up there? I can't seem to get past the hurtle at 270. Anything above this will make the system fail to start up and I have to clear the BIOS again.
I lowered the HT to the equivalent of 3X, and CPU Multiplier to 8X using a venice core 3500+. I even tried adding voltage to the HT. I'm wondering if I'm missing something in this equation that stops me from getting 300+ FSB? The overclockable items are too many and unexplained.
If someone could spread some light on what else needs to be done, please tell me.
My system is as follows.
MSI K8N Diamond Plus
AMD64 3500+ Venice
OCZ DDR600 Platinum Elite
520 OCZ Powerstream
2x Samsung 200G@Raid 0
Zalman CNPS 9500 LED
Sapphire GTO2
Hi dude,
I have the similar problem as well. Sounds like you are in the bad shape, but yeah, try to loose your RAM settings. First, all settings auto seem to be good, but it's actually not the case. You have to set TRC and TRFC as higher than 12 and 14. I am seeting those to be 14, 18, and it seems to be working great. It will be better to set the burst length as 4 beats. I don't like this board coz I can't set the drive length to be weak instead of normal detected by the Windows. My system can post, but I got problems of playing 3D demos and games, which looks like it's the problem of motherboard. Not mature enough.
My rig:
AMD Athlon64 3700+ @ 2.7GHz
OCZ Platinum Elite DDR600 2.5-4-4-10 Dual Channel
Leadtek PX6800GT @ 425/1200 at 2nd PCIe slot
2 x WD 120GB 7200RPM + Samsung 160GB HD

Problem with 2gb Corsair ram on MSI Diamond plus mobo

Ok first of all,the specs:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ "Manchester"
MSI MS-7100 K8N Diamond Plus, nVidia nForce4 SLI
MSI GeForce NX7900GTX-T2D512E
2048 MB DDR-RAM, 400MHz - (TWINX1024-3200C2PRO) Corsair TwinX CL2
( 4 pieces at 512mb ram)
Plextor PX-755SA/T3K DualLayer / 16x DVD+/-RW
HDD: Maxtor DiamondMax 10 (6V200E0) 200 GB SerialATA-II / 7200rpm
running on win xp prof. sp2
with newest version of mobo bios and drivers.
The thing is, if i stick all the for ram pieces into the pc, it tends to crash down after a while or during the booting with PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA as error msg.
but if i take two pieces out and run all with 1 gb no problems occour. This is starting to really annoy me, so i'm hoping someone has the know how to help me out, i'd really appriciate any suggestions or or solutions, i just want to run my system with 2gb of ram

run memtest on the system and tell us if you get any errors. it is probably a bad configuration of the memory timings and voltages. try to get the timings and voltages from the manufacturer's web page and then set up manually in bios.

MOVED: K8 Diamond Plus Issues

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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=99169.0

Thanks for the replies. If the drivers are not essential at the initial stage then that's fine with me - I should be able to install any drivers required from within Windows, which is as I first thought. This leads me then to the main issue I am experiencing.
Once I've got into Windows and loaded on the nForce4 chipset drivers the system becomes extremely unstable. The longest it can stay operational is about an hour before a brief BSOD followed by an immediate reboot. This can happen whether I am at the machine or away with it locked, but it always happens. When I get back into Windows, the OLA tells me an 'unknown device driver' is causing the issue - but nothing more than that.
I've run Eurosoft's PC-Check over all my hardware (outside of Windows), which reports all components are 100% error-free. I am using the latest nForce drivers from MSI, as well as the latest BIOS (1.20). Am using the latest Catalyst drivers from nVidia. All Microsoft updates are applied. My hardware is as follows:
MSI K8 Diamond Plus (new)
AMD64 X2 4400+
2x 1GB Crucial Ballistix PC4000
Crucial Radeon x1900xtx (new)
Soundblaster Audigy LS
Seagate Barracuda 120GB SATA
Seagate Barracuda 200GB SATA
BenQ DVD-RW
QTechnology 560W PSU (36A on 2x12V) (new)
I really am out of ideas now having been troubleshooting this for over a week with no success. I have been in discussion with Crucial as at first I thought the memory was at fault, but all diagnostics say otherwise - it's only in Windows that the problems arise.
I'd really appreciate any assistance or suggestions anybody may have here...
Thank you.

NX8600GTS - Diamond Plus HDMI Problem

I have this new video card and am trying to connect a single display via HDMI only. I do not wish to use DVI. I'm having difficulity in setting this up properly. I need help. So far the only way I can get this to work is using Dual Display option and use DVI and then send the signal to the HDMI interface; however it requires the DVI connecter be active. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I too am having this problem!! This is a serious problem that someone from MSI needs to address. I bought this card to use on my HTPC in my living room on my new Sony 52" LCD for gaming and HDTV. If I plug just the HDMI in then then everything works up until the point Windows is supposed to start, and the sytem goes still and no display unless I plug something into the DVI port, even a VGA adapter to the TV's built in PC input, then suddently the system starts to boot. I don't want to have to flip back and forth just to get windows to boot everytime!
I did some searching on the internet and noticed other people have had this problem in the past with older model Nvidia cards like the 6800. They appeared to have solved the problem by updating the Nvidia Bios with an ASUS version bios (even though their card was a different manufacturer). I don't want to attempt this, but the moral of the story is it means the problem most likely is bios related, not driver. Also the fact that Windows doesn't even boot yet, meaning the driver isn't even loaded yet, confirms that assumption. What is probably happening is Windows is not detecting any displays so it doesn't boot. I tried to update the MSI bios but apparently it's at the most current version, and there are no older versions listed for download I could try.
Can someone from MSI please help us out here with this problem? Most of the people who buy this HDMI card want to plug it into their HDTV as the only display. If you can't do that with the HDMI it's worthless for that use!
Quote from: jzizzi on 11-December-07, 05:44:02
I have the same problem as the original poster with still no solution.
Maybe I can clear it up a little as far as the specific problem.
Hardware:
MSI 8600GTS Diamond Plus (just one, no sli)
MSI K9N SLI MB
Corsair XMS2 Ram
Sony Bravia 60" Projection TV
If I plug the video card into a regular monitor via DVI, video card works great. Boots into Windows XP, everything is good.
As soon as I disconnect the card from the monitor and move it to the tv and connect the tv via HDMI, system can boot into BIOS but after the summary screen, goes blank and Windows won't load. No HDD active LED, nothing.
As soon as I plug in a monitor via DVI, boot into Windows, plug in HDMI, switch to Multiple monitors, I can then use the TV as a monitor.
This wont due since I don't want to have a monitor sitting next to my TV all the time.
I don't want to use another output method for my TV as, the way my sound system is connected, I don't want to have to select different sound sources everytime I switch input's on my tv (if that makes sense to anyone).
I have done a MSILive BIOS update for the card but I'm not sure what it did since I didn't read the release notes.
Drivers have no affect in this problem since it doesn't physically boot into Windows anyway.
ANY HELP WOULD BE AWESOME!!!

K8N Diamond Plus boot problems

I just built a new computer and it was working fine for about a month. Then one morning when I started it up it wouldn't turn on. The front LED's turn on, and the fans all start, but nothing ever shows up on the screen. The set of four lights on the back show R R
G G
Nothing has changed since the pc was working fine. I haven't changed any bios settings or added any hardware or software. I did try resetting the bios using the CMOS jumper, but this didn't change anything. The lights on the back show that it is initializing ide drivers, but in the manual it also shows that it is one of the last steps in the start-up process, so i would think that the memory check, processor count, msi logo ect. should appear on the screen like it normally does. However, the LED that blinks when the hard drive is active never lights up, but when i open the case and feel the hard drive i can feel it vibrating like it is functioning properly. And if it is a hardrive failure, then shouldn't the bios still start up and show up on the monitor? I have heard that many weird problems can be attributed to the psu, but I have a 500w Antec Smartpower 2.0, which is a pretty reliable psu from what i've heard. Any help or suggestions would be welcome. Also, how would i test individual components to find out what is causing the problem? I think since everything is within a couple of months old i should be able to get replacements. Thanks in advance for any help.
System Spec:
MSI K8N Diamond Plus
AMD Athlon X2 3800+
Nvidia 7600 GT
Maxtor DiamondMax 300gb ultra16
2gb Corsair Twinx xms ddr400
500w Antec Smartpower 2.0
Thanks!!

Quote from: Mikeyp926 on 15-August-06, 12:58:47
You guys are awesome! Thanks a bunch for the info on ram, I feel like I understand it better and I looked and found all the stuff in the bios that you guys were talking about. I'm downloading speedfan currently and will go install it on my other computer. I tried swapping the sticks of memory, but i ran into the same problem i did before. So i'm assuming that i can safely say one stick is faulty right? And do any of you guys have any experience trying to get replacement memory from crucial? I'll have to go poke around their website also. Well, thank you all so much for all of your help. This is my first home built pc and i'm trying to learn alot about them. Once everything is running properly i may try a little overclocking, but i'd like to get everything running smoothly first. Just out of curiosity, what would make a stick of ram go bad like that? It was only a month old, and i thought crucial xms was pretty good ram. Is it not? or did i just get unlucky?
Thanks a ton for all the answers, this forum is the most helpful one i've ever seen. thanks!
Maybe that you're unlucky to get those faulty RAM. Crucial RAM is not bad if you get the better performance if you're ocing your PC if or else get the value RAM if you don't oced.
Quote from: Svenomous on 15-August-06, 12:55:00
Speedfan 4.29 works with the K8N Diamond Plus. I have it running now
Ok. Get it but not sure about MBM as it seems that it don't support it. :p

K8N Diamond Plus BIOS problems

Hi , just replaced my lanpartyUT sli-dr expert with K8N Diamond Plus mobo and having problems allready :D
Just finished overclocking and now running at (250 x 11 x 800mhz x 1.300v+0.2v x dram/fsb 1/1 x 2.80v)
Memory timings --> (3,7,14,3,2,8,2,2,1,3,200mhz(15.6us),1,16x,7x,7ns,5ns,0clk,DiCC:enabled,1T,8beats,reduce 00%... ...)
The problem is "BOOT" related... System is PRIME95 stable , but still when trying to "restart windows" or "reset" the system wont BOOT !!?
When i shutdown and then power up, the system boots perfectly !? What can cause this kind of behaviour :/
I have OC:d quite many systems , but this is new even to me

The windows core program shows htt link 1000mhz exact. Memory settings are all "manually" adjusted. Cpu vcore is 1.300 & extra voltage 0.2v=1.5v.
All ECC options are disabled.Hdd:s adjusted manually. Should i rise the (NB) voltage , or does that have anything to do with this !? Maybe not at 250fsb only :D Cool & quiet is disabled naturally :/ All fan controls disabled , connected directly to psu. No D.O.T,s or anything automatic overclocking enabled. The (L cache & data cache scrubs) are strange to me, so those are disabled.After flashed bios , enabled boot sector protection. All the mobo power connectors are in use (24pin+8pin+4pin) Could it be that the memory modules should be used on ports 3 & 4 (now on 1 & 2) ??
The mushkin redline xp4000 memory specs Fortron Epsilon 700W Psu specs
Output Voltage Min. load Max. load      Load Reg.     Ripple & Noise
Frequency:   500MHz +5V     0.5A     30.0A     +-5%     50mV P-P
Latency:   3-3-2-8 +12V1   0.0A     18.0A     +-5%     120mV P-P
Parity:   Unbuffered +12V2   0.0A     18.0A     +-5%     120mV P-P
Voltage:   2.6V-2.9V +12V3   0.9A     18.0A     +-5%     120mV P-P
Module:   128MX64 +12V4   0.1A     18.0A     +-5%     120mV P-P
Chip:   64MX8 +3.3V   0.8A     36.0A     +-5%     50mV P-P
Pins:   184 -12V     0.0A     0.8A     +-10%     120mV P-P
+5Vsb   0.0A     3.0A     +-5%     50mV P-P

MSI eclipse plus startup problem

Hi,
I have the MSI eclipse plus motherboard, but I have a strange startup problem.
Sometimes my computer fails to start up. When I try again sometimes it works fine. (without changing any hardware or software configuration)
The Eclipse plus has a small D-led2 panel that shows information about the startup phases.
When my startup fails, the panel mentions: CPU init. And the error Code is FF (this means: power on and first initialize CPU)
(This is the phase just before DDR init).
So the startup fails in a very early stage of the startup process, (before I can access my bios)
When the start up fails, I have to disconnect the power cable, reconnect and try to start again. This is a very uncomfortable situation.
I have the latest BIOS version 21/04/2009 V1.0
I tried the fail-save default options in the bios.
My processor is i7 940
RAM: OCZ DDR3 . 6 pieces of 2GB. 1600Mhz (3 dual channel kits)
Power supply: Corsair 1000Watt
I hope somebody can help me.
Thanks in advance

Please note that the memory controller was moved into the CPU with the i7 - it is no longer part of motherboard chipset (MCH). You're not the first and probably won't be the last to buy the wrong type of DDR3 memory for your i7 rig. People, before you buy; check if the memory you are handing money over for is actually suitable for your CPU. Simple really as they will state they are i7 compatible. The i7 has a recommended maximum voltage of 1.65V for the integrated memory controller, 1.9V is probably a dangerous voltage to set it to (if the BIOS even allows it). To quote the OCZ FAQ:
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The memory supply voltage also powers the receivers and senders on the memory controller with a voltage plane known as VDDQ. Because the Corei7 is manufactured on a 45 nm node, the logic is sensitive to overvoltage and Intel defines the upper safe limit for the Core i7 as 1.65V.
So to answer your question:
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I still have one question: What do I risk with my DDR3 memory that is standard at 1.9V
More than likely, the integrity of the i7 940 itself. You have to ask yourself, "What's cheaper to replace... the RAM or the CPU?" The answer should be simple enough to work out for the average user.
I'd be taking the RAM back if at all possible and exchange/upgrade it for an i7 compatible kit (which will be three/six stick tri-channel, not two/four sticks dual-channel) designed to operate within the 1.5V~1.65V recommended voltage range. The OCZ equivalent (comparing what you currently have) to what you want would be this range.

Diamond Plus overclocking problems - memory related?

Here's my setup:
K8N Diamond Plus (stock BIOS)
x4 512MB Corsair TWINX1024-3200XL PC3200 Memory (2-2-2-5 factory settings)
AMD San Diego 3700+
Seasonic S12 500
If I run two of the sticks in dual channel (1 gig of memory), I get DDR 400 but any attempt to change FSB results in Windows being unable to start. I've tried x10 and x11 mults. Being able to overclock with only one gig of memory is my main priority since I can use my extra gig for another machine. That and I want to run at true DDR400.
Here's where I'm really confused: If I run all four sticks (2 gigs), my memory runs in DDR333 and I can get the following overclock:
CPU @ 2.64 ghz (up from 2.2): x11 Mult, 240 HTT, +.05 additional voltage. Temperatures all seem fine, but I know people have been able to get this CPU up to 2.8 ghz. Any higher than what I have, and I can't post or Windows will crash.
Prime95 ran once overnight w/out error. Will try again tonight.
My memory is set for 1:1 and it shows up as DDR400 in the BIOS, but detects as DDR333 at post (why?). Also, CPU-Z shows my memory frequency as only 188.6 MHZ (too low?) and FSB:DRAM as CPU/14 (also too low?). Command rate is 2T and the volts have been set to Corsair's spec of 1.75.
This is my first overclock so I'm sure I've screwed up somewhere. For example, in the Hyper Transport settings, I set all three of the possible settings to 1000mhz from 400mhz. Is this wrong?
Thanks for any help you guys can give me. Just to reemphasize- I'd like to overclock with only 1 gig of my memory in the system, or have higher clock and memory speeds using two gigs.

you will get the DDR333 when using 4 sticks because of the memory controller limitations on the CPU. there is nothing you or MSI can do about it, it's the CPU's fault. however, san diegos might be working at DDR400 with 4 sticks if you set the command rate to 2T. it doesn't always work, but sometimes it does.
as for the hyper transport, do the following. divide the number that you set in BIOS for all 3 to 200 (for example if you set it to 400 then 400/200 =2). that gives you the HT multiplier. now, multiply that by the FSB that you are using, so at 240, you will have 240x2=480. you always have to keep the resulting value between 600 and 1000.
hope it's clear. you can read some more on the OC-ing in the stickies of this section.

New BIOS for Diamond Plus any problem noted yet.

Anybody using the new BIOS for the Diamond Plus Version 3.09 BIOS.
I have got it installed and upgrade went will, but be ready for changes. Go over you BIOS Setting each and every parameter, because they have changed a lot of the defaults, like all Network controllers are disabled by default. The have made changes to the Hyper Transport Defaults setting they are what they should have been in the first place.
Marvel Yukon network controller drivers of old will not will not load and MSI USA download for the driver is off line. Tw site is not down but not taking new requests for the drive because of traffic load. Old nVidia network drives loaded after I enabled on board LAN on in the BIOS.
That, all I have checked out so far, Oh yes the changes in Memory BIOS setting, but have not been able to check all of the out. If some one with experience with memory BIOS settings could check them out and give report back it would be helpful.
We asked for it now we got it, for better or worse.
Roger
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Quote from: NoBS on 22-March-06, 21:40:24
Wow, funny how 2 gigs still needs a paging file with a standard desk top!
Of course, even funnier just how fast 2 gigs can be eat'n up with 3d rendering and audio/video encoding!
Just blowing my mind, remember when 32meg RAM was considered over kill?
Ah those 3.1 days
that's not a bios issue it is a xp home and xp pro 32 bit issue.
if you want 4 gigs you need a 64 bit OS like server 2003 or xp pro 64 bit.
Yes it will run in dual channel but due to limitations you will have it run in ddr 333 *UNLESS* you have single sided 1 gig sticks.
Even with 4 gigs you will see slightly less than 4 gigs in bios, as a portion is Used there. once in windows you will see the full 4 gigs.
btw I am on my old P4 3.0e prescott as i sent in my two 7800gt's for the step up program.
They should be here by the 31st.
For what it is worth I have had 4 gigs working on this mb and cpu using ms's free dl of their 64 bit os.
It took me for ever to figure out why i was only getting 333 ddr and 3.5 gigs. this was 18 months ago.
When i ran a dual boot of the xp hom and xp 64 with 4 gigs, i did not see the support from my prefered software vendors. So i sent back 2 gigs, and stuck with xp home. Now that i have the new amd i stepped up to xp pro 64 bit and love it.

MOVED: MSI KT880 Delta-FSR - problem with multiplier

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MSI KT880 Delta-FSR - problem with multiplier

http://www.rme-audio.com/english/techinfo/nforce2_tweaks_02.htm
wiretrick it so multipliers under 12.5 will work
assuming the cpu is an old unlocked one

OVER CLOCKING A AMD 3500+ ON A MSI DIAMOND PLUS MOBO.

Hello.
I am wanting to Over Clock my AMD 3500+ To a 4000+ On my Msi K8N Diamond plus motherboard
I have a gig of Kingston hyper x 400 and I was wondering how I would go about doing this
thanks so much for all you help. MSI DriversnVidia DriversAMD

Quote from: Nvdia48 on 22-May-06, 04:28:22
Hello.
I am wanting to Over Clock my AMD 3500+ To a 4000+ On my Msi K8N Diamond plus motherboard
I have a gig of Kingston hyper x 400 and I was wondering how I would go about doing this
thanks so much for all you help. MSI DriversnVidia DriversAMD
I'd refer to the stickys at the top of the page for a start...
Have fun!

K8N Diamond Plus Video problems

When ever I run a Game or any 3D program like 3DMark the video locks up I removed 1 of the card to test for SLI problems and get the same result pixilated FPS drop to 1 from 50-60 FPS and the system reboots after about 2m
Only think I have not done is update the Video cards Bios I have a friend that is having the same problem only thing that is different is he has running Win XP SP2 and has the n516 model video card and he did the bios update and after he did the Bios on the video card the system does not lock any more but the video get pixilated even just sitting at the desktop and he all other drivers are up to date
Mainboard K8N Diamond Plus V1.0
CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Toledo
2 CORSAIR 1GB DDR 400
2 eVGA 256-P2-N517-AX Geforce 7800GT 256MB
Antec NeoHE 500 ATX12V 500W
Antec LifeStyle SONATA II
Microsoft Windows XP Professional X64

Quote from: jzastrow on 19-February-06, 23:34:02
When ever I run a Game or any 3D program like 3DMark the video locks up I removed 1 of the card to test for SLI problems and get the same result pixilated FPS drop to 1 from 50-60 FPS and the system reboots after about 2m
Only think I have not done is update the Video cards Bios I have a friend that is having the same problem only thing that is different is he has running Win XP SP2 and has the n516 model video card and he did the bios update and after he did the Bios on the video card the system does not lock any more but the video get pixilated even just sitting at the desktop and he all other drivers are up to date
Mainboard K8N Diamond Plus V1.0
CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Toledo
2 CORSAIR 1GB DDR 400
2 eVGA 256-P2-N517-AX Geforce 7800GT 256MB
Antec NeoHE 500 ATX12V 500W
Antec LifeStyle SONATA II
Microsoft Windows XP Professional X64
I have a similar system
as you can see. you need 550 minimum to run it.
also what video drivers are you using?
what was the order of your xp install?
where is your page file?
what config are you hdd's in?
when was the last time you ran dxdiag? (post log here)
when was the last time you defragged? adaware spyware removal?

K8N DIAMOND PLUS (sound problem)

Hi all.
I have a problem with my sound output.
I can only hear sound from my front left speaker and my woofer.
My speakers is Logitech Z-680.
My JAUD1 is jumped 5+6 and 9+10.
Windows settings is 5,1 surround and digital output since i use SPDIF optical!
My PSU is a seasonic S12 500w so that should give the power the board need!!!
anyone that can help me ???

Quote from: phionex00 on 03-May-06, 03:10:01
apologise i ment to post this in my own thread :shocking:hi Bas
ive just been reading a few threads from the Sticky Index - Find Answers Here Fast
and there saying that neo and diamond are shipped with a fault that they reqiure -5V and that systems with modern psu's that dont have the -5v rail the mob has to bee sent back are you aware of this ??
You are hijacking somebody elses post....stop doing this.....
Also the Diamond Plus isn't the same board as the Diamond.....
Do not reply to me, or I remove your posts! (Warning number 2)
@Microdk, could it be that a jumper isn't set right?
Just a wild guess.....

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