MOVED: MSI GTX 980 Gaming issue

This topic has been moved to GAMING Graphics Cards.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=254895.0

Quote from: Nichrome on 15-April-15, 23:35:12
Hmm I don't understand the issue. Are you trying to tell that current clocks are higher than advertised?
Yes. After the update my "default" clocks changed somehow.

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MSI GTX 980 Gaming issue

Hi everyone,
Recently I upgraded the BIOS of my msi gtx 980 gaming and i discovered an issue which I don't know how to fix.
I did upgrade my bios with the official bios from msi live updater 6.
old bios was nv317mh.112
new bios is nv317mh.113
The problem:
My boost clocks were somehow changed and i don't understand why...
before the update my boost clocks were the normal 1291(gaming) and 1317(OC)
after the update my boost clocks changed to 1329(gaming) and 1357(OC)
I did reinstalled the 112 version again and see if it could fix but it didn't fix this issue
I don't have any profile or OC in my msi afterburner.
GPU-Z shows the normal clocks (1291/1317) and my afterburner shows the modified clocks(1329/1357).
They were syncronized before the update.
My card is v317-03S so the bios should be right.
Pls help i don't understand what's causing this issue...

Quote from: Nichrome on 15-April-15, 23:35:12
Hmm I don't understand the issue. Are you trying to tell that current clocks are higher than advertised?
Yes. After the update my "default" clocks changed somehow.

MSI GTX 980 Gaming 4G: Fan issue, too

I build a new system that also includes a brand new MSI GTX 980 Gaming 4G that I received today and to my considerable regret the graphics card is exhibiting fan issues similar to the ones some of you described with 970 cards.
My MSI 980 is spinning one fan at constantly high speed from the moment the system gets turned on. It's the fan on the inner half of the card, not the one on the slot side. My card came with the notorious sticker, which I removed with utmost care. The fan on the sticker/slot side is working perfectly fine, spinning up after launch, then spinning down for as long as the card's temperature is below 60°C, then spinning up again when it's above. Regulation works flawlessly for THIS fan - it can also be controlled manually by AfterBurner, which displays the speed of this fan correctly.
On the other hand, the inner fan does not regulate at all. It goes full throttle from the moment the system starts and never slows down again.
_Its impossible to stop or change the speed of this second fan through AfterBurner or NVidia Inspector._
Trying to make the other fan spin by poking it by hand, as some have described for their 970 cards doesn't change anything, either, since the other fan does run if the temperature neccessitates it.
So it doesn't look like the behaviour of the second fan is caused by something being wrong with the hardware of the first fan.
Anyway - at my wits' end, for now.
My setup:
MSI GTX 980 Gaming 4G (Bios 84.04.1f.00.f6)
NVidia Drivers 344.60
Monitor connected to DVI Port (through VGA adapter, for now)
ASUS Z97-A (Bios v2012)
Core i7-4790K
Samsung SSD 850 Pro
Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64

I tried with the MSI Fan Control tool (v2.0.0.1) that was on the included driver CD: It also has no influence over the second fan, only over the first (properly working) one.
I also checked my cabling and nothing seems bend or cricked. No heat-sink touching circuit boards. Guess I'll pull the plug on this one and move back to my 580 for the duration of the RMA process... I just hope the next one turns out alright.

VBIOS for my MSI GTX 980 GAMING 4G request

Hi,
May I request VBIOS for my MSI GTX 980 GAMING 4G S/N: 602-V317-03SB1409089224?
If possible please provide me with original NV317MH.111 that came with graphic card and the newest one.
PS. I upgraded NV317MH.111 to NV317MH.130 by means of MSI Live Update and now when using MSI Gaming APP to switch speed profiles, the GPU speed values shown in GPU-Z don't match the speeds for original Silent, Game and OC profiles for this card. What's wrong?

nVidia drivers uninstalled.
I used flash you provided; nothing happened :(
D:\Downloads\vBIOS\NEW>nvflash -4 -5 -6 111.rom
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility (Version 5.190)
Simplified Version For OEM Only
Save firmware to file: nvflash [options] --save <filename>
Display version: nvflash [options] --version [<filename>]
Check for supported EEPROM: nvflash [options] --check
List adapters: nvflash [options] --list
Press 'Enter' to continue, or 'Q' to quit.
-- Commands and Options --
help ? Display this screen.
save b <filename> Read EEPROM and save to <filename>.
version v <filename> Display file version and ~CRC32
(if no filename, acts on display adapter).
check c Check for supported EEPROM.
list a List all NVIDIA display adapters found in the system.
overridesub 6 Allow firmware and adapter PCI subsystem ID mismatch.
index i <index> Force a specific device index.
auto A When possible, run without user intervention.
silence s Silence all audio beeps.
beep ! Beep to signal updating progress.
nolight l Do not light keyboard LEDs.
Press 'Enter' to continue, or 'Q' to quit.
override o <level> Override safety check level:
default unknown EEPROM | NV adapter aborts application.
level=1 unknown EEPROM acceptable for read operations.
level=2 unknown NV adapter acceptable for read operations.
level=3 Combined effect of 1,2 (cannot write to unknown EEPROM or adapter).
log L <log file> Create a log file.
compare k <filename> Read EEPROM and compare with <filename>.
verify h <filename> Verify <filename> matches EEPROM if flashed.
Use a single dash ("-") to use the single letter version of a command.
Use a double dash ("--") to use the longer descriptive version of a command.
Use equals ("=") to specify parameters, with separating commas (",").
-- Sample Usage --
nvflash --index=1 nv30nz.rom
D:\Downloads\vBIOS\NEW>

Connection MSI GTX 980 Gaming 4G with 2560x1440 monitor

Hi.
I'm going to buy WQHD (2560x1440) monitor. How to connect MSI GTX 980 Gaming 4G to use 2560x1440 resolution? The specification for card states:
DVI Connectors
1 (Dual-link DVI-I)
Max Resolution: 2048x1536 @60 Hz.
HDMI Connectors
1 (version 1.4a/2.0)
Max Resolution: 4096x2160 @24 Hz (1.4a), 3840x2160 @60 Hz (2.0)
DisplayPort
3 (version 1.2)
Max Resolution: 4096x2160 @60 Hz
I prefer connection over DVI but according to above spec I'm affraid if will be impossible...
I've heard the picture quality over HDMI/DisplayPort is worse then over DVI - is it right?

Quote from: CSIG1001 on 23-October-14, 07:34:58
This cannot be possible Dual Link DVI is capable up to 2560x1600
I just purchased 2x 980s gaming and all the current cards only support DVI up to 1 (Dual-link DVI-I) Max Resolution: 2048x1536 @60 Hz.
This is incorrect unless MSI HQ R&D did not test 2560x1440 and 2560x1600 res or they put crappy components inside this card to not allow it. I went back and fourth with owners on newegg with this card one owner did verify that it does work . For me I own a Monitor that only uses DVI dual link at 2560x1440. This will be a deal breaker for me if the cards do not work with my monitor or the video cards do not function correctly.
This does not make any sense what so ever for a manufacture to implement this standard as the majority of the population isnt even on 2560x1440 or 4k. So i am pretty upset about how tech support fails to acknowledge the reasoning behind this new DVI standard . Go look at the 760-780 series all say max res 2560x1600.
So my question to everyone out there who owns this card am i screwed or should i just use my dual link cable to run 2560x1440 even though it states 2048x1536 max res. Someone that i know online says it works so whats the deal?
FYI this video card does support a max res of 2560x1600 over DVI
Tech support for MSI and Sales department were not trained correctly to let the customer understand that Max Resolution on the website for DVI 2048x1536 is for using the analog VGA adapter
Hope everyone now understands! Because this took me 4 hours of my time to figure out on my own with the help of Newegg tech support and verified owners!

MSI GTX 980 GAMING 4G latest BIOS?

Hello, I have the MSI GTX 980 GAMING 4G and I was wondering which BIOS is the latest.
MSI Live Update 6 reports I have NV317MH.143 installed but offers to install NV317MH.113, which one is newer?
Also I would like to be able to use the Windows 8/8.1 feature in my bios but there is no GOP driver/firmware installed.
S/N: 602-V317-11SB1411003928
I have also another problem I noticed after installing this card. Windows 8.1 Pro wont sleep the monitor or activates the screensaver. Any idea if it's related to the graphics card? Someone suggested it was due to the low mhz the card was running on?

The one suggested by LIve Update is later (new universal vbios that covers more batches than your current one)
All GTX980 vbios versions are UEFI/GOP ones. If you can't enable Fastboot problem is with your board.

MSI GTX 980 GAMING Coil whine!

Just got my GTX 980 Gaming yesterday...... AND it has terrible coil whine!
No point in having silent fans, if the coils whines like pigs!
Just writing this to warn others, mine is going back to the dealer tomorrow.
Tried all MSI profiles (Silent, Gaming and OC) and the noise frequency varies, but it's always there under load in most games. Easiest way to test might be running folding@home on the GPU, which for me causes very solid whine - all the time.
And yes I'm sure it's the GPU, not the PSU (which is a solid Seasonic in case anyone would like to know).

I returned a MSI 970 due to coil whine so loud I could hear it down stairs in the kitchen! I could just hear it outside the room at idle, and when high fps etc it could heard down one set of stairs!
I've had numerous issues with 970's from all companies.
I had two PNY's originally, one the fan never came on unless I pushed it and the other made weird noises from the fan and a low ticking noise from somewhere.
Then went on to two Zotac Omegas, which ran hot even with the fugly 3 slot cooler, and didn't overclock worth beans (the PNY's beat it slightly!) The OC+ and Firestorm are useless and buggy.
Next was one MSI 970 as they only had one in stock (beautiful cards, to bad no backplate) :( It was the one with coil whine bad.
Now trying a MSI 980 that seems good so far (apart from having no backplate :(). A tiny bit of coil whine at very high fps instances, nothing to gripe about.
Even tried two PSU's (an Antec Signature 850W and this EVGA 850W Supernova G2, the whine and issues happened with both, didn't make a difference.)
I expected driver issues to boot, but not this many hardware issues across so many brands. Staying with reference boards and using high quality components seems to work better for these companies than letting them do as they please it seems...
I now have a some banding/flashing issues with this 980 in one game so far, and am hoping its the drivers, but will see as I install more games again...

MOVED: MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G + MSI Z87-G45 incompatible? Noise on speakers

This topic has been moved to MSI Intel boards.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184068.0

Used hardware
MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G (+ RMA'ed new one)
Gigabyte 670 GTX Windforce
MSI Z87-G45 Gaming motherboard (with Intel i7-4770K, Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB, and Crucial M500 - 480GB SSD)
Asus P5N32-E with Q6600 and 8GB DDR2 (Going to test this)
SoundBlaster-Z Audio card
Roccat Kave 5.1 Gaming Headphones (4x 3.5 mm jacks: Front, Rear, Center&bass, Microphone + USB amp/volume control)
Corsair B600 (600W) PSU (secondary)
Corsair RM750 (750W) PSU (Primary)
To summarize
Corsair RM750 + MSI Z87-G45 + Gigabyte GTX 670 + Roccat Kave = really faint noise only when scrolling in browser, in game not heard
Corsair RM750 + MSI Z87-G45 + MSI GTX 970 + Roccat Kave = in game loud and heavy noise + screech when scrolling in browser
Corsair RM750 + MSI Z87-G45 + MSI GTX 970 + Soundblaster-Z + Roccat Kave = In game moderate to heavy noise
Corsair B600 + MSI Z87-G45 + MSI GTX 970 + Soundblaster-Z + Roccat Kave = In game weak to moderate noise
Corsair B600 + MSI Z87-G45 + MSI GTX 970 + Soundblaster-Z + Roccat Kave with Mic disconnected = Almost no noise, ifg you listen for it, really faint background noise in game. But well within my acceptable limits.
Tomorrow I'll try:
Corsair B600 + MSI Z87-G45 (onboard sound) + MSI GTX 970 + Roccat Kave without mic
Corsair RM750 + Asus P5N32-E (onboard sound) + MSI GTX 970 + Roccat Kave with mic
I failed to mention, that the first thing I did was to remove my HD Audio Front panel connector off its header.
So I did some more searches. The noise has something to do with the capacitors on (presumably) the video card. The higher the pitch usually coincides with higher FPS. So the interference must be coming from the video card, as this is the last thing added and probably the main cause.
Both the motherboard & the SoundBlaster-Z pick up the EMI/RF interference. (I am disappointed by the SoundBlaster about this).
I'll test with the older motherboard and see how I proceed from there.

MOVED: MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4G - Fans not spinning

This topic has been moved to GAMING Graphics Cards.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=251859.0

First of all don't hijack other topics next time please. The one you posted in was not related to your question about the fan issue but the normal fans off feature below 60°C. Your thread has been split off.
The issue is fixed in later batches and everyone with a card affected by the issue with one fan not starting at all had been adviced to rma the card as there is no fix for existing cards. The Fans Randomly Turning On issue has been fixed with a vbios update.
The thread you meant by the way has been continued in another topic.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184604.0 (GTX 970 Fan Issue Part Two)
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184740.0 (Fix for GTX970/980 Fans Randomly Turning On issue)

MSI GTX 980 Gaming 4G clock issue

Hi everyone,
I just installed this card into my system, installed the latest nvidia drivers (344.16) and ran GPU-Z (latest test build). This is what I got:
Is 1190 mhz core clock normal? I thought it was meant to be 1216 mhz as advertised when I bought it?
Apart from that performance seems about right, though I am not sure. I ran 3DMark Firestrike and got 11630. My system specs are as follows:
i7 2700K @ 4.6 ghz
8GB RAM
Windows 7 64bit SP1
Any advice will be greatly appreciated!

Use MSI Gaming App (on CD with card) to change profiles. That should change clocks too.

MSI GTX 980 Gaming Edition 4G Throttling? Faulty Bios? Aggresive Temp limit?

Hey everyone, I've been trying to find a thread regarding the issue or shall i say experience i am having with the MSI 980 so i thought ill start a thread.
I received my 980 yesterday, as you may know the fans don't spool up until the card reaches 61c. I've noticed when the temp reaches 62c my card starts downclocking the core by 16mhz and voltage by 25. I do not understand why if this is a temp limit why is it at 61c when the fans actually only spool up then? Why is it not at 81c like the 970 G1 Gaming i had (never experienced anything like this with it and it boosted 1392mhz out of the box) Is the bios faulty?
I started to increase the Power Limit to 122 and prioritized the temp (91) and that did not help. Sometimes it's averaging at 80 90 and sometimes it actually reaches 105 etc but i have not seen it go any higher than 110. The power limit has reached 110 but this was at 59c but the core and voltage was still at stock. (1342mhz core 1.225v)
As this did not help I increased the voltage by +7 and then the core went back to 1342mhz and voltage back to 1.225 (Goes to 1.200 when it throttles). at 65c it drops back again. So i increased the voltage again to +13, then at 68 69c it drops again. then at +20 the core and voltage is sustained at 1342mhz and voltage 1.225.
Does anyone know why this is happening? My MSi 970 Gaming Edition did the same thing but my Gigabyte 970 Gaming G1 did not do that. I am considering on buying the 980 G1 instead as i think they have the temp limit to 81c so if it reaches such temp it throttles to bring the temp down. Some people have experienced this on the G1 only a few as far as i'm aware.
Just to mention I can still overclock to 1535 when it throttles
Any thoughts? RMA? try the G1 as i never experienced it with that ?

Done that, when the power limit reaches 120 it throttles which is normal. As soon as i enter the game the usage is 90+% and then the core and voltage are at 1342mhz and v 1.225 as soon as it reaches 62-63c it drops the core to 1329mhz and v to 1.200. What ever i do it is stuck at that level unless i increase my voltage by +20 and then it goes to 1.225v. Then it does not throttle. What could this be? If it really is in the BIOS as MSI inteded, then why when i use third party apps to increase the power why doesn't it still force it to throttle. It seems like there is something else wrong to me.

Question about the fans spinning in the MSI GTX 980 gaming

Hi everyone. I'm new to the forums and also new to MSI. I just bought one of their 980 gtx gaming cards.
So far it seems pretty awesome. Was a little shocked when I realized that the fans on it don't even start spinning unless the card reaches at least 60 degrees. That's a really neat feature.
However, I opened the side of the case and played some games for a bit to give it a test, and I noticed that even when the fans did start, they didn't both always start. At first it was just the right one, but then the left started as well after a while.
Then a bit later, I noticed the right one was off and the left one was stopping.
Is it normal for these MSI cards to be independent of each other?
thanks.

Frankly I didn't even bother finding out my stable clocks on stock voltage this time around and went directly to +87mV. I have a case with so-so airflow, and yet OC'ed, max load I never see temps above 72C (with 100% fan profile at 65C which is the max temp before Maxwells throttle).

MOVED: MSI GTX 960 GAMING VS MSI GTX 960 GAMING 100ME

This topic has been moved to GAMING Graphics Cards.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=255407.0

My workstation is a HP Z400. The PSU model is "DPS-475C8-1 A" from HP. And manufactured by Delta Electronics.
Max. Combined Power on +3.3V & +5.1V: 110W
Max. Combined Power on +12V (D, B, CPU): 456W (38A)
Max. Combined Total Output Power: 475W
Thank you

MSI gtx 980 physx issue

Hello there, I made a previous post where I thought a power issue was making my games crash, this is not the case and I have found out there is a problem with physx.
I am just curious if anyone else is having these issues ? I have run the metro redux benchmark a lot and it seems that I crash when physx are set to "GPU" but setting it to "CPU" fixes all my crashing issues, I was just wondering if anyone else has these issues ?? and if anyone believes this is simply a driver problem or if the card is actually defective ?
I have no other issues and with physx set to cpu I have no issues so I doubt the card is defective.

Quote from: Boogie37 on 24-October-14, 20:58:40
I have 970 gaming 4g have same issue. As soon as i change physx to cpu in NVCP it stop to give the tdr error recovery thing. And its not only us with msi cards, people on nvidia forum with asus,evga etc complain about it too.I didnt see people with gigabyte complaining yet or im maybe blind :-P. It stops for most of them if they uninstall physx or change to cpu. Happens with games that dosent use physx like fx: wow (post on wow forum about that issue too).
After i changed it to cpu i could play wow all day and other games too, even could run heaven for hours nothing happens. As soon as i activate physx to gpu bam tdr after few sec.
edit:
Happens both with 344.16 and 344.48
There is some file that you have to install for physx to work with metro redux. Check guru3d for the availability of those file.

MOVED: MSI GTX 980 4G unstable oc with 347.88

This topic has been moved to Overclocking, Undervolting.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=255009.0

It is not unusual that oc behavior can change with a different driver version. Might be also that stability wasn't 100% checked with first driver and it would now just crash in a different situation when it would crash before as well.
Add specs and settings for Afterburner to apply oc -> >>Posting Guide<<

MOVED: MSI GTX 980 Gaming issue

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