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*** I don't want to open another topic so I'll post here ***
Can anyone please recommend a 2x1GB kit compatible with MS-7220 and runs in at least DDR-500 mode?
I'm about to complete my rig and I don't know what RAM to buy.
My options are:
*** GSkill F1-4000BIU2-2GBHV PC4000 3-3-2-8 (Dual Channel) 2048MB kit (2x1024MB) dual channel pack *** NOT in my country
*** GSkill F1-4000USU2-2GBHZ PC4000(DDR500) 3-4-4-8 (Dual channel) Samsung / 2048MB kit (2x1024MB) dual channel pack
*** Corsair TWINX2048-4000PT 2048 MB DDR / 500 MHz / 3-4-4-8
*** Corsair TWINX2048-4400PRO 2048 MB DDR / 550 MHz / 3-4-4-8
I heard that there are some problems with the BIOS on MS-7220. Will I be able to run the memory at DDR-500? On what BIOS version?
Thanks!

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Zone^55 Live,
Remember that every time you change the FSB you effect the HT, Core and Memory clocks.
The amount you effect the is determined buy the multipliers you have setup.
In addition, the are no fixed frequency parameters on the Diamond Plus and many paramter are in volved.
So, the days of over-clock a system just meant turning up the FSB clock and maybe twicking the memory timing parameters are gone.
Over-clocking and system now is not just over-clocking, its system prefomance tuning.
EDIT:On your last post I do not have the information to answer that it would take the specification and data sheets on all the components of you system and many hours of study. You have got yourself into a system, that to turn it to its maximum performance you are going to have to know how each subsystem works, inter acts with the other subsystems to be able to turn it correctly to the maximum preformace and ypu many not get the same performace out of two system made up of the exact same components. Because this system push the components to edge of there capabilities. So, if the conponents are all +/- 5% you same system may preform 10% better or 10% worse than some one elses.
One more thing in your screen shorts your HT Data Paths are set 8/8 change them to 16/16, that will help system preformace as much as increasing FSB.
Roger
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Hi again Have been trying to beat that 2.8ghz, but no luck... i have tried the following
--> 250x11x4x1.528v = 2,75ghz , htt:1000mhz , ram ddr500 (works stable & fine) the htt is maybe too high though.. works better if lower
--> 280x10x3x1.528v = 2,80ghz , htt:840mhz , ram ddr466 (The best result) (only the ram is slow
--> 290x10x3x1.528 = 2,90ghz , htt:870mhz , ram ddr482 (the cpu starts to need a lot more JUICE)
--> 300x9x3x1.528 = 2,70ghz , htt:900mhz , ram DDR500 (actually ddr488, i dont know why..) (very good,but the ram isnt ddr500..)
--> 305x9x3x1.528 = 2,75ghz , htt 915mhz , ram DDR508 (closer to ddr500) (seems to be the miracle point where everything works awesome)
So the 2,80ghz would be the best cpu overclock, but i cant get the htt & ram to work at their best with that....

MSI K8N Diamond Plus Question

Will the ThermalRight XP-90C Heatsink and 92mm fan work with this board? Thermalright's web site does not say anyything but I can't help but wounder if it will fit with that fanless cooler on the MOBO.
Thanks

Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 00:23:59
I've got an XP-90 installed and there is plenty of room. Plenty of airflow also. I'm at a constant 31-36 celsius, so no worries on the CPU. This cooler is large, I had it on an Asus A8V deluxe, an Abit AN8 SLI and now on the MSI K8N Diamond Plus, and its basically located on the same place regardless of mobo, so I wouldnt worry too much about it.
I did'nt mean that it has a massive effect on the temps, although comparing your rig to my last (AN8 Ultra, 3700 @ 2.7) my temps never went above 32'c idle and 44'c loaded!!
I meant that the airflow in my case struggles a little because the exhaust fan is right next to the hs and I cannot operate it the other way round due to my ram hs being so bloody large <damn you Corsair!!>
Sorry if I caused confusion!!

MSI K8N Diamond Plus - Guide to my first week

OK, not a newb here, but been around the block quite a bit. MSI K8N Diamond Plus is my 5th A64 mobo (ECS K8M800, my daily undestroyed computer, K8T800, my 12 year olds gamer, Asus A8V Deluxe, first 939 system, Abit AN8 SLI, first SLI gamer, and now the MSI Diamond Plus). Had the KDP (K8N Diamond Plus) for more than a week now, and here's what I've learned.
This is state of the art again, and we have no one to blame but ourselves for the pain this causes us when we upgrade like lunatics
And as usual, the drivers and BIOS are al Dente (i.e. not cooked enought yet, a little raw)
MSI is also oddly silent on this system, which is wierd, as they are a large company, and specifically cater to enthusiasts. But their BIOS guys are MIA. Hopefully this will not be forever. Asus, ABIT, DFI, Epox are always fast with fixes
The board is a nice design, with everything basically accessible, as much as any other board. Lots of purposeful components, not too many dumb frills. No tooty fruity colors, but rather practical parts.
The new 2 piece NForce chipset is fine, and the MSI guys gave us a decent, but funky cooler. It gets a little warm to the touch when you pound on it with Prime95, or Quake4, but other than that it is fine
The manual has a zillion typos, and fortunately for us in this forum, we have shared what we've learned. The translation from Chinese to English leaves quite a bit to be desired, and hopefully, MSI will learn from Asus and Abit and get a better translation service. In 2006 this is just plain stupid, especially with a $225 board
As usual, the mobo supplied tweaker utilities are just aweful. They look like a hallucination from a Hunter S Thompson book, and they work about as well. Core center is a sad state of affairs, and the rest of them just burrow their way into your otherwise stable system and cause it to have poor behavior. And therefore as usual, the BIOS is the best way, if slowest, to tweak this bundle of parts
Which brings us to the BIOS. IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board. ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation )
There seem to be adequate settings in the BIOS for all sorts of doodads and gizmos, but who the heck knows what half of them are. Roger points out rightfully, that we now need to "Tune" across all these different intermediary bus structures and test. But with the lack of info from either NVidia, MSI or anyone else for that matter, its kinda hard to know where to start.
The board is clearly sensitive, which is a result of it being high strung. This is no different than any "first out" product I've ever bought. Most take 2 or 3 turns of the crank to get totally stable and forgiving. This one hated my OCZ platinum EL 2Gb kit memory, and it brought out the worst in one of the SLI based EVGA 7800 GT COs. These components worked in the Abit AN8 SLI (although not always great), but the MSI has ZERO tolerance for even the slightest pertubation from the memory. It was BSOD city until I removed both of these components by process of elimination that took probably 100 hours
Once I removed the bad components, and replaced the memory with Geil Ultra X 2x512 2-2-2-5, it worked great, ran Prime95 for 10 hours with no errors, and seems reasonably stable. I've RMA-d the bad 7800GT CO back to EVGA, and will report back on how SLI behaves when I get the new one (cross shipped of course, I haveno patience )
I also now need to replace the 2Gb RAM kit with something that the board will tolerate. I may RMA the 2Gb kit back to OCZ and try another one, but I dunno. I love OCZ but I have a bad feeling about this, even though they have great!!! support. I may try OCZ PC4000 or the RAM that Roger successfully used.
I did upgrade to the 1.16 BIOS, and found that some new things were added, as well as voltage control in Cell was a little better, but registration of changes in voltage is still a disaster. I adjusted a bunch of times, it didn't register, and I ended up smoking a new A64 3700+ Diego with 1.95 volts, even though the BIOS claimed it was 1.53. I had to rebot to see what was going on. The Thermalright XP-90 kept the proc from melting down through the earth
Finally, I hope this board attracts more people, and therefore more tweakers that can figure out all these gadgets and settings. Everyone flocked to the Asus X16 SLI product, which is too bad, as this one needs lots o' folks to hack it up for us to figure out what is going on.
The on board Creative audio sounds lousy to my ears, and I will replace it with an Audigy 2ZS gamer that I had in the Abit. It just sounds better, but hopefully the drivers will not trash my newly stable system. Creative scares me, they scare me alot.
I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory. So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet
I hope this info is somewhat valuable to someone on this board. I will post details of all changes that I make, as others are doing, so we can at least take care of ourselves with this thing.

Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
Which brings us to the BIOS. IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board. ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation )
There seem to be adequate settings in the BIOS for all sorts of doodads and gizmos, but who the heck knows what half of them are. Roger points out rightfully, that we now need to "Tune" across all these different intermediary bus structures and test. But with the lack of info from either NVidia, MSI or anyone else for that matter, its kinda hard to know where to start.
first of all, i do think that all the settings in the BIOS have an explanation in the manual, even if it's a basic one. if that explanation doesn't tell you everything in detail, is because if you do need a detailed explanation of the settings, you probably shouldn't be messing around with those settings.
Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
I did upgrade to the 1.16 BIOS, and found that some new things were added, as well as voltage control in Cell was a little better, but registration of changes in voltage is still a disaster. I adjusted a bunch of times, it didn't register, and I ended up smoking a new A64 3700+ Diego with 1.95 volts, even though the BIOS claimed it was 1.53. I had to rebot to see what was going on. The Thermalright XP-90 kept the proc from melting down through the earth.
wanna tell me how did you get 1.95V on that mobo?
Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory. So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet
a 0.5V bump? again, you must be joking. maybe 0.05V.

Soundblaster Audigy on MSI K8N Diamond Plus, Sound Linked? vs Audigy2 ZS?

Had a couple of quick questions regarding the Soundblaster Audigy onboard chip on my MSI K8N Diamond Plus. I have the audio connected to a front panel, and when I try and change the Right or Left speaker volume balance in Windows (by going to volume control and dragging the balance slider right or left), the volume slider goes down and the balance slider snaps back to center. As in my previous post, I had some damage to my front panel connector pins and wanted to make sure this wasn't a hardware issue requiring a replacement of the board.
Also, I have a Soundblaster Audigy2 ZS card from my previous system, and I was wondering if it added anything the onboard Soundblaster chip doesn't provide. I was thinking of installing it, but if the onboard audio does everything the card would, I'd rather just use the onboard solution.
Thanks.

Quote from: syar2003 on 21-August-06, 06:59:38
Onboard creative is just live24 marketed as Audigy SE
live 24bit is an audigy SE striped down of some features.

Anoying issue with K8N Diamond PLUS and overclocking.

I just got the motherboard wehn i overclock and restart the PC either from windows or BIOS etc. The PC will not boot and have to turn it off then turn back on. Apart from this annoying issue it's a great board better theen my A8N SLi Premium mostly due to the extra CPU voltage yay :D Is anyone else getting this issue?
System spcs are
AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ @ 2766MHz (1.6v)
2GB Crucial Tracer PC4000
2x DELL Slient Geforce 7800GTX 256MB card
Espison 700w SLi cert PSU with EPS CPU voltage connected
Koolance EXOS AI Watercooling
MSi K8N Diamond PLUS
2x 150GB Raptor X in RAID-0
Coolermaser RC-830 w/ 4x 140mm + 3x 120mm fans

thats funny mine did that when i first got it , but when i received my new memory and video card everything was normal...so i dont remember if it was the memory or the VC..i just totally forgot about it..funny though i thought it was only me

K8N Diamond Plus and Opteron 175

Anyone running a K8N Diamond Plus and an Opteron 175 ok?
Any problems?
Any tips?

Quote from: skippy9146 on 20-January-06, 08:51:51
They should run fine... as a Diamond Plus comes with a Dual Core compatable BIOS.
You'll have to post back with some news when you get it together.... I have a 165 that needs a new home.
thanks for the reply, i kinda figured it might support it, as the M8N Diamond does (accordingto the cpu support list) but MSI's site doesn't seem to have much info about the K8N Diamond plus, not even a single bios upgrade or anything.
I have an ASUS A8N32-SLI but i have 3 issues with it:
1) can't install vista 5270 - common problem, not just me
2) poor pci slot location when using 2 pci-express dual width gfx cards
3) only available pci slot shares an IRQ with 2nd gfx card, bad for sound cards
I was going to order one this weekend but i might just not bother now as someone else posted the xfi cards don't work with them (popping/crackling, just like i have now) and that was my main motivation for getting rid of my asus board as my xfi card doesn't work either.

Which PSU for MSI K8N Diamond Plus?

I am so frustrated ... I have spent over 6 hours trying to find out which power supplies I can use with the MSI K8N Diamond Plus.
I am not able to find any PSU that has 24 pin, 8 pin and 4 pin power connectors ... do you have to get them custom made or something? I am in Switzerland and it is hard to track these things down if you do not speak the language.
This is the page which I am using to try and find a compatible PSU:
http://www.stegcomputer.ch/browse.asp?cat=376
I think the Spire Rocketeer VI should work but am not sure.
Can anybody recommend a PSU that is compatible with this board? Please.

Quote from: russellmrgn on 27-March-06, 20:51:26
Off topic.
Kenito443,
I see you have the Stacker830, was looking at that case myself. How do you find it performance / quality wise?
Russell
Yeah i love it...the cooling is amazing, my case never goes above 30C and the cpu idles at 22c and never goes over 27C even when OC'd,.. granted i have substantial cooling for the cpu. the case is completely tool less and boasts a up to 9 12cm fans...the case is double encased Al so with a silent PSU (true 500W), which is my set up , it is extremely quiet. i was going to get the lian li until i saw both of them on display. the lian li seemed a little harder to set up for water cooling -if i wanted that option in the future, and the tool less feature for the cm stacker was a lot more appealing. Interestingly, it has its own proprietary hard drive noise reduction and cooling doohickey. Also, the mb has this cool pull out tray plus the PSU rail is really easy to accomadate for a larger PSU. the store where i bought it from in santa clara CA threw in some of these nice dust filters with the case and I was sold. the only con was the price, i paid around $230, which is a little expensive for a CM....oh and a word of warning , the case doesnt really look that big in pictures, but it is HUGE !! it has 10 5.25-inch bays..you can fit every single imaginable peripheral and still have room to fit your kitchen sink..i was definitely surprised to see how big it was in person.

When will MSI K8N Diamond Plus hit the street

I need this card badly and A.S.A.P as I've managed to fry my 875P Neo-FISR (PCB 2.0)
The press center section where this product is posted does not say.
Release the Power of X16 MSI K8N Diamond Plus Sallying

Quote from: fafner on 17-November-05, 22:51:34
Skippy, I hope you are right. Please send me a PM if u find it is available at newegg.....I want to get one as soon as they are available. Thanks.
OK... will do.
I'd think that it will appear really soon though for 1 really big reason -
Screwing up & missing out on any of the holiday shopping season would be like shooting themselves in the "financial foot". Especially when they have a competitor that currently has that particular market to themselves with a hot product. Can't let that happen.
That's just "Marketing 101"... and my "fearless prediction", for whatever that's worth LOL!

Does new Zalman CNPS8000 fit on MSI K8N Diamond Plus?

Was wondering about this, and if there would be issues with the height of the copper northbridge heatsink the MSI K8N diamond plus has.
Will this new CPU cooler fit or will it not like the other Zalman 7000 series?

TimeReaper,
I do not see why not:
Take Care,
Richard

4 year old MSI K8N Diamond Plus [MS-7220], best upgrade CPU

I built this system about 3 1/2 years ago. It has AMD 64 4000 San Diego. It still runs respectable, especially with new Radion 4850. My question is, what is the fastest CPU I can upgrade to, and is it worth while? Is the dual core a better choice than the single. Thanks for any advice.
MSI K8N Diamond Plus [MS-7220] AMD 64 4000 San Diego
2 GB DDR 400, Radeon 4850 1 GB
WD 320 GB SATA, Lite on 24x DVD

Quote from: Henry on 11-March-10, 12:41:52
It is to laugh Ha, Ha, I just sold an X2 4200+ on eBay Friday and it fetched $56 USD. That's only $20 less than I paid for it 2 or 3 years ago.
I've got an opteron 185 that I'll trade for a Big Bang Fuzion...

MSI K8N Diamond PLUS e AMD Opteron 185

Hi
I have a MSI K8N Diamond PLUS (bios v.1.2), from the website the AMD Opteron 180 2.4 GHz socket 939 is compatible with the board.
No compatibility info about the cpu AMD Opteron 185 2.6 GHz socket 939. These 2 cpu are very very similar (only different clock).
Do you know if it's really compatible with MSI K8N Diamond PLUS
Thanks in advance

It will work fine but isn't officially supported. Therefor post screen could show "unknown processor" but that's all.

MSI-K8N Diamond Plus - which memory?

Hello,
I will soon buy the K8N Diamond PLus motherboard. For that motherboard, I have selected the following memory: Corsair 512 Mo DDR-SDRAM PC3200 CMX Cas-2. But I can not find if this is ok for this type of motherboard. Does someone knows something about that? ???
Thx in advance!

Marlysa,
I would suggest that you stay away from the corsair xms ram as i figured the sme thing when I built my system, that it,s Corsair and its the #1 selected ram and usualy the most compatible, But this is not the case with this motherboard it's very picky about hardware pretty much the same as DFI board's!!!
Of course the CORSAIR WEBSITE will tell you this they want youre money!!!!!! Their certainly not going to reccomend OCZ MEMMORY that's for sure!!!!!
Please reconsider youre decision as I myself have traveled down that road you about to take. Personaly I love Corsair ram and i certainly wont bash it, but get the OCZ5002048ELGEGXT-K it cost me $213.00 wth tax for 2 gigs instead of $160.00 with tax for the corasir xms 2- 512 sticks Believe me you will be thankful that you took my suggestion!!!!! with the new 1.20 BIOS at optimized default's it posts and configures itself automatically where as befor you would usealy have to configure it manually in bios to get it to post at 500mhz believe me this OCZ MEMORY ROCKS!!!!
Save youreself alot of this.... BUY IT!!!!!!
Brother Esau
P.S just check around the forum their's alot of peop[le that have issues with the DIAMOND PUS AND CORSAIR RAM.

MSI 7220 (Diamond Plus) and 7800GT/7900GT issue

So I bought the Diamond Plus and the MSI NX7800GT a few weeks ago. Everything set up fine, no problems. I start playing some games, mostly City of Heroes/Villains, and I notice a graphics issue. Objects in the distance are "Z-fighting". It looks as if the Z-buffer's precision is low. I have tried AquaMark3 and I get the same issue, low z-buffer precision. So I sent the video card back, got an EVGA 7900GT. I still have the same exact issue, which never gets better/worse, the problem is always exactly the same. I have tried the card in both PCIe 16x slots and have done a full RAM test. Bios is 3.0A (no difference with 1.0 or 1.16)
Can anyone out there with this Mobo and a 7800GT or 7900GT run AquaMark3 (http://download.guru3d.com/aquamark3/) in demo mode. The demo starts out following a ship, in a few seconds you go up and over a tiny hill and see a vast scene in front of you. Off in the distance, do you see geometry intersecting in an odd way?
I've not noticed any problems in Quake4, Doom3 or 3Dmark, so maybe it's a DirectX only issue. This is extremely frustrating, because I can't imagine what the problem could be. System is completely stable and I have no other problems.
Thanks in advance if anyone out there tries the demo

Quote from: Grouse on 13-April-06, 00:53:42
OI,
As you can see from my sig i have a similar set up. I use antec PSU. The issues your talking about are Likely due to a combination of things not Just one.
First of all are you setting your nvid drivers to the game you are using instead of global settings.
Also what are your amp ratings on your PSU.
Also what are running in your back ground. How many processes?
Have you defragged that drive since your last install?
Have you run dxdiag?
are you using the latest dx version? One came out just recently.
I appreciate all the feedback guys, and as far as these questions, I have tried on 2 clean installs (winxp pro, and winxp x64), and have the same problem. Nothing else running whatsoever, everything updated, etc. It's got to be a hardware issue, and since it's a graphics problem that I've experienced with 2 cards, you guys must be right, it must not be getting enough power. I chose this PSU because Tom's Hardware used it in their test setup with this board (didn't realize it was such a sensative issue). I'll keep messing with it for another day or so. I'll be quite happy if it's just the PSU and I don't have to send the mobo in for replacement.
Thanks again

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