MOVED: MSI K8N NEO4-F IDE Problems

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Quote from: kakarocht on 16-May-06, 18:30:45
how about if you changed others IDE's cable any different? Also gives more details on your PSU especially on +12V!
Changed all cabels,
haven't a clue about power supply heres a link to it
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817148027
Could it be the crappy nforce 4 IDE drivers loads a people do be talkin about.

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Talannon
    Ok, one other I will add is I noticed a trend. If I start the computer I can usually go all the way and start windows installation but it will stop working right after I hit enter to actually start windows installation. If I reset it will always hang at the beginning and unable to even get into the BIOS...
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    Posted by: Talannon
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
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    Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
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    Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
    For now, for testing purposes, just leave one stick of Ram in the board, and do follow the instructions in the manual about where that single stick should be. As an example, some boards require that when you use a single stick, that it is in Dimm2, Dimm3, or even Dimm4 instead of Dimm 1. That feature is new to some who don't regularly build, so please check that out before you go too far.
    Manual says it should be in a green slot first which is dimm 1 and 3. I put it in dimm 1 ans it should be fine. The setup like it is now, is in the combination list in the manual.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ginger6
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    Kevin
    I've only run test with the ram installed separately...
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    So I tested the both ram at the same time but in single channel and no error.
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    Posted by: whodatknocking
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    humm I'm not sure what I should be looking for in the bios for that.
    If I put Timing mode in manual instead of auto I can change a bunch of thing. I have no idea what you mean by 3-4-4-8... There is something in that called CAS# latency (Tcl) which is by default at 2.5 but could change it to 2.0 or 3.0. Is that the voltage?
    Posted by: whodatknocking
    try 3
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    Posted by: Talannon
    changed nothing
    I guess I am to a point to check the cpu on another socket 939 MoBo to see if it's the cpu or the MoBo the problem. With everything we tried I start to doubt it could be anything else.

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