MOVED: MSI P35 Platinum + Vista x64, weird problems (random lockups) + unable to update

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Quote from: AaronYuri on 22-November-07, 03:28:52
Well it's simple. Use the BIOS that works best for you. Anyone here will tell you that.
Yeah, I didn't think on that...
Quote from: AaronYuri on 22-November-07, 03:28:52
This is a User-to-user Forum. You will find no MSI employees here.
It's really a shame, because the domain is from MSI, the forum use official MSI brand, the host is payed by MSI, so any moderator here is representing indirectly the company and MSI is responsible of all the forum content and his representatives.
Quote from: AaronYuri on 22-November-07, 03:28:52
EDIT: Just so you know, MSI don't go for bleeding edge. MSI go for the server and OEM market, where there is more money to be had. Asus, Gigabyte and DFI target the ethusiast market. But as ethusiasts only make up <5% of the market, your opinion won't sway that many.
Yes, you're right! Like any customer here I'm no one and nobody gives a about my opnion and my money wasted on a MSI product because the company only gives a on OEM market!
Wonderful tought! God bless you soul and from MSI.
I'll need it because only money it's the important, the company image not. Isn't that right?
Quote from: AaronYuri on 22-November-07, 03:28:52
But as for the rest, it's down to your opinion. I recommend all my customers MSI hardware, because you get quality support (this forum) and a fast & friendly RMA service.
A company is as good as it's support.
Wonderful support.
I imagine if I am a president of a big brazilian PC manufacturer, because the sells of computers in Brazil in that year beats any market in world, and then I see all this bullshit happening from MSI side, then I turn my attention on Gigabyte or Asus (they too act on OEM market and give more attention to your customers).

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And the LED3 lightis always RED.
I am unsure what to do at this point. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Hi all,
I just bought my MSI P35 platinum mobo and MSI NX8600GT graphics card.
Was trying to install XP on it. During installation, got the following error message :
A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.
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Quote from: NovJoe on 07-February-08, 00:17:44
Please post your full system specs and PSU specs amps.
Moan Guide
my system specs
Intel Pentium 4 - Intel E8200, LGA775 2.66GHz, 6MB L2 cache, 1333 Mhz FSB, 45nm
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rgds

Settings (kindly) requested for MSI P35 Platinum & Q6600 @ 3.6GHz/1600MHz fsb

I want to try to get my Q6600 processor up from 3.0 to 3.6 GHz, though I'd appreciate to get a clue to what settings might be the goal. I have little experience with overclocking, but I think 3.6GHz is a realistic goal.
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Q6600, been running at 3.0GHz the last 6 months by simlply upping the FSB
4x 2GB ddr2 800MHz Mushkin value ram
Initial settings:
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multiplier x9
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Being somewhat in a hurry, and being a newb, I tried getting the Q6600 to work at 3.6Ghz (400/1600MHz fsb, mult x9), but I couldnt make it stable with Prime95.
Lowering it down to 3.4Ghz seem to be really ok, and it has been stable for some time in Vista x64. Seems i can stick with this and mabye try to tweak it a little later.
I still would like to hear from anyone running the MSI P35 Platinum with Q6600 at 3.6 with air cooling, and learn about their voltages.
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MSI P35 Platinum keeps crashing

Hello!
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Regards,
Leo Torres

Quote from: drinkydoob16
So ill just leave them at 800mhz.
Should i just change the FSB Ratio to lower the RAM to 800MHZ?
Leo,
Use the BIOS default settings.
Your DDR2 modules with 5-5-5-15 at 1.85-1.9V (the default DDR2 voltage on MSI mobos) are running at 800MHz.
And that's because they're DDR2-800 ...
Do not mess up the FSB. INTEL E6750 is a great processor.
You need stability, not troubles!
Quote from: JASen
i have the same problem, but with WINTEC AMPX 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) 5-5-5-15 v2.2
The same situation: you bought a pair of factory-overclocked DDR2-800 memory modules.
cheers

Msi P35 platinum: bios auto-raises NB & SB voltages when fsb over 316

Why does this happen when I'm overclocking FSB in bios and reaching over 316, NB voltage goes 1.250V->1.450V and SB I/O Power 1.5V->1.8V automatically. Both are in red text after this.
Of course, I can try to lower these settings back to normal but never tried.. I've just left these raised voltage settings because everything is running fine (now E2140@2816MHz,352FSB). But are these settings safe (NB 1,45V and SB I/O 1,8V) ??
I know that raising NB voltage is necessary when raising up FSB but SB I/O Power voltage?
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Please help me

this is probably due to overclock jumper's setting for FSB STRAP(200/266/333).
With my Neo 2 Fr (pretty similar) about the same happen to me but at 382...then I moved the jumper to the 333 setting (see manual) and no more change in voltage of NB and SB over 382.
If you do so, be careful on your setting before the change of position of the jumper as it automaticaly add 67 mhz to the FSB and so the system may not start because of too high cpu freq. Be careful also on memory multiplier (before the change set it to 1:1 or calculate the ram freq. (FSB+67 mhz and your memory multiplier)) as the system may not start because of the RAM.
However even if it not start after 2-3 reboot it start in safe mode(as after OC) and you can change the settings.
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Always remember what said over about the +67 mhz on FSB when you move the jumper!!!!

MSI P35 Platinum EEPROM

Hi, I need some information urgently. My friend owns the Asus M4A79 Deluxe motherboard. I'ts about 2 weeks old now, and he tried to mod his BIOS. It failed, because he didn't follow my precise instructions. Now, he has nothing more than a piece of paper, it's dead.
Is there anyone that can tell me where I can find the EEPROM of my MSI P35 Platinum motherboard? Where is the EEPROM located on the MS-7345 motherboard? I know it'll be an 8-pin IC, which is soldered to the board.
My idea is to do a hotflash, i want to desolder my BIOS chip & solder a IC holder to the board, then, use my mobo as an EEPROM Programmer. I don't want to disasemble my whole PC just to find out that the EEPROM is integrated in the chipset, so if possible, can anyone tell me wheter the MSI P35 Platinum has an EEPROM located on the board & where exactly can I find it?

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I was wondering, isn't it possible to connect his BIOS chip to my motherboard's JSPI1 connector & program it from there?
I highly doubt that. But even if that was possible, how would you want to establish communication from (let's say) DOS to whatever you connect to the JSPI1 header?
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but it's not 100% straight forward, I'll have to read up on this.
I am sure, you will figure it out.
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Also, I'll build the LPT circuit as soon as I have time, but with which tool will I reprogram the chip with?
Oh, you will definately find it, once you do some reading (there are direct links to it in the articles I pointed you to). However, here is a link to the English Download Site of the Czech Programmer that made it:
http://www.volny.cz/rayer/programm/programe.htm
Scroll down until you see a tool called SPIPGM in the list.
When I used the an older version of the tool (after building the described SPI Cable) to reprogram the BIOS Chip of my P45 Platinum after a bad flash, the tool did not entirely support the chip yet (Macronix MX25L3205 in my case). However, it was able to detect it anyway (FlashROM JEDEC ID: EF3016h) and when it does not know its size it will simply prompt you to enter it.
An additional alternativ, which may actually be the fastest way to fix things, would be to simply order a new chip and have it programmed for you with a working BIOS Image. I don't know where you live and what places there are near you that offer this kind of service. Over here in Germany, I know at least one place that does this kind of stuff:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bios-fix.de%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct_info.php%3FcPath%3D1_28%26products_id%3D139
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I was considering to use an old ATi Graphics Card as an EEPROM Programmer, since it also has an 8-pin EEPROM with the exact same pinout. The hardware is not problem, I can quickly assemble it, but the software would be the problem, ATi's tools wont program an 8-megabit (1 megabyte) BIOS chip?
Another thing, the LAN ROM of the P35 Platinum, that can also be used?
No idea, never tried that nor have I ever thought about it.
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1.) The 3.3V are connected to 3 pins (WP, Vcc & HLD)
Yep.
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2.) There are 4 resistors, 150-ohm? or is it 150-kohm?
150 Ohm

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so my question is: can i put the graphics card in the YELLOW slot? Cause it won't fit in the upper PCI... Thanks

Quote from: Jack on 03-September-11, 19:12:09
Why doesn't it fit? It should fit without problems.
Because of the I/O controller (i think this is it...)
Quote from: Jack on 03-September-11, 19:12:09
You can do that, however, in that slot, the video card will only get x4 lanes assigned to it (instead of x16 lanes in the primary PCI-Express slot).
And what difference does this make?

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It felt like a lot of pressure, just make sure your two notches are lined up and grunt like a man.

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Any other comments? Thx.
Scott

Quote from: jsmartin22 on 10-June-07, 22:12:51
Good suggestion; I was unaware of the SilenX Fans, but I reviewed and get the idea--they are excellent for low noise applications, and this is exactly what I want! Thx.
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For those who don't know the Antec P180/P182 has the PSU in a separate chamber at the bottom of the case so it can chuck the cpu's heat straight out of two 120mm fans in top and rear. There is also a 3rd 120mm fan in lower chamber blowing onto the PSU. All three Antec fans are fitted with HI-Med-Low switches. I find Low to be good.
120mm fans push a decent amount of air on low RPM and are much quieter than 90mm.
There is room to fit two more of your own fans on the Upper HD cage. One to draw air in from the front of the case and one that blows straight on the graphics card. If you use both at once it creates a wind tunnel but means you cannot use it for hard drives. Although you could just fit the front fan and have it blow across your HD. I have my disks in the lower chamber to keep their heat away from the motherboard, and have done the wind tunnel option.
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Inside,
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