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ok you have missed some helpful information we could use to see if something is wrong like your parts list >>Posting Guide<< and be specific as it will help us work it out!
is the computer in the case or outside the case (always suggest that people try the parts outside the case on a non conductive surface (untreated wood or cardboard) to rule out a short under the board coming from the case<--- I do that every build so I can make sure if everything is ok before putting it in a case as its a pain if something is defective and you have to rip it all back out again)?

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MSI Z87-G45 Question

So for the past 2 months I've been looking for an answer for this little problem of mine, I'm sure it's something I'm doing wrong but anyways here's the problem: I just built a new PC, nothing super fancy but it is my first PC build. The first mobo I used was the ASUS A55BM-K and a one 4gb stick of RAM. I grounded my self and started building, CPU, MOBO, GPU, PSU, etc. Then I turned it on, the lights flashed and fans began to spin, but no display on my monitor. Everywhere I checked suggested many things which I did then I did last resort and figured I burned out my mobo or RAM, so I purchased the MSI Z87-G45 gaming mobo and 2x2gb GSkill sticks of RAM. Connected everything and no avail. Please can someone help?

ok you have missed some helpful information we could use to see if something is wrong like your parts list >>Posting Guide<< and be specific as it will help us work it out!
is the computer in the case or outside the case (always suggest that people try the parts outside the case on a non conductive surface (untreated wood or cardboard) to rule out a short under the board coming from the case<--- I do that every build so I can make sure if everything is ok before putting it in a case as its a pain if something is defective and you have to rip it all back out again)?

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Quote from: Svet on 31-May-15, 18:05:32
you say recently, does this mean it was working fine before?
can you test this headset in another computer?
Yes it was working just fine before, this issue started happening a couple of weeks ago but I've had this setup for almost a year now.
I also don't readily have access to another computer to try it out on and testing it on another computer would be a bit of an issue because this only happens like once or twice a day after long hours of gaming.
Quote from: darkhawk on 31-May-15, 18:36:48
That's about the only relevant information I could find regarding this issue.
I would try the headset out on another computer. This would allow you to verify if the headset is the problem, or if the motherboard/USB ports are the problem.
I've checked out the link and my gamecoms were also configured for 5.1 surround sound, I reconfigured it to 7.1 surround sound so hopefully this is the solution. Also again I don't readily have access to another computer to test this out.
Hopefully this fixes it, thank you both for the replies and I will update you if the problem goes away or if it still occurs.

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One size never fits all. Maybe his ambient is very high. Maybe the case cooling, TIM, or CPU cooler isn't as good as it could be. Maybe the CPU is overclocked with power saving disabled. Maybe the OP wants the fans to run 100% at idle and low use. An 'ideal' setting is the one the OP chooses for his system. He now knows how to do it, so the choices are his on how to fine tune the fan settings.

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That is one reason this is driving me crazy, I have made sure that the 160GB drive is primary in the boot process. Is there anything else you can think of that may be causing this?

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Used hardware
MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G (+ RMA'ed new one)
Gigabyte 670 GTX Windforce
MSI Z87-G45 Gaming motherboard (with Intel i7-4770K, Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB, and Crucial M500 - 480GB SSD)
Asus P5N32-E with Q6600 and 8GB DDR2 (Going to test this)
SoundBlaster-Z Audio card
Roccat Kave 5.1 Gaming Headphones (4x 3.5 mm jacks: Front, Rear, Center&bass, Microphone + USB amp/volume control)
Corsair B600 (600W) PSU (secondary)
Corsair RM750 (750W) PSU (Primary)
To summarize
Corsair RM750 + MSI Z87-G45 + Gigabyte GTX 670 + Roccat Kave = really faint noise only when scrolling in browser, in game not heard
Corsair RM750 + MSI Z87-G45 + MSI GTX 970 + Roccat Kave = in game loud and heavy noise + screech when scrolling in browser
Corsair RM750 + MSI Z87-G45 + MSI GTX 970 + Soundblaster-Z + Roccat Kave = In game moderate to heavy noise
Corsair B600 + MSI Z87-G45 + MSI GTX 970 + Soundblaster-Z + Roccat Kave = In game weak to moderate noise
Corsair B600 + MSI Z87-G45 + MSI GTX 970 + Soundblaster-Z + Roccat Kave with Mic disconnected = Almost no noise, ifg you listen for it, really faint background noise in game. But well within my acceptable limits.
Tomorrow I'll try:
Corsair B600 + MSI Z87-G45 (onboard sound) + MSI GTX 970 + Roccat Kave without mic
Corsair RM750 + Asus P5N32-E (onboard sound) + MSI GTX 970 + Roccat Kave with mic
I failed to mention, that the first thing I did was to remove my HD Audio Front panel connector off its header.
So I did some more searches. The noise has something to do with the capacitors on (presumably) the video card. The higher the pitch usually coincides with higher FPS. So the interference must be coming from the video card, as this is the last thing added and probably the main cause.
Both the motherboard & the SoundBlaster-Z pick up the EMI/RF interference. (I am disappointed by the SoundBlaster about this).
I'll test with the older motherboard and see how I proceed from there.

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I also have a MSI Z87 G45 motherboard.
I tried 1 working RAM module in all 4 sockets while testing and my memory only works in the 2 sockets closest to the CPU. I get no display when putting RAM in the other sockets.
I have 4x4GB DDR3-2400 modules, Kingston HyperX Anniversary (KHX24C11X3K4/16X).
I also tried the flash the BIOS to the latest but no improvements.
I got older Kingston HyperX (DDR3-1866) that do work in the other sockets.
Do I need to configure my BIOS first before inserting the RAM in those sockets?

MSI Z87-G45 Super Raid setup questions

I have a MSI Z87-G45 board and two SSD's. I have never setup raids before but plan to do so. I saw there is a app to install for Super Raid. I thought I had to setup raid before installing windows? Seeing the app is something I can download from the MSI Live Update app it makes me think I can setup this up after windows has been installed. Is this correct?
If not how do I go about setting up Raid? I don't mind reinstalling windows if I need to. I did not see raid options in the Bios.
Thank you

I bet that mSATA is controlled By that same controller and so you cant use some of your SATA port same time as you use those mSATA cards, SSDs,...
To need to get in BIOS and change to RAID makes it kinda HW RAID and so that "Best Solution" is kinda wrong. As you can format it in current Windows, but you need to reg edit before or you get Blue Screen and so cant get in OS.
You have had allways chanse to use diffrent drives like HDD's and SSD's in mix When they have same data cable like SATA. The speed and size, go like allways higer rules.
I need to read more in to this Super RAID. But i ges you arent in useing mSATA, so use it like normal HW RAID and get real intel drives for it (in USB stick) before os install and install them on screen you choose your drive. That way you dont need to update them after install
Have great Hollydays! Cheers Mummy

MSI Z87 G45 GAMING erratic BSOD/freeze @ 2300, stable @1600. Can't solve.

Hi All,
I would welcome some advice. I am about 4 months into a new machine build:
* MSI Z87 G45 GAMING motherboard
* i7-4770K Haswell 3.5 GHz & aftermarket heatpipe cooler
* 4 x 4Gb G.Skill SNIPER DDR3-2133 PC3-1700 (F3-17000CL11D-8GBSR)
* GeForce GTX 650 Ti w/ 2 Gb Video RAM
* Samsung 840 Pro 256 Gb SSD
* Thermaltake 700W Toughpower
* Win 7 Pro 64-bit SP1
The system seems to run fine at the default 1600 MHz RAM speed, however if I implement either of the X.M.P. profiles (which kick the memory speed up to the RAM's advertised speed of 2133 MHz), the system will occasionally (every 8 to 48 hours) freeze or BSOD. The BSOD stop codes are inconsistent in number (0x00, 0x41, 0x1E, 0xC4) and driver. When the system freezes, there is no consistent behavior. I am not doing any other overclocking besides using the X.M.P. profile in the memory.
RAM timing on the 2133 X.M.P. profile is: 11-11-11-30.
I have updated the BIOS to 1.5, including the ME, and updated all drivers in the system. All irrelevant hardware and drivers are disabled. Also I have done the following:
* MemTest+ 5.01 for over 30 hours, all 4 sticks in. No errors.
* Intel BurnTest on 'Very High', 10 passes, no errors
* Prime95 for over day with 90 C CPU temps constantly being hit. No errors.
* Unigine Valley Benchmark for 30 minutes; no issues
I increased V_DRAM from 1.60V (from the XMP profile) to 1.65V, and I also added +0.10V offset to increase the CPU I/O ANALOG , CPU I/O DIGITAL and SYSTEM AGENT voltages. Didn't seem to help. All other CPU voltages are default from [auto].
I rolled the memory speed back to the default 1600 MHz, and the system seems stable as a rock.
I don't really need to have the memory run at 2133 MHz, but it irks me that the system is not stable with the rated components, and I'm befuddled why the stress tests seem to pass just fine, then the system will randomly hang with arguably a far less demanding load than the stress tests.
Note that I have not yet:
* reset the CMOS when changing to X.M.P. Perhaps I should?
* reseated the graphics card or CPU. The latter will require R/R of the thermal grease, which I will do if needed, but it's a pain. Since the system is stable at 1600 MHz, I assumed that all basic systems are working as they should.
* Tried to work my way up in memory speed step by stem from 1600 to 2133 to see where things fall apart.
* Tested the video memory
I suspect main system memory, despite the clean bill of health from MemTest, and based on many of the comments to others with similar problems from the veterans on this board. I don't want to push the CPU voltages too much above the default/auto values, for fear of damage and reduced lifetime.
Also, the power supply is a nice unit from an older high-end gaming rig. It is rated at 700W. The PS does probably have over 30,000 hours on it (24/7 use for 3-4 years), however. Strange that it would work at 1600 MHz fine, and with only slightly more power load at 2133. I suppose stranger things have happened.
I've read the suggestions to run only 2 sticks, rather than 4, but I can't justify dropping $140 on new memory (I don't really need the extra speed benefit, it's more curiosity and just not knowing at this point).
Anyway, perhaps more seasoned souls than I can share their thoughts. The system is perfectly usable at 1600, but I'd really like to know where the lockups are stemming from. Troubleshooting is maddening because of the inconsistency in the long times before failure and lack of repeatability to reproduce the issue.
Thanks in advance for your time.
-Paul

Thank you both for the prompt replies. I'm learning a lot.
Turns out I also found this from G.SKILL in going over reviews of the memory modules I have. Another user had a similar configuration as mine and was having similar problems. G.SKILL replied:
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We are sorry to hear you were unable to get two kits working in the same system. It is not guaranteed two kits can operate at the rated specifications since they were not pre-matched, tested, and guaranteed at factory. With multi-channel motherboards, perfectly matching memory is necessary to achieve high frequency. This is why we must offer high capacity 32GB, 64GB kits, otherwise we can just sell one module at a time and have you purchase as many as you need. Unfortunately, memory does not work that way. If you purchase a 16GB kit rated at DDR3-2133, you should have absolutely no issues. For any further questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us directly for assistance.
Thank you
GSKILL SUPPORT
Not knowing any better, I simply purchased two "kits" of 2x4 GB each and installed them. Perhaps worse, if the modules were matched, I may well have mixed them up so the matched modules don't even sit in the same channels 1/3 or 2/4. G.SKILL seems to have a pretty responsive board, so I'll ask them what they suggest.
Also in the end, I really just want a stable machine. This is a basically an office/engineering machine. My initial thinking was that if the system was unstable at 2133 then there is something wrong with it that needs to be fixed. It sounds instead like getting to 2133 is not guaranteed, and is much more of an art than simply throwing the modules in and powering up the system.
I'm perfectly happy at 1600 knowing the system is stable. Indeed realizing now that 2133 requires overclocking, I may well have backed off to 1600 even if everything had worked just fine at 2300, just to trade extra stability for the (small) performance improvement that I would likely never notice anyway.
I'll put together a post for the G.SKILL forums, and if I get anything useful I'll post what I learn here for completeness.
Thanks again for the fast and informative replies. It's much appreciated.
Best,
-Paul

MSI Z87 G45 + MSI R9 280X + Windows 8.1 secure boot difficulties

After updating to Windows 8.1 Pro I had the "Secure Boot isn't configured properly" watermark as many others. I determined my disk is GPT partitioned, I enabled UEFI on the GPU by moving the physical switch from the 2 position to the 1 position, and enabled Windows 8 Feature + Secure Boot with standard settings in the G45 bios (ver 1.5). After doing save and reboot I'm presented with a blank screen with my monitor showing a "DVI no input" message. I reset the CMOS to allow me to boot again, but after a couple more tries with the secure boot settings such as enabling/disabling Fast Boot I have not been able to get it to work.
System:
MSI Z87 G45
8GB DDR3 1600mhz Crucial ram
I5-4670k
MSI R9 280X
Samsung 840 SSD 250gb
Asus cd/dvd drive

I want to know the same thing. I bought a MSI Z87-G45 Gaming motherboard this month and I can't activate Secure Boot on it because it's still in Setup Mode. I have no idea how to put the motherboard into User Mode and Google doesn't help me much further either. How to activate a key? I have a I5-5670K and GTX 770 by the way.

MSI Z87-G45 Audio Boost color LED

On my MSI Z87-G45 I was wondering if anyone knew how to turn off the LED behind the plate of the Audio Boost logo. I disabled the sound card in the BIOS but seen no option on disabling that LED. I guess it is only a minor issue but the pink/purple light is really messing up my Red and Black theme. If there is an option to make it glow red that would be perfect but it kinda looks like the plate is just turning the white LEDs behind it pink.
Also this may be a question for another thread but I think I'm safe in assuming that my X-Fi Titanium PCI-X would be better audio then the onboard, correct?

Quote from: blackhaven on 12-August-13, 11:30:06
I'm safe in assuming that my X-Fi Titanium PCI-X would be better audio then the onboard, correct?
Yes, that's why I have one on my Z77.

MSI Z87-G45 + Razer Megalodon

Hi guys n gals of msi, before we get down to it, yes there are topics about this and ive searched trough them but cant find a definitive answer.
So here it goes, im using a MSI Z87-G45 with my lovely razer megalodons, and heres my issue, i can get sound, and my microphone to work, but not at the same time, if i lets say use skype, it will mute my microphone, letting me hear what my partner says, but if i use spotify, i cant then use the voice recorder to record my voice, but if i dont use neither, i can start recording my voice, but then i cant turn music on.
I dont know what has caused this, ive recently upgraded my motherboard, and did a fresh install, worked fine until i went trough and installed all of the latest drivers etc, and now i have this issue, dont know if i shall just kiss my razers goodbye and go back to my old siberia v2.
Anyone ever heard of this issue before, or how to solve it, googling or searching didnt give any answers at all, ask any questions and ill try to answer them asap
tyvm before hand / rob

All you can do is flash the bios to the latest version and update all the drivers to the latest.
>> BIOSes<<
Also update the firmware of the Razer equipment.
If nothing you need to contact MSI and Razer.
>>How to contact MSI.<<
I'll check for any newer releases.
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I can only conclude the USB 2 implementation on this Motherboard is dodgy.
That is a quite an assumption, it would be one thing if it wouldn't work at all or would for instance cut in and out. Perhaps if devices other than Razer products had this many issues I would come to the same. I have used Razer gear on all kinds of equipment and usually have had some quirks. (I love Razer gear btw, BUT THEY CAN BE A PAIN IN THE BUTT) This sounds much more like a driver issue, is this windows 8?

ALC1150 16k band equalizer bug! (MSI Z87-G45)

Hi all,
I know this would be better to report on Realtek forums, but this problem applies to all of you with ALC1150 chipset and who are using equalizer - maybe also other chipsets. Maybe also MSI stuff will be interested in solving this issue as it is rather annoying issue. Here's the description of the problem I've also sent to Realtek technical support (no answer from them yet). Please let me know if you can repeat this issue. Thx
Dear Realtek support,
I have noticed a quiet annoying problem with your graphics equalizer and I would like to report the problem. Would be great if you could localize the problem and fix the issue. I suppose it would be only a trivial thing which can be fixed fast.
Here are my system specs:
OS: Windows 8 64bit
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 (ALC1150)
Drivers: Realtek R2.71
The problem:
There is a problem with 16k band only. Other bands works fine.
Use Case:
1. Let's say I want to use value 12 for extra heights. I set the slider to 12 and play the song.
2 Value is ignored at the beginning, instead value 0 is used even though the slider still shows 12. If I move the slider let's say to 11 (music is still playing) the change is reflected immediately and everything works fine.
3. But only until I stop the song and play it again or play another song. This is really weird behaviour So seems the band registers changes only if the sound is playing and when there is no sound input it reset the band for 16k to 0 (please note that system still show previously set value - in my case 12, but it is just ignored)
So actually 16k band is quiet unusable as it still reset its value to zero when the sound stops.
You can easily simulate the behaviour like this:
1. Reset equalizer to flat and set only 16k band to max. (12)
2. Play some music. You can immediately hear there is no sound change, even you have set 16k band to max.
3. Move slider to 11 during the music plays. You can hear the change now...
4. Stop the music, restart the music player and play the music again.
5. Flat equalizer (16k = 0) is used again, but the slider shows 11.
Could you please have a look at this issue and inform me if you can repeat it ? If there are further questions, don't hesitate to contact me. Would be great if this issue could be fixed because the equalizer is really great in all other aspects.
Thanks a lot,
Michal

New finding... If I open some music in Music player (Windows 8) and then set in on pause (still running on background) and switch to desktop and play the same song in media player, 16k band settings is remembered. This is really weird but works as a temp solution until fix is out. Maybe this issue is only Windows 8 related, I really don't have an idea but I got this idea once I've played Saints Row 4 and there were no engine sounds. Then I open some music file and set in on pause on background and suddenly, the sounds were back. I would say there is something wrong in windows or what...

MSI Z87-G45 Gaming, sound from USB mouse?

Hi!
I have some issue from my new computer, see spec below.
For the information I have a MSI Z87-G45 motherboard.
I have some sound that occurs sometimes (specially during the first 2-5 minutes) when i move the mouse around.
It occurs as well sometimes when I been using the computer for a while, basically random just more frequently at the start-up.
It's hard to know from where the sound occurs, could be PSU but today I read something on another forum about the motherboard I'm using:
- Higher sound quality using USB, thanks to special adapted current power.
So i wounder if this can be the case? Is that the reason why i get this noise from inside the computer?
Is there some way to disabled this "feature" in BIOS?
Greetings
|Asus 24" LED VG248QE 144HZ (2st) | EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB PhysX CUDA | Intel Core i5-4670K | MSI Z87-G45 Gaming, Socket-1150 | Corsair SSD Force Series GS 240GB 2.5" | Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl | Crucial DDR3 BallistiX Tactical 16GB | Corsair TX 850W PSU | Noctua NH-U14S CPU Kylare | CM Storm QuickFire TK Keyboard Brown | Ace Laser Gaming Mouse EDGE 3200 | QPAD XXXL |

The sound sounds like the old mechanics hdd kinda.
It comes inside the computer, not the speakers.
My feelings is that it can be the PSU as well, just wanted to check this first, since it most often comes when i move my mouse.

Is MSI Z87-G45 compatible with Be Quiet Dark Rock 3 and TridentX ?

Hello,
I have a MSI Z87-G45 and 2 DDR3 TridentX (from 40 mm tall without heatspreader to 53mm with it) in dual channel mode.
I'd like to mount a Be Quiet Dark Rock 3 with rear air extraction, front heatsink fan, and my DDR3 in dual channel mode (slot 2 and 4). Is it compatible or will I encounter clearance issue with DDR3 ?
Thanks

I bought the Dark Rock 3 from Be Quiet and I confirm that it is perfectly compatible with both TridentX and MSI Z87-G45 but we have to sacrifice the DDR's first slot (2, 3 and 4 still available).

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