MOVED: Neo2 plat +a64 +ocz Vx divider problem.

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i don't use air cooling but water.
Problem is that i can hit 9x300 but with 1:2 divider , so my memory run FSB 150 ... and as far i know tihs is problem
with neo2 (divider 200 and 100 is full stable)
i'm asking why this Mobo has problem with Divider and vx or bh-5 memory , perhaps someone can answer...

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Neo2 plat +a64 +ocz Vx divider problem.

Hi!
My config:
neo2 plat mobo bios 1.37B -> can hit 300htt easly.
a64 3000+ -> can hit 9x300 easly.
2x512 Ocz Vx ram i can hit FSB ~260 with 2-2-2-11 1:1
Problem:
if i run 100 or 200 divider all i ok, but when i put 133 or 166 divider i can't but pass ~250 htt whatever
what ram timings or voltage , several ppl have similar issue with dividers on this board.
Msi team do you know fix for this issue ??
Tnx for all help

i don't use air cooling but water.
Problem is that i can hit 9x300 but with 1:2 divider , so my memory run FSB 150 ... and as far i know tihs is problem
with neo2 (divider 200 and 100 is full stable)
i'm asking why this Mobo has problem with Divider and vx or bh-5 memory , perhaps someone can answer...

K8N Neo2 Plat - WinXP SP2 IEEE 1394 Problem???

I use the k8n Neo2 Platinum with a Athlon 64 3500+ cpu
I installed WinXP with SP1 an everything was and worked ok (there was a VIA OHCI IEEE 1394 Compilant Controller and a IEEE 1394 net adapter)
When I upgraded to WinXP SP2 there was no IEEE 1394 net adapter any more, but the controller in the Device Manager was ok. Sometimes thought if i uninstall the controller an do a check for new hardware changes the controller appears with a Code 10 error, but when WinXP starts no problem appears in the Device Manager...????
Please help i need the Firewire connection to plug my VideoCamera.
If there is any driver for the IEEE 1394 please email or PM me the url.
thanx Nick
PS. If i arrange the devices by connection type no IRQ conflict seems to exists.
Sorry for the "english" but i'm from greece.
Please help....

I manage to make the IEEE 1394 Net adapter appear.
I changed every file that is about ieee1394 of SP2 with the SP1 files but before i restart i renamed sp2.cab (into hidden folder) file because if any change happens it restores the original files on restart. Now both IEEE1394 Controller and Net Adapter appear into the Device Manager but when i connect any device into firewire port is not recognized. I tried my camcoder to another pc with WinXP SP2 and when i connect it a ballon appears and sain that a Digital Device is connected. To my PC nothing happens.

Scared to get a Neo2 Plat with all the problems here!

I plan on getting a Neo2 Plat, but scared from all these problems that people are asking about...I dont want problems :(

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kweckstrom I'm still a little confused you claim to have been building computers since computers were practically invented but you coulden't figure out how to get a new 939 board up and running reliably?? It's really not that hard.. not like the P90 (the pentium that didn't run)
1 you check for compatability,
2 you buy your parts,
3 you put it together..
4 it runs.
First of all, you should read an entire post before replying. You must not have read it, because I obviously DID figure it out.
If you look at the compatibility list for the MSI board, it's abysmal. They test VERY few modules, and they haven't tested anything newer. Newer modules (like the newer Corsair XL's or Micron Ballistix) remain untested, and aren't likely to BE tested "officially". The Corsair 3200LLPT's worked fine in my P4 rig. They worked fine on the Gigabyte 939 NF3 board. One can reasonably expect that they would have worked fine on the MSI, after all it's the same chipset.
But no, they didn't. Not even after upgrading my power supply. Yet if I slap all this stuff together on the gigabyte board, all was fine and dandy, even on a PS that only delivered 18A on +12v.
When I tried out the ballistix, I ran into even worse problems, even after ignoring SPD and upping voltage to it's rated 2.8v. But after upgrading my Power Supply, those problems went away and the system is now rock solid and stable.
I'm an older guy with a wife and 2 kids, not to mention a full-time career as a network engineer. I don't have tons of nights and weekends to work through nagging compatibility or stability issues. That's why I say I wouldn't put myself through that mess again.
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If your buying enthousiast grade parts expect to do a little research first because it's a fact there are more untested parts and there will be some incompatabilities but it's absolutely no different than any intel platform of the same age..
Maybe you should have had someone with a little more time and skill build a system for you??
Then you may have been able to aviod these PEBCAK errors lol
Taking the high road, I see
You should actually read my post next time. I solved the problem long ago. I'm simply saying that this platform is an annoying one because there are tons of incompatibilities that lead to stability issues. That's fact, and you aren't much of an engineer if you dispute it.
What you say about intel systems of the same age is completely untrue. You'd have a hard time finding an intel board that's incompatible with DDR2 by any specific vendor. You'd also have a hard time finding any intel boards that have quirks with PCI Express cards. You'll also have a hard time finding any Power Supply compatibilities with LGA775, because a specific type of power supply is required (dual-rail with PCI-E headers). Sorry, you're wrong here.
On the Athlon64-939, out of the gate you'll have problems with certain hardware.
Take the Geforce 6800's.... The 6800's don't require 2D and 3D clock speeds to be identical on a P4 system. The bios by default doesn't normalize clock speeds for 2d and 3d, because a 425mhz 2D core value uses power needlessly and doesn't make much sense. But if you're on the Nforce3 platform, you're FORCED to set them identically or your 3d games will stutter and eventually freeze.
There's people with issues on Nforce3 using Fast Writes. Some people have to disable them. You simply don't need to do this on intel.
There's people with issues using Audigy cards (the original Audigy 1). They cause BSOD's. This doesn't happen on Intel systems. They work fine there. (Audigy 2 is unaffected).
If someone's doing research into problems regarding the Athlon64 platform, i'm not going to blow sunshine up everyone's butt. I'm going to tell it like it is. I'm not married to any specific vendor, and i'm not someone who's going to insult someone's system building or research skills because he ran into problems with his latest build.
These problems are VERY real, and if you read this board it's LOADED with people who are having issues with stability. You shouldn't be quick to blame their research or skill with a screwdriver.

K8N neo2 Plat problem with Inno3D 7600GS AGP, help pls...

Just got the new Inno3d 7600GS AGP card, after installed & while booting up my monitor keep going off and on then suddenly just went off...sometime system freeze when it reach deskstop.
Sometime lucky enough it will still there and the next few minute the system just freeze.
After several attemp & no choice, I unplug the power to the graphic card and the problem still exist.
I am using a HEC 350W PSU.
I change back to my old ati9200se card & no problem at all.
I changed to skyhawk 430W still same problem. even I boot up to safe mode still the same. Only time the monitor wouldn't go off untill it pass the winXP logo then the problem appear.
I got no problem when go to CMOS as well.
Already perform uninstall previous video driver, update latest nforce driver....all no use.
K8N Neo2 Plat
HEC 350W
2 harddisk (1 SATA & 1 IDE)
Any idea guys?
Thanks

What are your PSU amp for the +12V? What bios version are you using right now? Tried to disable the fast write in the Bios? Gd luck.

K8n Neo2 Plat Audio problem

Of course, no one in this forum has had the audio problem that I have, so here I go.
I just installed the Neo2 Plat. Only card im using is the video card. I get no audio. I use the s/pdif ports only. I can use either the optical or coax, but i need to use one of those 2 only. The only way I can make my spkrs make a sound is by setting the spkr config to 7.1 and that only gets me sound out of the front 2 spkrs.
I have the Klipsch Pro Media 5.1 with their Dolby Digital Decoder. I have a 2nd computer hooked up to this, hence why I need to use a 1 cable audio solution. I know everything else works, b/c everything was working fine when I was on my Abit NF7-s, and the sound works fine from the other machine.
My audio source was not a 2ch source. I was using the auido test, and 3d demo test in the realtek software. If i choose the 5.1 setup, i get no sound at all from any spkr. but if i choose 7.1, when i run the tests, only the front left and front right spkrs get sound.
I havent tried the realtek drivers yet from their site, so far Ive only used the MSI provided drivers from live driver.
I have another problem, with the Gart driver freezing the system at the Win XP loading screen, but Ill save that for another post. But if u know what I'm talking about, and know a solution and/or forum link, feel free.

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Originally posted by Minivan
going to try the nforce beta drivers
going to ignore JER101 because is an idiot who doesnt bother to read a forum post b4 blurting out advice that basically calls me an idiot
Him
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"The sound worked with my NF7-S". You have a problem! That has the soundstorm APU with hardware dolby digital encoder - hence 5.1 support from a single SPDIF connection. Havn't you heard of the complains about Nvidia ditching the soundstorm APU?
Me
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My audio source was not a 2ch source. I was using the auido test, and 3d demo test in the realtek software.
will reply with beta nforce results
Did I call you an idiot? No! I was informing you of why you can't get 6 channels down a single SPDIF WITHOUT dolby (or DTS) encoding. As far as I am concerned this is a well know fact everyone accepted PRIOR to the arrival of the soundstorm APU. Selecting 6 channels and testing them works with the analogue outputs, just because the test is there dosn't mean Dolby encoding is present and you can get 6 channels down the SPDIF!
Here is a link where a solution to losing soundstorm dolby encoding is discussed:-
http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53402&sid=
I know you won't read all of it since your convinced you don't have this problem (i'm the same when I'm convinced I'm right), so here is a link to the software which fix's the problem you don't have:-
http://acidbao.free.fr/isoft/dlpage.php?prog=DolbyOutDS
What, a solution to a problem you don't have! Yes, and if you havn't botherd to read this post you will have missed it!

A few K8N Neo2 Plat problems

Just getting this new rig up and going K8N Neo2 Plat with a 3200 Winchester 90nm CPU and 1GB (2x512) OCZ PC3200 Plat. rev2. My memory is not showing to be running in Dual Channel. and Sandra bandwidth is horrible to say the least. I have flashed to the latest bios that MSI has on the site, are their any better ones? I see some people running different versions of 1.3 bios, where are they? I have two Barracuda 80Gb S-ATA set up on #3-4 Sata connectors too in Raid (0).

Skeen, Duke is right. I have the same memory and you MUST use slot 1&2 for dual channel support. Look inthe manual on the page about memory. It gives 2 charts. The first one is for dual channel memory and the second one is for normal memory. Also I did a Sandra test that is somwhere here in the forums where I posted the results with 1&2 and 3&4 and 1&2 was slightly faster. Use them (the ones closest to the CPU).

RMA and still same problems! (Neo2 Plat)

I was having the system shut down over night problem where nothing woudl turn on, no fans on anything, not even the powersupply. So I tested my Powersupply on a friends computer and it was dead and I also tried numerous power supplies on my motherboard and it was dead alos. So I had the power supply and motherboard RMA'd and got it put back together today and I am still having the same problems!!!!@ !
I hooked up the CPU, ram, and video cards just to see if it would start up; nope, I hear a crackling noise coming from the brand new powersupply, but the fans start spinning on the powersupply but nothing else. What else could be wrong, could my CPU be dead??? I only hear the crackling noise when I have the 12V connector plugged into the motherboard and this is where the CPU gets power from correct? Could I be in need of a new processor? I tried my ram video in other systems with no issues so its seems the cpu is the only thing left......@#$%^
SYSTEM SPECS:
MSI Neo2 Plat.
Enermax 485W +3.3V@32A, +5V@32A, +12V1@18A, +12V2@15A, [email protected], [email protected]
AMD 64 3000+
PDP 512x2 TCCD RAM
ATI 9800pro
2x Western Digital HDD 80gb
NEC DVD-RW
Lite-On CD-RW

I had a similar issue. Shut it down over night. Next morning I removed the HSF to install AS5. When I put it back together, It wouldn't boot. The D-bracket at 4 red LED's, which means "CPU damaged or not installed properly".
So I sent my CPU to AMD for testing, and It wouldn't post for them either so they sent me a new one. RMA'd the MB also. Got the "new" MB/CPU back together and have had no problems since.
What does teh D-bracket hang on?

Chipset voltage adjustment (K8n neo2 plat)

I posted this in overclocking, with no luck. Sorry to be repetitive . . .
Where in the BIOS do I adjust the chipset voltage?

My ram happily does 290 at 2.5-4-3-10. I haven't yet tested how it handles higher timings. But, it seems to perform quite nicely.
What I want to do is 333X7.5 with 5:6 mem divider, just to see how the increased FSB goes. Anyone know if there are hard voltmods (you know with sawter, where you just set your warranty card on fire) for the chipset voltage?
My setup:
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
A64 3000+ 90nm
1 GB OCZ PC3200 EL platinum Rev2
BFG 6800GT OC at 425/[email protected]
Stuff, things, junk, wires, and some random-ass bits of copper glued to all sorts of things. About to break out the mini-heatsinks for every flat, non-conductive thing on my mobo, starting with MosFets, and working up from there.

Boot failure - k8n neo2 plat

Hi, I'm having trouble
Just purchased an MSI k8n neo2 plat mobo with an amd 64 3000+ and finally got her all setup... well minus the geforce 6600 gt arriving tomorrow and I still need to figure out what I'll do as far as memory goes. Ah but I forget myself... the problem at hand is this; I am unable to boot the system and the d-bracket indicates its current status is "Processor initialization..." Then nothing. Blank screen.
LED's btw:
red green
green red
thanks for any help
Sytem specs:
k8n neo2
amd xp 64 3000+
geforce 2 mx
1x mushkin pc2700 256mb (test mem)
60gb maxtor
generic cd-writer
PS is @POWER 430w with:
+3.3v = 28a
+5v = 40a
+12 = 17a

1)I'd go further than shturmovik in your 12v amps requirement you need at least 24a especially with your new graphic card.
see Basic Building Tips - Quote
As this pertains to A64's make sure that you have a power supply that is either approved for use by MSI/AMD or that you have plenty of amps on the 12 volt rail. Typically we have noted many issues based on stability with PSU's being rated at less than 24A on the 12v rail.
Power Consumption: NVIDIA vs. ATI
2)The D-Led Quote
Processor initialization
also covers memory issues as with the 64 the memory controller is on the CPU.
as your 1x mushkin pc2700 256mb (test mem) this rules out any dual channel problems.
which slot is it in.

What is it with the onboard devices on Neo2 Plat.

What is it with the onboard devices on the Neo2 Plat. The sound really really sucks. Bass is like not there at all, other sounds is of LOW quality - Even with the Nforce driver the sound sucks, infact this is the WORST onboard sound I have ever tried.
The wireless module is also a tragic "thing". Keeps reseting ur conection every 15 mins or so (I have 3 computers with wireless, the Neo 2 Plat is the only haveing this problem). When the wireless is working (until the next reset in 15 mins) the Package loss is like 40%???? What is that.
I thought I had a "DOA" MOBO device, GOT ANOTHER ONE. SAME SHITE.
Even tried the Win64 RC edition, guess what, same problems.
If I am wrong about this let me know (find it hard to belive since I have tested 2 Neo2 Plat, with the same problems).

take a look at the new apple wireless keyboard... they use the same layout.

Looking for cheapest ram to go with the k8n neo2 plat

looking for the cheapest compatable 1GB dc kit for the msi k8n neo2 plat
any suggestions

Yea,
I gotta give a shout out for the Corsair Value Select series also. I ran it for years in cheap systems I built for friends without any problems at all. Newegg has it pretty cheap (under $100 bucks).
I think their cheapest starts at 79$ bucks for DDR400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145440
good luck
doggy

K8N Neo2 Plat - Is 1.8 still the best bios?

Just bought new gfx card - Sapphire X1600Pro 256MB AGP - for my K8N Neo2 Plat setup (see sig for the rest).
I was getting 3dmark03 scores of 4400 to start with, then it has upped slowly to just over 6000 thanks to the various BIOS experts setup guides. I haven't found the Shgift F2 menu - is that only in later BIOSes ?
I'm only at BIOS 1.3 due to it's amazing stability with this setup, but now of course, I'm wondering if upping to, say, 1.8, might help improve things further ??
TIA

Hello !
The 1.8 bios is very good unless you are planning to run/update to an X2 dual core , then you will need a newer one for sure.
There is nothing faster and better with 1C , EasyBios 1C and my modded have better default values set in it ,EasyBios
have also better reworked layout (more user friendly) , but if you don't have any problems with your current one I would stick with it .
It's almost the same with my Neo1 system (Ms-7030) , I have this frozen at the 1.5b6 bios - with the Newcastle cpu in it
it actually works worse with the latest BIOS

NVidia Video Driver Causes Immediate freezing upon loading to desktop (K8N Neo2 Plat)...

after many a reinstall, order of loading drivers, i have finally traced my system's problem to the nvidia video drivers. i have no clue what to do. install everything (new nforce drivers, sp2, audio and ethernet drivers, windowsupdate, etc. EVERYTHING except running the nvidia video drivers package and the system does not freeze.
as soon as the video drivers are loaded, restart and once i get to the desktop it freezes. every single time. go into safe mode, remove video drivers, restart and the system doesn't freeze. fast write is disabled. all dram settings at auto. cool and quiet disableed. system specs are:
MSI K8N Neo2 Plat MB (bios is v1.3)
AMD64 3200+ Winchester Core
BFG 6800GT OC AGP Video Card
2*512MB Mushkin Dual Channel Blue Ram (2-3-3-6-1T at 200Mhz)
120GB WD Caviar 7200RPM 8MB Cache IDE HD
NEC ND3520A 16x DVD Burner
CoolerMaster Wave Master Aluminum Case
Coolermaster RS-450-ACLY Power Supply
any ideas?

well i'll be damned. spread spectrum. it was spread spectrum being enabled. there just isn't a more satifying feeling that thinking you figured out what was causing freezes and then finding out it's repeatable!!
spread spectrum on. freeze. reboot. freeze. reboot. freeze. spread spectrum disabled. reboot. no freeze. reboot. no freeze. reboot. no freeze. spread spectrum back on. reboot. freeze. reboot. freeze.
i love it.

Gainward Geforce 6800 Not working with Neo2 plat

Hey, im starting to get really agravated. do any of you have the some problem? When i boot my computer with the New card (6800) it does a continuous beep and i get no vega signal . Computer runs fine with my older Gefore 4 ti 4600. Any1 have similar setup ?
AMD Athlon 64 3500+
Neo2 Plat
psu Asipre 500w (yes i read some other post it has 34amps on 12v rail)
WD Sata 10k Raptor 36gig
Gainward Gefore 6800 128meg
1 gig ram Corsair value select (512x2)

I had that problem occur with me before with my older 9800 pro. Check the molex connector on the video card. Also check the y-power connector that powerst the video card to the psu... chances are theres a short somewhere. When I disconnected the Y-power connector from the video card, it was actually burned. When you get the error, it usually means that there is little or no power feeding your video card. At least in my situation that was the case.

MOVED: Neo2 plat +a64 +ocz Vx divider problem.

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